Indians Alumni wrote:scruffy wrote:My suggestion....If you don't like the Sioux, then don't go there or don't support them..
That is like saying, if you don't like what Bush is doing, don't pay attention to the news!
Great point
Indians Alumni wrote:scruffy wrote:My suggestion....If you don't like the Sioux, then don't go there or don't support them..
That is like saying, if you don't like what Bush is doing, don't pay attention to the news!
Indians Alumni wrote:scruffy wrote:My suggestion....If you don't like the Sioux, then don't go there or don't support them..
That has got to be one of the dummest suggestions I have heard yet. So if I don't like the name and believe strongly that the use of the name Cartoonizes my anciestory I should just turn my cheek? Wow! You can't just jump in with your lame/ignorant suggestions without getting an earful!!
That is like saying, if you don't like what Bush is doing, don't pay attention to the news!
sportsking09 wrote:Indians Alumni wrote:scruffy wrote:My suggestion....If you don't like the Sioux, then don't go there or don't support them..
That has got to be one of the dummest suggestions I have heard yet. So if I don't like the name and believe strongly that the use of the name Cartoonizes my anciestory I should just turn my cheek? Wow! You can't just jump in with your lame/ignorant suggestions without getting an earful!!
That is like saying, if you don't like what Bush is doing, don't pay attention to the news!
Cartoonizes?!?! who cares you dont see caucasians getting in an uproar about the team name and logo of the Mountaineers, and a logo isnt a cartoon, if the sioux logo had a running series on tv of its self making jokes and stuff then it would be a cartoon, but it is just a logo so get over it
Makotifarmguy wrote:Geeze, 18 pages and you haven't solved this issue yet? You guys should have been able to solve most of the world's problems in 18 pages.
I am waiting to hear from the tribes. Is it offensive or do they feel exploited. Has that been answered yet.
If it is deamed offensive, then the name/logo needs to change.
If it is considered exploited, then UND cough some money, scholarships, etc.. up and the name stays.
That is what it boils down to.
Roughrider wrote:sportsking09 wrote:Indians Alumni wrote:scruffy wrote:My suggestion....If you don't like the Sioux, then don't go there or don't support them..
That has got to be one of the dummest suggestions I have heard yet. So if I don't like the name and believe strongly that the use of the name Cartoonizes my anciestory I should just turn my cheek? Wow! You can't just jump in with your lame/ignorant suggestions without getting an earful!!
That is like saying, if you don't like what Bush is doing, don't pay attention to the news!
Cartoonizes?!?! who cares you dont see caucasians getting in an uproar about the team name and logo of the Mountaineers, and a logo isnt a cartoon, if the sioux logo had a running series on tv of its self making jokes and stuff then it would be a cartoon, but it is just a logo so get over it
well put
sportsking09 wrote:Indians Alumni wrote:scruffy wrote:My suggestion....If you don't like the Sioux, then don't go there or don't support them..
That has got to be one of the dummest suggestions I have heard yet. So if I don't like the name and believe strongly that the use of the name Cartoonizes my anciestory I should just turn my cheek? Wow! You can't just jump in with your lame/ignorant suggestions without getting an earful!!
That is like saying, if you don't like what Bush is doing, don't pay attention to the news!
Cartoonizes?!?! who cares you dont see caucasians getting in an uproar about the team name and logo of the Mountaineers, and a logo isnt a cartoon, if the sioux logo had a running series on tv of its self making jokes and stuff then it would be a cartoon, but it is just a logo so get over it
Indians Alumni wrote: Can you check Mountaineer when you are asked about race on a legal documents? So your statement is not valid in your arguement and dismissed!
and UND is doing nothing to try and help themselves. I am sure they will do something the last year of their deferrment.
OldSchool wrote:I don't think that anyone will ever deny that what has happened to native americans over the years was horrible, but these things happened a hundred years ago. I am just wondering at what point the pity party is going to stop or will this arguement continue from the native american people forever. I believe at some point you have to stand up and make your own breaks.
Indians Alumni wrote:OldSchool wrote:I don't think that anyone will ever deny that what has happened to native americans over the years was horrible, but these things happened a hundred years ago. I am just wondering at what point the pity party is going to stop or will this arguement continue from the native american people forever. I believe at some point you have to stand up and make your own breaks.
