Hoot12 wrote:...private schools are small but they have excellent recruiters who find job for parents with athletic kids.
Hoot12 wrote: Sure we can discuss school numbers and say that the private schools are small but they have excellent recruiters who find job for parents with athletic kids.
heimer wrote:d_fense wrote:heimer wrote:Bismarck is a great Class B town.
And Valley City.
Yeah, cause there is an apples to apples comparison.
Someone on Facebook told me that Ryan won 3 straight up to this year. I haven't followed it, but if true, that's a swift kick in the nuts to girls basketball.
Ready to solve this problem? This years tourney featured two privates, two former Class A schools, one that should be Class A now, one that should definitely be middle division, a 6'5" transfer from a Class A, and FCT.
But keep your two class system. Did you see the attendance? Yep, this is working well.
Hoot12 wrote:I am with Heimer on this one:
Compare the percentage of private school that make it to the state tournament vs. public schools.
If you think that there is going to be 1 or 2 or 3 private school in the tournament each year you fooling your self so why not just give them their own class.
Sure we can discuss school numbers and say that the private schools are small but they have excellent recruiters who find job for parents with athletic kids.
balla45 wrote:heimer wrote:I'm finally with you on the locales. Fargo and Grand Forks residents have put their eggs in the collegiate basket. The tournaments no longer excite them. It's only the Chamber of Commerces that want these events for the spending that goes on during the tournaments. Bismarck and Minot support them better.
As far as the classes, I'm not ready to shove all of the privates into what is currently A. That's an easy fix without any forethought. There is enough of a critical mass to construct a middle division with those schools involved, even if you borrowed from the currrent Class A level to construct it.
In a 16-16, rest scenario, with all privates that have over 100 kids "A", you'd have good, highly-competitive basketball, and that's what this should be about.
AA East:
Fargo North
Fargo South
Fargo Davies
West Fargo Sheyenne
West Fargo
Grand Forks Red River
Grand Forks Central
Jamestown
AA West:
Bismarck
Bismarck Century
Bismarck Legacy
Mandan
Dickinson
Williston
Minot
Belcourt
A East:
Wahpeton
Fargo Shanley
Valley City
Central Cass
Fargo Oak Grove
Grafton
Devils Lake
Kindred
A West:
Bismarck St Marys
Minot Ryan
Dickinson Trinity
Watford City
Hazen
Beulah
Bottineau
Carrington
Or, like I said before, leave all the current Class "A"s up and take four more to make 16 in the new "A". Either way, there's a solid class there.
We can't try this for two years? Just for two years?
I will confidently call myself one of the biggest basketball fans in ND. I like this plan a lot. Throwing all the private schools in a top class would be a bad move right now I think. With the facilities that Shiloh has, I think they will remain athletically dominant (also my pick to wins boys) for years and years in the current format. The Ryan thing was once in a generation. Shiloh will consistently be able to get the kids who can't make it in BPS that want to transfer so they can play, and they have enough talent in the SCS system where adding 1-2 players takes them from good to great. I am a Shiloh fan, but there are advantages when you compare them to a Flasher for example, who will lose a player for a job in Bismarck, a Shiloh will gain a player for a job in Bismarck.
heimer wrote:I'm finally with you on the locales. Fargo and Grand Forks residents have put their eggs in the collegiate basket. The tournaments no longer excite them. It's only the Chamber of Commerces that want these events for the spending that goes on during the tournaments. Bismarck and Minot support them better.
As far as the classes, I'm not ready to shove all of the privates into what is currently A. That's an easy fix without any forethought. There is enough of a critical mass to construct a middle division with those schools involved, even if you borrowed from the currrent Class A level to construct it.
In a 16-16, rest scenario, with all privates that have over 100 kids "A", you'd have good, highly-competitive basketball, and that's what this should be about.
AA East:
Fargo North
Fargo South
Fargo Davies
West Fargo Sheyenne
West Fargo
Grand Forks Red River
Grand Forks Central
Jamestown
AA West:
Bismarck
Bismarck Century
Bismarck Legacy
Mandan
Dickinson
Williston
Minot
Belcourt
A East:
Wahpeton
Fargo Shanley
Valley City
Central Cass
Fargo Oak Grove
Grafton
Devils Lake
Kindred
A West:
Bismarck St Marys
Minot Ryan
Dickinson Trinity
Watford City
Hazen
Beulah
Bottineau
Rugby
Or, like I said before, leave all the current Class "A"s up and take four more to make 16 in the new "A". Either way, there's a solid class there.
We can't try this for two years? Just for two years?
triplebbb wrote:Watford City's enrollment is projected to grow 10% per year for the next 10 years (as per demographic study). That will put WC in Class A in 2018-19. Enrollment grows but so far the number of athletes does not grow. The girls bball team had 2 players on it that have not been here most of their life (only 1 in the playing rotation). It will be hard if not impossible to compete in Class A for most sports in most years. This year's 2nd in state girls team could have "maybe" been in the top 4 in the WDA but that is a huge "maybe". I have been against a 3 class system my whole life but things are definitely different and selfishly now a middle class seems more appropriate. Self-serving?
Warroad has done this for many years in hockey. Don't think it doesn't happen.BasketballJunkie wrote:Hoot12 wrote: Sure we can discuss school numbers and say that the private schools are small but they have excellent recruiters who find job for parents with athletic kids.
Well this is possibly the most ridiculous thing I have read all day.
triplebbb wrote:Since when did the WC athletic dept start heading up a 3 class system? That's how rumors get started. That is why in my previous post I said it was self serving for me to support a 3 class system. Don't make comments before you know what your talking about. Wouldn't anyone sort of be worried about moving to Class A? Central Cass, Stanley, Grafton, any of the big B's?
The Schwab wrote:my feelings on the 3 class system vs 2 class system can be summed up by this. It is much easier for a school of 250 to be competitive year in and year out against a school of 1250 then it is for a school of 50 against a school of 250
madseason wrote:Warroad has done this for many years in hockey. Don't think it doesn't happen.BasketballJunkie wrote:Hoot12 wrote: Sure we can discuss school numbers and say that the private schools are small but they have excellent recruiters who find job for parents with athletic kids.
Well this is possibly the most ridiculous thing I have read all day.
Flip wrote:who pays these "recruiters?" I just took a look at Warroad's staff directory and didn't find any recruiters.
Flip wrote:who pays these "recruiters?" I just took a look at Warroad's staff directory and didn't find any recruiters.
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest