heimer wrote:They won't, and it's not like they got the short end last time. Langdon did.
Know something before you spew.
Also, on the Mandaree vs Powers Lake thing, I'm sure either will represent their region quite well. I thought i saw on Twitter that Mandaree won in OT, thus the confusion.
Can't wait to see Beulah, Ryan, and Shiloh in the same half so we can't have an all-bigs or all-privates final. Just gotta make sure we don't spark that conversation again.
That's what you're hearing in the office right now, I'm sure........
packers21 wrote:heimer wrote:They won't, and it's not like they got the short end last time. Langdon did.
Know something before you spew.
Also, on the Mandaree vs Powers Lake thing, I'm sure either will represent their region quite well. I thought i saw on Twitter that Mandaree won in OT, thus the confusion.
Can't wait to see Beulah, Ryan, and Shiloh in the same half so we can't have an all-bigs or all-privates final. Just gotta make sure we don't spark that conversation again.
That's what you're hearing in the office right now, I'm sure........
I spew all I want, theres not a person that comes on here and spews more and knows less than you.
heimer wrote:packers21 wrote:heimer wrote:They won't, and it's not like they got the short end last time. Langdon did.
Know something before you spew.
Also, on the Mandaree vs Powers Lake thing, I'm sure either will represent their region quite well. I thought i saw on Twitter that Mandaree won in OT, thus the confusion.
Can't wait to see Beulah, Ryan, and Shiloh in the same half so we can't have an all-bigs or all-privates final. Just gotta make sure we don't spark that conversation again.
That's what you're hearing in the office right now, I'm sure........
I spew all I want, theres not a person that comes on here and spews more and knows less than you.
You didn't even know who got hosed in the girls B, so there's that.
The spew part, you're probably right. The knowledge part, I'll go up against you anytime.
Have a nice day!
heimer wrote:I cried because it should have been a title game, not a semi-final.
Just to be clear, Langdon was the team that got screwed, not Thompson.
Langdon deserved to be playing at night.
Oh, and there was collusion.
And Kindred not being seeded was a complete miss. Furthermore, the QRF formula is always up for debate. Reference the Minnesota preps threads that constantly ask for answers, and do not get them.
Fletcher wrote:I think we've all watched enough BB to know that crazy things happen at tournaments. That's part of why we love playoff basketball.
HOWEVER, when you seed 5 teams for an 8 team tournament and not one of those top 5 teams makes the championship game....I think it's safe to say there was a complete whiff on your seeding and the process should probably be re-examined.
It also opens the door for these kinds of conspiracy theories and talk of collusion. Not saying that's what happened but that's the result when you use a flawed system.
Fletcher wrote:I think we've all watched enough BB to know that crazy things happen at tournaments. That's part of why we love playoff basketball.
HOWEVER, when you seed 5 teams for an 8 team tournament and not one of those top 5 teams makes the championship game....I think it's safe to say there was a complete whiff on your seeding and the process should probably be re-examined.
It also opens the door for these kinds of conspiracy theories and talk of collusion. Not saying that's what happened but that's the result when you use a flawed system.
Thundersnow wrote:Fletcher wrote:I think we've all watched enough BB to know that crazy things happen at tournaments. That's part of why we love playoff basketball.
HOWEVER, when you seed 5 teams for an 8 team tournament and not one of those top 5 teams makes the championship game....I think it's safe to say there was a complete whiff on your seeding and the process should probably be re-examined.
It also opens the door for these kinds of conspiracy theories and talk of collusion. Not saying that's what happened but that's the result when you use a flawed system.
"Flawed system"? By this logic, the men's NCAA basketball tournament uses a flawed system. To me, seeding doesn't automatically result in the 2 best teams playing for the championship every year. I could be wrong, but I thought when seeding was first introduced to the State B tournaments the main goal was to not have the 2 best teams playing in the first round. This happened multiple times in both the boys and girls tournaments back when we had predetermined region vs. region matchups. Is the current plan perfect? No. Did it prevent the 2 best teams from playing on Thursday? Yes. Could you imagine the uproar if Region 1 and 2 were predetermined to play against each other in the 2:45 game on Thursday?
Fletcher wrote:Also, the NCAA tournament has a selection committee that seeds the teams. It doesn't have the coaches that are in the tournament vote on where other teams should be seeded.
So not a valid analogy.
Run4Fun2009 wrote:I’ve stated a committee would be a smart option and use their votes to seeding before. Less chance for heimer’s favorite word right now, ‘collusion’ (don’t think it happened...R8 doesn’t know R1 and vice versa...voting is tough when you don’t know the teams; becomes a guess and that’s not fair to anyone)
Thundersnow wrote:Upsets are a part of sports, especially tournaments. The NCAA tournament uses a selection committee whose sole job is to rank all the teams and, by your logic, get the 4 best teams to the Final 4. But after the bracket is set, that's when the actual tournament begins. Some years you get #11 seeds like Loyola-Chicago, VCU and George Mason in the Final 4. One year VCU played an 8 or 9 seed Butler in the Final 4. By having a 9 vs. 11 in the Final Four, the selection committee "completely whiffed" using your terminology.
I'm glad you're not advocating for us to go back to predetermined region vs. region matchups. But I have a feeling you and many other people would be outraged by whatever seeding a ND Class B selection committee would come out with. I'd be fine with there being a selection committee, but it would not end the complaining, conspiracy theories, and collusion allegations
Flip wrote:Run4Fun2009 wrote:I’ve stated a committee would be a smart option and use their votes to seeding before. Less chance for heimer’s favorite word right now, ‘collusion’ (don’t think it happened...R8 doesn’t know R1 and vice versa...voting is tough when you don’t know the teams; becomes a guess and that’s not fair to anyone)
Unless you left it up to the media do you think they could find people to do this?
Run4Fun2009 wrote:Flip wrote:Run4Fun2009 wrote:I’ve stated a committee would be a smart option and use their votes to seeding before. Less chance for heimer’s favorite word right now, ‘collusion’ (don’t think it happened...R8 doesn’t know R1 and vice versa...voting is tough when you don’t know the teams; becomes a guess and that’s not fair to anyone)
Unless you left it up to the media do you think they could find people to do this?
I'm sure you could find 4-6 people to do this...media or not; unbiased basketball followers. In theory, I think it could be better then the coaches voting.
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