OldSchool wrote:Indians Alumni wrote:OldSchool wrote:I don't think that anyone will ever deny that what has happened to native americans over the years was horrible, but these things happened a hundred years ago. I am just wondering at what point the pity party is going to stop or will this arguement continue from the native american people forever. I believe at some point you have to stand up and make your own breaks.
Try getting way with saying that about Afro-Americans or Jewish Americans! Tell them that they need to get over it and move on. As a matter of fact, neither of these races where put on reservations and givin a snow balls chance to survive. Your government gave us blankets filled with small pox and spoiled food. If you don't think this substandard of health care goes on, take a walk into our clinics on the reservation. You will not see a regular doctor last more than a couple months. This is all by YOUR federal government and you expect us to trust that you all have our best interests? Don't think so, I was born at night but not last night!
There is no pity party! There is only right and wrong. People are not moscots or logos! They should have their wishes respected and that is that!
I like the part where you state "your government". Isn't it also your government. Think about it for a moment. That is half the problem you still think your getting suppressed over a hundred years later. The opportunities are out there for all native americans, but by in large you all want to live off, as you put it, "our government". Why are the clinics like that and why are we still being forced to provide this, that is my question. Time to start growing up and living like a big boy.
nativegolfer wrote:OldSchool wrote:Indians Alumni wrote:OldSchool wrote:I don't think that anyone will ever deny that what has happened to native americans over the years was horrible, but these things happened a hundred years ago. I am just wondering at what point the pity party is going to stop or will this arguement continue from the native american people forever. I believe at some point you have to stand up and make your own breaks.
Try getting way with saying that about Afro-Americans or Jewish Americans! Tell them that they need to get over it and move on. As a matter of fact, neither of these races where put on reservations and givin a snow balls chance to survive. Your government gave us blankets filled with small pox and spoiled food. If you don't think this substandard of health care goes on, take a walk into our clinics on the reservation. You will not see a regular doctor last more than a couple months. This is all by YOUR federal government and you expect us to trust that you all have our best interests? Don't think so, I was born at night but not last night!
There is no pity party! There is only right and wrong. People are not moscots or logos! They should have their wishes respected and that is that!
I like the part where you state "your government". Isn't it also your government. Think about it for a moment. That is half the problem you still think your getting suppressed over a hundred years later. The opportunities are out there for all native americans, but by in large you all want to live off, as you put it, "our government". Why are the clinics like that and why are we still being forced to provide this, that is my question. Time to start growing up and living like a big boy.
OldSchool wrote:nativegolfer wrote:OldSchool wrote:Indians Alumni wrote:OldSchool wrote:I don't think that anyone will ever deny that what has happened to native americans over the years was horrible, but these things happened a hundred years ago. I am just wondering at what point the pity party is going to stop or will this arguement continue from the native american people forever. I believe at some point you have to stand up and make your own breaks.
Try getting way with saying that about Afro-Americans or Jewish Americans! Tell them that they need to get over it and move on. As a matter of fact, neither of these races where put on reservations and givin a snow balls chance to survive.
sportsking09 wrote:OldSchool wrote:nativegolfer wrote:OldSchool wrote:Indians Alumni wrote:OldSchool wrote:I don't think that anyone will ever deny that what has happened to native americans over the years was horrible, but these things happened a hundred years ago. I am just wondering at what point the pity party is going to stop or will this arguement continue from the native american people forever. I believe at some point you have to stand up and make your own breaks.
Try getting way with saying that about Afro-Americans or Jewish Americans! Tell them that they need to get over it and move on. As a matter of fact, neither of these races where put on reservations and givin a snow balls chance to survive.
a matter of fact jews sufferend only what 50 -60 years ago, african americans about 125-150 years ago, native americans about 200-250 years, im not saying it is alright to critisize native americans, but i am just showing you that jews suffering pretty recent, african americans suffering recent but kinda old, native americans are the oldest suffering out of the three mentioned yet native americans complain the most and want the most out of our government because of something that happened 200-250 years ago. im not saying it wasnt wrong of what the government did, but its been a while and i think its about time we start moving along now
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