sodadrinker wrote:all i know is that if tony ironheart doesnt get it from region 4 im gonna individually go around and ask the coaches and if they didnt vote for him im gonna kick them in the groin
baseball wrote:sodadrinker wrote:all i know is that if tony ironheart doesnt get it from region 4 im gonna individually go around and ask the coaches and if they didnt vote for him im gonna kick them in the groin
hahaha same for Bakkum. sure Sizer is good but he's one dimensional, whereas Bakkum can play inside and outside, run the point, play center, or run of picks. He is the best player in the regoin
baseball wrote:sodadrinker wrote:all i know is that if tony ironheart doesnt get it from region 4 im gonna individually go around and ask the coaches and if they didnt vote for him im gonna kick them in the groin
hahaha same for Bakkum. sure Sizer is good but he's one dimensional, whereas Bakkum can play inside and outside, run the point, play center, or run of picks. He is the best player in the regoin
I have confidence that bakkum will win the award, i wanted to know when the coaches vote because i didn't know if the early exit in region would affect him, it shouldn't he's deserving of the award
baseball wrote:sodadrinker wrote:all i know is that if tony ironheart doesnt get it from region 4 im gonna individually go around and ask the coaches and if they didnt vote for him im gonna kick them in the groin
hahaha same for Bakkum. sure Sizer is good but he's one dimensional, whereas Bakkum can play inside and outside, run the point, play center, or run of picks. He is the best player in the regoin
bballer2 wrote:baseball wrote:sodadrinker wrote:all i know is that if tony ironheart doesnt get it from region 4 im gonna individually go around and ask the coaches and if they didnt vote for him im gonna kick them in the groin
hahaha same for Bakkum. sure Sizer is good but he's one dimensional, whereas Bakkum can play inside and outside, run the point, play center, or run of picks. He is the best player in the regoin
i believe sizer is more deserving... hes awesome... there team is winning... he puts up bigger numbers... and hes a better ball player... he is as deserving and probably more...
baller01 wrote:bballer2 wrote:baseball wrote:sodadrinker wrote:all i know is that if tony ironheart doesnt get it from region 4 im gonna individually go around and ask the coaches and if they didnt vote for him im gonna kick them in the groin
hahaha same for Bakkum. sure Sizer is good but he's one dimensional, whereas Bakkum can play inside and outside, run the point, play center, or run of picks. He is the best player in the regoin
i believe sizer is more deserving... hes awesome... there team is winning... he puts up bigger numbers... and hes a better ball player... he is as deserving and probably more...
Is this really even a question??? I mean seriously, Sizer is a TREMENDOUS player no doubt. And if the award went to the player that scored the most points and pulled down the most rebounds, it would definately be Sizer. But senior athlete goes to the best player that is a senior. The difference between these two is Sizer has 4 other guys trying to get him the ball at all times on the floor. Bakkum doesn't have anyone to set him up. He has to create his own shots for himself and create shots for his teammates. All Sizer has to do is stand in the post and wait for the 4 BCN guards to throw him the ball. Both are very deserving of this award though and both are very good players, but IMO, Bakkum is the better player.
And if Steele would have been in the lower bracket, they would be playing on Thursday too. Maybe not for the regional championship, but they for sure wouldn't have been 1 and done. It is unfortunate for Bakkum though, he deserved to play a few more games.
baseball wrote:They are both deserving but agree with me or not here is my arguement for Bakkum.
FG% Bakkum-52.5 Sizer-59.5 (majority of Bakkum's shots are outside 10 feet whereas Sizer takes probably close to 90% inside 5)
Steals Bakkum-3.6 Sizer-1.0 (Bakkum more active on the defensive end)
Ast/TO Bakkum-2.6 Sizer-0.5 (Bakkum better passes and proved the ability to find open teammates, Sizer's 1.4 APG doesnt impress me so much for a Sr of the year)
FT% Bakkum-80.0% Sizer-64.6%
Last point, who would you rather have to ball in his hands the closing seconds a guy who can create for himself (Bakkum) or a nervous freshman gaurd with the goal to get it to the go to guy (Sizer). I jsut feel Sizer lacks alot of the things other then scoring and rebounding that makes for a great ball player. good yes, great is a stretch.
Sizer as the edge in the socring and rebounding but Bakkum as the edge in EVERY other category. making him the better player and the best in the region
ndbbfan wrote:baseball wrote:They are both deserving but agree with me or not here is my arguement for Bakkum.
FG% Bakkum-52.5 Sizer-59.5 (majority of Bakkum's shots are outside 10 feet whereas Sizer takes probably close to 90% inside 5)
Steals Bakkum-3.6 Sizer-1.0 (Bakkum more active on the defensive end)
Ast/TO Bakkum-2.6 Sizer-0.5 (Bakkum better passes and proved the ability to find open teammates, Sizer's 1.4 APG doesnt impress me so much for a Sr of the year)
FT% Bakkum-80.0% Sizer-64.6%
Last point, who would you rather have to ball in his hands the closing seconds a guy who can create for himself (Bakkum) or a nervous freshman gaurd with the goal to get it to the go to guy (Sizer). I jsut feel Sizer lacks alot of the things other then scoring and rebounding that makes for a great ball player. good yes, great is a stretch.
