justbrowsing wrote:Isn't some of coaching about the way you act? I'm quite certain that in ND 9 man football it isn't 100% about winning. There are very few (if any) 9 man schools in this state that would fire a coach because he isn't winning games if he's teaching his players how to do things the "right" way. I've seen many many sidelines where coaches are composed and controlled throughout games. Those are the coaches who produces kids that go out in public and people think "what nice kids those are." I think there are some fantastic coaches in this state that have terrible career records.
Run With It wrote:wow. i do not agree with people saying magner is a bad coach at all! Yah he has emotion, but i can tell you i have seen WAY worse. And in my opinion, his emotions seem to get his team (in any sport you watch him coach in) more into the game. Sports around here aren't worth anything unless you have emotion, and he shows it. He might yell at you or reffs or what ever, but he gets his point threw. I know he is one of the most inspirational coaches you will meet. He talks alot about pride and playing harder and better for your own good, which is what sports should be about. And who ever says that coaches that yell and what not aren't "preparing" athletes to be good people in the world...then you must be mistaken. I know some of the dp athletes and i can name a few who are very good people and are "ready" for what gets handed to them, and you can't tell me magner wasn't one of the sources for this.
Alot of coaches are way worse out there. Yeah maybe Magner is very into the game, but it must be working or he wouldnt have the respect from the athletes in any sport he coaches, or such a great football team, because it sounds like to me he has turned that dp football team around in the past year.
pakkyzoo wrote:Run With It wrote:wow. i do not agree with people saying magner is a bad coach at all! Yah he has emotion, but i can tell you i have seen WAY worse. And in my opinion, his emotions seem to get his team (in any sport you watch him coach in) more into the game. Sports around here aren't worth anything unless you have emotion, and he shows it. He might yell at you or reffs or what ever, but he gets his point threw. I know he is one of the most inspirational coaches you will meet. He talks alot about pride and playing harder and better for your own good, which is what sports should be about. And who ever says that coaches that yell and what not aren't "preparing" athletes to be good people in the world...then you must be mistaken. I know some of the dp athletes and i can name a few who are very good people and are "ready" for what gets handed to them, and you can't tell me magner wasn't one of the sources for this.
Alot of coaches are way worse out there. Yeah maybe Magner is very into the game, but it must be working or he wouldnt have the respect from the athletes in any sport he coaches, or such a great football team, because it sounds like to me he has turned that dp football team around in the past year.
Thank you....
G wrote:pakkyzoo wrote:Run With It wrote:wow. i do not agree with people saying magner is a bad coach at all! Yah he has emotion, but i can tell you i have seen WAY worse. And in my opinion, his emotions seem to get his team (in any sport you watch him coach in) more into the game. Sports around here aren't worth anything unless you have emotion, and he shows it. He might yell at you or reffs or what ever, but he gets his point threw. I know he is one of the most inspirational coaches you will meet. He talks alot about pride and playing harder and better for your own good, which is what sports should be about. And who ever says that coaches that yell and what not aren't "preparing" athletes to be good people in the world...then you must be mistaken. I know some of the dp athletes and i can name a few who are very good people and are "ready" for what gets handed to them, and you can't tell me magner wasn't one of the sources for this.
Alot of coaches are way worse out there. Yeah maybe Magner is very into the game, but it must be working or he wouldnt have the respect from the athletes in any sport he coaches, or such a great football team, because it sounds like to me he has turned that dp football team around in the past year.
Thank you....
any coach that gets handed athletes like magners had for the past 3-4 years could win so its not like hes doing anything special...and i didnt want to call him down i was just saying that the way he handles some situations just isnt right
GRIDIRON GURU wrote:Those last two replys are the most panzy a$$ed posts I have ever read and I have to check my manhood after reading them.
Brett Favre wrote:How much of the credit it can you give to the coach in the fact of building a winning a program? I was a senior, and playing against Dakota Prairie when they were in the first year of their move to 9 man. They had a ton of seniors in that group, and they had been working their entire careers to get a good team. The one name I can think of, and he was a monster, is Brent Messner. I really think that its a group of seniors realizing a goal, and wanting to have a great season that starts a program in this direction. Had it not been for a senior class like that, getting the excitement for football in DP going. You may not have seen this program develop the way it has.... I think you can say this about many programs in the state. But definetely in this case you have to give more credit to the past players, and take some away from the coach.
