hoop_fan1 wrote:why do some keep mentioning that ms. knife left belcourt for a certain reason, but then fails to say what the reason is? I think if you act like you know the reason for her transferring, then you should just say it.
baseball wrote:just wondering....but how come every topic you start is jsut an invitation to argue with you?? you even put it in the title, stuff like "lets hear yoru arguement"....
cdub1 wrote:baseball wrote:just wondering....but how come every topic you start is jsut an invitation to argue with you?? you even put it in the title, stuff like "lets hear yoru arguement"....
i like to argue most of all but mostly this one i would have left alone but they just moved the argument to a different topic after it got locked and i was being challenged and im not going to back down on a difference of opinion
ndfan wrote:So what are you trying to argue here with recruiting?
ndfan wrote:So what are you trying to argue here with recruiting?
i am not going to start a new argument be we had one going in the topic knife to bottineau so i thought we would continue it here instead of invading another topic
hoop_fan1 wrote:why do some keep mentioning that ms. knife left belcourt for a certain reason, but then fails to say what the reason is? I think if you act like you know the reason for her transferring, then you should just say it.
fbinnd wrote:CDUB believes that kids transfer so they can get more attention for college.
The problem here is that cdub tried to explain that Shaunna Knife could expect to get better attention by transferring to Bottineau from Belcourt, since Bottineau would be a winning team, and Belcourt would not.
Then, someone mentioned that there were "other reasons" for the move, and cdub quickly embraced that, so he wouldn't be beaten like a rented mule over his comments on Knife.
Facts are that cdub claimed that Knife would get more attention from college coaches by transferring to Bottineau and getting some wins. That's crap. Knife would get more attention by staying in Belcourt and playing class A schools in the WDA. CDUB claims that Knife's 20 points and 10 rebounds will look better on a winning team that appears to have more balance. He completely missed the fact that Knife's 20 points and 10 boards will be much more impressive if he is on a team playing Mandan, Century, Bismarck High, and so on.
In other words, cdub started a new thread, but he failed to bring the last thread with him so we can show his misstep. Can kids transfer to get more attention? Sure, but that transfer would be from a small B to a large B or a B to an A, in each case, the media attention naturally increases. This particular transfer we are discussing, Knife from Belcourt to Bottineau, has no potential to get Knife any additional attention from coaches. This thread is nothing more than CDUB running from an argument he has lost. So he has tried to change the context by starting over.
CDUB, you're not getting off the hook that easily.
fbinnd wrote:CDUB believes that kids transfer so they can get more attention for college.
The problem here is that cdub tried to explain that Shaunna Knife could expect to get better attention by transferring to Bottineau from Belcourt, since Bottineau would be a winning team, and Belcourt would not.
Then, someone mentioned that there were "other reasons" for the move, and cdub quickly embraced that, so he wouldn't be beaten like a rented mule over his comments on Knife.
Facts are that cdub claimed that Knife would get more attention from college coaches by transferring to Bottineau and getting some wins. That's crap. Knife would get more attention by staying in Belcourt and playing class A schools in the WDA. CDUB claims that Knife's 20 points and 10 rebounds will look better on a winning team that appears to have more balance. He completely missed the fact that Knife's 20 points and 10 boards will be much more impressive if he is on a team playing Mandan, Century, Bismarck High, and so on.
In other words, cdub started a new thread, but he failed to bring the last thread with him so we can show his misstep. Can kids transfer to get more attention? Sure, but that transfer would be from a small B to a large B or a B to an A, in each case, the media attention naturally increases. This particular transfer we are discussing, Knife from Belcourt to Bottineau, has no potential to get Knife any additional attention from coaches. This thread is nothing more than CDUB running from an argument he has lost. So he has tried to change the context by starting over.
CDUB, you're not getting off the hook that easily.
baller01 wrote:fbinnd wrote:CDUB believes that kids transfer so they can get more attention for college.
The problem here is that cdub tried to explain that Shaunna Knife could expect to get better attention by transferring to Bottineau from Belcourt, since Bottineau would be a winning team, and Belcourt would not.
Then, someone mentioned that there were "other reasons" for the move, and cdub quickly embraced that, so he wouldn't be beaten like a rented mule over his comments on Knife.
Facts are that cdub claimed that Knife would get more attention from college coaches by transferring to Bottineau and getting some wins. That's crap. Knife would get more attention by staying in Belcourt and playing class A schools in the WDA. CDUB claims that Knife's 20 points and 10 rebounds will look better on a winning team that appears to have more balance. He completely missed the fact that Knife's 20 points and 10 boards will be much more impressive if he is on a team playing Mandan, Century, Bismarck High, and so on.
In other words, cdub started a new thread, but he failed to bring the last thread with him so we can show his misstep. Can kids transfer to get more attention? Sure, but that transfer would be from a small B to a large B or a B to an A, in each case, the media attention naturally increases. This particular transfer we are discussing, Knife from Belcourt to Bottineau, has no potential to get Knife any additional attention from coaches. This thread is nothing more than CDUB running from an argument he has lost. So he has tried to change the context by starting over.