Sizer as the edge in the socring and rebounding but Bakkum as the edge in EVERY other category. making him the better player and the best in the region
While stats are important, they are not the only thing considered when making this choice. The coaches look at other things as well. Sizer is a monster in the paint, but have seen him hit some very nice jumpers as well. Defensively, he has stepped up to the top level this year IMO. And as for him "lacking alot of things", that is a bit of a "stretch".
jumpshot22 wrote:its kind of funny u didn't put points or rebounds up there were sizer really dominates
Can anyone move and create in the paint too while being triple-teamed? Sizer does, Bakkum doesn't and doesn't have to. Bakkum excels from the perimeter, Sizer in the paint. You have to create for yourself no matter whatever position you are playing.baseball wrote:ndbbfan wrote:baseball wrote:They are both deserving but agree with me or not here is my arguement for Bakkum.
FG% Bakkum-52.5 Sizer-59.5 (majority of Bakkum's shots are outside 10 feet whereas Sizer takes probably close to 90% inside 5)
Steals Bakkum-3.6 Sizer-1.0 (Bakkum more active on the defensive end)
Ast/TO Bakkum-2.6 Sizer-0.5 (Bakkum better passes and proved the ability to find open teammates, Sizer's 1.4 APG doesnt impress me so much for a Sr of the year)
FT% Bakkum-80.0% Sizer-64.6%
Last point, who would you rather have to ball in his hands the closing seconds a guy who can create for himself (Bakkum) or a nervous freshman gaurd with the goal to get it to the go to guy (Sizer). I jsut feel Sizer lacks alot of the things other then scoring and rebounding that makes for a great ball player. good yes, great is a stretch.
Sizer as the edge in the socring and rebounding but Bakkum as the edge in EVERY other category. making him the better player and the best in the region
While stats are important, they are not the only thing considered when making this choice. The coaches look at other things as well. Sizer is a monster in the paint, but have seen him hit some very nice jumpers as well. Defensively, he has stepped up to the top level this year IMO. And as for him "lacking alot of things", that is a bit of a "stretch".
1 steal a game and 1 block a game......wow i hate to even imagine the extraordinary numbers he had last year........
and as for these "very nice jumpers", i didnt say he couldnt knock them down. but my question is does he do it while driving from the wing and pull up or does he catch a pass and square up?? anyone can catch and shoot a 15 footer, the thing that seperates people is the ability to create for themselves and knock the 15 footer
baseball wrote:The reason Bakkum doesnt manuver to get a layup while triple teamed in the paint is because he has something Sizer doesnt.....a PASS. and to say he cant do it is false, since ive seen it done numerous times. ill agree Sizer excels inside and Bakkum outside. but another differance is that Bakkum HAS THE ABILITY to play inside, i dont belive Sizer has to ability to play every position like Bakkum does.
Best post -Sizer, Best PLAYER-Bakkum
ndbbfan wrote:baseball wrote:The reason Bakkum doesnt manuver to get a layup while triple teamed in the paint is because he has something Sizer doesnt.....a PASS. and to say he cant do it is false, since ive seen it done numerous times. ill agree Sizer excels inside and Bakkum outside. but another differance is that Bakkum HAS THE ABILITY to play inside, i dont belive Sizer has to ability to play every position like Bakkum does.
Best post -Sizer, Best PLAYER-Bakkum
What makes you think Sizer doesn't "have the ability" to play the perimeter? Again, you are putting the importance of one position above the other. Both are important for team success. Whatever happens, congrats to both players on their great senior years.
baseball wrote:ndbbfan wrote:baseball wrote:The reason Bakkum doesnt manuver to get a layup while triple teamed in the paint is because he has something Sizer doesnt.....a PASS. and to say he cant do it is false, since ive seen it done numerous times. ill agree Sizer excels inside and Bakkum outside. but another differance is that Bakkum HAS THE ABILITY to play inside, i dont belive Sizer has to ability to play every position like Bakkum does.
Best post -Sizer, Best PLAYER-Bakkum
What makes you think Sizer doesn't "have the ability" to play the perimeter? Again, you are putting the importance of one position above the other. Both are important for team success. Whatever happens, congrats to both players on their great senior years.
I didnt say one position was more important then the other, i jsut said Bakkum can play more then one position. the award is senior player of the year.....they only give one, and IMO Bakkum is the best player in the region. if they gave one for every position no doubt Sizer would get one of the five, but they only give out 1 and if the coaches look at more then just points and rebounds they will see Bakkum is better. I wont complain if Sizer gets it, hes a great player, i just think bakkum is better so i will congratulate whoever wins
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