That's provided you have any manhood to check.....
Teaching kids values and how to set and achieve goals is panzy-a$$ed? I want to win as bad as anyone, but there is more to sport than just winning a freakin' game.
What kind of neanderthal would you like as a coach?
justbrowsing wrote:I think you're exactly right if you're talking about schools that hire a football coach who's there to coach football, but that's not what gets you hired in the world of ND 9 man. There are two kinds of head coaches in 9 man: the one who was hired as a science/history/whatever teacher and coaches football, and the one who works in the community and coaches the team because no one on staff wanted it. Small towns can't afford to pick and choose their coaches based on finding someone who is "part tactician part blood lust warrior". And anyone who thinks a small town should choose based on that is either ignorant or naive.
Small town football is a whole different social circle than big city or college football, but I don't think your argument is allowing for any middle ground. You're suggesting that character coaches don't care if they win and that coaches who really want to win don't care about character. The best coaches will do everything they can to win a game, but they will do it with tact, composure, and meaning. I use Mike Berg from Grand Forks Central as an example. That man is quite possible the greatest character coach in the state for the past twenty years, but that didn't mean he wasn't obsessed with winning.
Nobody here ever suggested that the coach should teach character instead of the parents, but as a parent, I certainly expect my kids' coaches to reinforce what
I have already taught my kids, and the only thing that you two have proved by your rants, is that we, as parents, still have to be careful about who's "teaching" our kids.
GRIDIRON GURU wrote:That's provided you have any manhood to check.....
Teaching kids values and how to set and achieve goals is panzy-a$$ed? I want to win as bad as anyone, but there is more to sport than just winning a freakin' game.
What kind of neanderthal would you like as a coach?
That's the kind of reply I would expect from a weasel moron like you.
You must not have ever played for a winning team.
You must not have ever played at the next level.
You must not heve ever coached the game.
Because if you did you would know that the most important thing a coach can teach you is to kick the man's butt that lines up across from you.
That is what football is all about.
not some BS feel good make a better citizen crap like you are talking about, thats the parents job, The coaches job is to get the Johnny's and Joe's to be the best players that they can possibly be to win the individual battles which in turn will help you win the game.
If you are not in it to win you might as well stay home and play with your dolls.
Ocho Siete wrote:GRIDIRON GURU wrote:That's provided you have any manhood to check.....
Teaching kids values and how to set and achieve goals is panzy-a$$ed? I want to win as bad as anyone, but there is more to sport than just winning a freakin' game.
What kind of neanderthal would you like as a coach?
That's the kind of reply I would expect from a weasel moron like you.
You must not have ever played for a winning team.
You must not have ever played at the next level.
You must not heve ever coached the game.
Because if you did you would know that the most important thing a coach can teach you is to kick the man's butt that lines up across from you.
That is what football is all about.
not some BS feel good make a better citizen crap like you are talking about, thats the parents job, The coaches job is to get the Johnny's and Joe's to be the best players that they can possibly be to win the individual battles which in turn will help you win the game.
If you are not in it to win you might as well stay home and play with your dolls.
You really struggle at understanding what people are saying. Of course the players are in it to win it, that's why they sign up for the team. That doesn't mean they won't learn a thing or two about being a man while they're on the team. Unless you're completely new to the concept of football TEAM (I will assume you are), then you would know the whole TEAM aspect will build your character, whether you want it or not. Watch any sports movie, watch any football championship tribute video, and they feed you the same thing: Building a bond between fellow man, and learning character, even in the pro level they learn character.
Coaches teach TEAM, and TEAM build CHARACTER, whether you like it or not. The best coaches are the coaches that understand how to best utilize their TEAM, and thus...I'll let you figure out the rest.
plantefan wrote:I know its his last year this year but Randy Vigen from CV has to be mentioned.
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