CDUB, you're not getting off the hook that easily.
People do transfer schools sometimes to get more attention. Mr. Me Too who has very close ties to the Knife family says it was for other reasons. The fact of that matter is is that Bottineau is the most recognizable school when it comes to girls basketball and personally, the last two years, I'd take Bottineau against any class A school except Mandan. Bottineau is a better girls team then Belcourt. They just happen to be a smaller school.
fbinnd wrote:Whatever the deal with Knife, this thread, and my post in it, is about transferring for attention purposes. Perhaps I can clarify my position with a list about what I'm thinking:
1. Knife did not transfer to get attention from college coaches. This would appear to have been confirmed by Me Too.
2. CDUB suggested early that this transfer would lead to more college attention on Knife. It will not.
3. Kids that are good enough to play at the DI level do not need to play anywhere but where they play. DI coaches will find them.
4. If a person were to transfer for attention purposes, a transfer from Belcourt to Bottineau would not be the right direction.
I don't care if Knife transferred because Bottineau's uniforms are prettier. It was not to get attention from college coaches, there will be no added attention, and CDUB was flat out wrong. Baller bailed him out, albeit unintentionally, by closing the original thread and allowing CDUB to start a new one with no background info.
fbinnd wrote:CDUB believes that kids transfer so they can get more attention for college.
The problem here is that cdub tried to explain that Shaunna Knife could expect to get better attention by transferring to Bottineau from Belcourt, since Bottineau would be a winning team, and Belcourt would not.
Then, someone mentioned that there were "other reasons" for the move, and cdub quickly embraced that, so he wouldn't be beaten like a rented mule over his comments on Knife.
Facts are that cdub claimed that Knife would get more attention from college coaches by transferring to Bottineau and getting some wins. That's crap. Knife would get more attention by staying in Belcourt and playing class A schools in the WDA. CDUB claims that Knife's 20 points and 10 rebounds will look better on a winning team that appears to have more balance. He completely missed the fact that Knife's 20 points and 10 boards will be much more impressive if he is on a team playing Mandan, Century, Bismarck High, and so on.
In other words, cdub started a new thread, but he failed to bring the last thread with him so we can show his misstep. Can kids transfer to get more attention? Sure, but that transfer would be from a small B to a large B or a B to an A, in each case, the media attention naturally increases. This particular transfer we are discussing, Knife from Belcourt to Bottineau, has no potential to get Knife any additional attention from coaches. This thread is nothing more than CDUB running from an argument he has lost. So he has tried to change the context by starting over.
CDUB, you're not getting off the hook that easily.
fbinnd wrote:Whatever the deal with Knife, this thread, and my post in it, is about transferring for attention purposes. Perhaps I can clarify my position with a list about what I'm thinking:
1. Knife did not transfer to get attention from college coaches. This would appear to have been confirmed by Me Too.
2. CDUB suggested early that this transfer would lead to more college attention on Knife. It will not.
3. Kids that are good enough to play at the DI level do not need to play anywhere but where they play. DI coaches will find them.
4. If a person were to transfer for attention purposes, a transfer from Belcourt to Bottineau would not be the right direction.
I don't care if Knife transferred because Bottineau's uniforms are prettier. It was not to get attention from college coaches, there will be no added attention, and CDUB was flat out wrong. Baller bailed him out, albeit unintentionally, by closing the original thread and allowing CDUB to start a new one with no background info.
dominationSCS wrote:I can think of a good example would have to be tyler fetting from HMB put up awesome numbers got killed in the lions game I can't really say how hes doing go college personally but a friend from the team told me hes not really doing so hot
fbinnd wrote:Um......yeah, not a parent, of players or otherwise, (that means I don't have kids, Baller01, since you're a bit slower than the rest), and Bottineau is not an opponent that can be seen at any point of the season (that means class A Baller01, since you're a little slower than the rest).
As I said last post, I don't care about why Knife transferred. But I do know that transferring gives you no further appeal to a college than if you stayed put. If your big transfer is to Bottineau to gain college coaches favor, than the only thing big about the situation is your perspective. Pat Summit doesn't care if you play for Blabon, Bowdon, Belfield, Bottineau, or Belcourt. If you're putting up 20 and 10, her next question will be, "Can you do it in the SEC?" If your 20 and 10 is against Dunseith, Westhope-Newberg, and Drake-Anamoose, it will not compare to 20 and 10 against Mandan, Century, and Bismarck High. The defenses are too much better, and the shotclock makes an interesting bridge between high school and college.
I hate to say it, but if you're scoring 20 and 10 in a class B, and you move and do it in a class A, that would get you added attention. Not the other way around. No matter the reason, wins and losses, relationships with coaches, relationships between coaches and other players, whatever, EVEN IF THE TRANSFER IS TOTALLY LEGITIMATE, this will not reflect well with college coaches, as CDUB claimed. It will be break even at best, probably a negative.
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