d_fense wrote:I don't think so. As a matter of fact, if you watch video of many traveling calls, and slow them down, they are not traveling at all.
Sticks11 wrote:I don't think I've necessarily seen more or less. I think some just look for it a little bit more. Everyone has tendencies, even officials. Some of them call more travels than others. With a lot more players doing moves like the euro-step and the hop-then steps, more travels are getting called on those. Let's face it, at real game speed, even if you get a decent look at it, some of these are hard to call.
The Schwab wrote:A lot of travels are called on "Pro-Hops" which most of the time are not travels. I see very few travels called on spin moves, and most of them are actually travels. The one that drives me crazy is when a player catches the ball, then hops to set their feet, then shoot. This is hardly ever called a travel and it is a travel every single time.
packers21 wrote:The Schwab wrote:A lot of travels are called on "Pro-Hops" which most of the time are not travels. I see very few travels called on spin moves, and most of them are actually travels. The one that drives me crazy is when a player catches the ball, then hops to set their feet, then shoot. This is hardly ever called a travel and it is a travel every single time.
Agree 100% on the ProHop and Euros
RedDirtFan wrote:Name the instances where you see this happening.
balla45 wrote:RedDirtFan wrote:Name the instances where you see this happening.
Probably have seen 15+ euro steps incorrectly whistled for traveling violations.
lovwatchingsports wrote:Sounds like a group of people that should put on the stripes and show us how it is done. It's easy to complain sitting in the stands. Everybody is better than the ref. Get out there and show us how it's done!!!
lovwatchingsports wrote:Sounds like a group of people that should put on the stripes and show us how it is done. It's easy to complain sitting in the stands. Everybody is better than the ref. Get out there and show us how it's done!!!
sportsfan25 wrote:Ok, so here's my soapbox. That James Harden video IS a travel, even if they call it a Euro step. I saw SVP say the other night on SportsCenter say the exact same thing about the Euro step, that it was traveling back in his day. I watched that video, Harden picks up the ball with his right foot on the ground and left foot in the air, steps to his left, steps back to his right, takes off from his right and shoots the layup. 3 steps is a travel, or should be in HS. A while back Lebron's "crab dribble" was debated and ultimately deemed not a travel, too. That doesn't mean HS kids should get away with it. The pros get away with a lot that is called a violation (in my opinion correctly) in high school. And I'm not saying anyone is ruining the game, but just because it's not called a travel in the NBA doesn't mean it isn't a travel.
Stepping down from the soapbox onto a shorter cereal box; I completely agree with Schwab about the catch (flat footed)-hop-shoot scenario. It should be a travel every time and is rarely called. The other thing that gets to me is dribbling in general. Any time a players hand goes past vertical and under the ball (or even the bottom half of the ball), that is a travel. Most of the time the refs let it go, unless it happens to aid the player in a move to the basket, then I've seen it called about 50-50. For kids to play correctly, they must be penalized when it counts.
Rant over.
sportsfan25 wrote:Ok, so here's my soapbox. That James Harden video IS a travel, even if they call it a Euro step. I saw SVP say the other night on SportsCenter say the exact same thing about the Euro step, that it was traveling back in his day. I watched that video, Harden picks up the ball with his right foot on the ground and left foot in the air, steps to his left, steps back to his right, takes off from his right and shoots the layup. 3 steps is a travel, or should be in HS. A while back Lebron's "crab dribble" was debated and ultimately deemed not a travel, too. That doesn't mean HS kids should get away with it. The pros get away with a lot that is called a violation (in my opinion correctly) in high school. And I'm not saying anyone is ruining the game, but just because it's not called a travel in the NBA doesn't mean it isn't a travel.
Stepping down from the soapbox onto a shorter cereal box; I completely agree with Schwab about the catch (flat footed)-hop-shoot scenario. It should be a travel every time and is rarely called. The other thing that gets to me is dribbling in general. Any time a players hand goes past vertical and under the ball (or even the bottom half of the ball), that is a travel. Most of the time the refs let it go, unless it happens to aid the player in a move to the basket, then I've seen it called about 50-50. For kids to play correctly, they must be penalized when it counts.
Rant over.
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