Hinsa wrote:Napoleon has 7 kids listed on their roster as RBs or FBs. They must have had someone to put in for Gross. What were they going to do if he got injured?
466 yards IS quite an accomplishment. Good for him. What I disagree with is the ethics of getting 466 yards in a 42-6 blowout.
If we follow this philosphy, then Gion should have stayed in against Wilton-Wing and gotten 600 yards. Instead, Mott-Regent got a comfortable lead, Gion got 200+ yards and 3 scores, and was pulled. It is called compassion for your opponent.
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Isn't that Spurrier's philosophy? That is fine and dandy in the college game, but kids can get hurt (on the losing end) and neighbors from seperated towns can get quite angry and outraged. Perhaps, Coach Benson should have left Gion in and broke the national 9-man record, or perhaps he did the right thing and kept everything in check.
js2125 wrote:I was at the game and here is what I saw. In no way did it seem to be deliberate. First the defense was stacked heavy inside the ends, all gaps were filled with tackles and behind them were 2 to 3 LBs on every play, darn near impossible to run a fullback with any efficience or success. Hense gross getting his carries to the outside edges. Second once he did get by the line there was daylight and many runs became 12-20 yard gains. Another influence was that there was a 30 mile an hour wind blowing straight down the field which made it tough to pass and also allowed ellendale to pin napoleon down inside the 5 on 3 occasions making for three very long drives. You will see that gross did score one touchdown in the 4th but that was the last play of a drive that continued into the fourth quarter and ended on the first play in the 4th quarter, so this was done primarily over 3 quarters. Also, he had no backup that night, he was injured.
So to sum it up, I don't feel it was intentional. you take a look back at napoleons history and they are a run dominated team, 50 plus carries a game is not unusual it just happened this time that it was one player, due to circimstances getting the carries. Look back at the championship game, granted that was 4 quarters and playing a better team, their tailback had 43 carries. I think it just turned out that way and he along with his offensive line had a very good night.
Also, look at other box scores, Other players such as Gion and Kosel are playing and carrying the ball when scores are similar.
Perhaps the touchdown drive that carried over to the 4th quarter WAS Napoleon's second possession of the half. It could have been one of those 8 minute, clock consuming drives. If that's the case, the situation becomes more acceptable in my opinion.
basketballer wrote:Napoleon has 7 kids listed on their roster as RBs or FBs. They must have had someone to put in for Gross. What were they going to do if he got injured?js2125 wrote:Also, he had no backup that night, he was injured.
baller01 wrote:For all of you that are trying to downplay Gross's game. You all are sick. I don't care who you are and how good you may be, you can't down play 466 yards in a game. Sure he had 45 carries, but he gained over 10 yards all game long. Sure you see some guys have 150 yards on 10 carries and people say "Oh he would have had 675 yards If he would've got 45 carries." That is bull. That isn't how sports work. The only thing that matters are the final stats. Gross ran for almost 500 yards. 1,000 yards is a yearly goal for almost all running backs and he got almost half of that in one game. Sure Ellendale isn't a great team, but it isn't like they were out there purposely trying to get him that many yards. He was getting over 10 yards a carry, why would you quit running? He didn't even play the 4th quarter.
If you have ever rushed for more then 466 yards in your life, which I bet 99.9% of the people on this site haven't done, then you can down play his performance. But if you haven't, shut up and give some credit to the most amazing performance by a running back this year.
Hinsa wrote:Baller01, you're missing the point. The point is that he should have never gotten 45 carries in the first place. Leading by 30+ points and still keeping your stud in the game into the 4th quarter is, to use your term, sick, in my opinion. And he DID play in the 4th quarter. An earlier post said he scored his last TD in the 4th quarter.
Hinsa wrote:Nope, not going after Gross at all. 466 yards is a great accomplishment. Just questioning the decision to leave him in the game so late in a blowout. Sportsmanship......
baller01 wrote:Hinsa wrote:Nope, not going after Gross at all. 466 yards is a great accomplishment. Just questioning the decision to leave him in the game so late in a blowout. Sportsmanship......
I played in a game this year where my team was up 28-0 going into the 4th quarter. We dominated the whole game and us starters were pulled with about 9-10 minutes left in the 4th. The team we were playing didn't pull there starters and scored twice on our JV fairly quickly. They then onside kicked it and got the ball back with about 2-3 minutes left. All of us defensive starters had to then rush to put our pads back on and go out and play when we hadn't played in nearly a quarter. There are two parts to it...
baller01 wrote:Hinsa wrote:Nope, not going after Gross at all. 466 yards is a great accomplishment. Just questioning the decision to leave him in the game so late in a blowout. Sportsmanship......
I played in a game this year where my team was up 28-0 going into the 4th quarter. We dominated the whole game and us starters were pulled with about 9-10 minutes left in the 4th. The team we were playing didn't pull there starters and scored twice on our JV fairly quickly. They then onside kicked it and got the ball back with about 2-3 minutes left. All of us defensive starters had to then rush to put our pads back on and go out and play when we hadn't played in nearly a quarter. There are two parts to it...
Mr. Utility wrote:Tyler Allery, of dunseith had 477 yards rushing this year in one game against Towner, Granville, upham. I would think that is some sore of record, he is a great athlete. Altho he dominated the game the titants ended up winning the Dragons..
baller01 wrote:For all of you that are trying to downplay Gross's game. You all are sick. I don't care who you are and how good you may be, you can't down play 466 yards in a game. Sure he had 45 carries, but he gained over 10 yards all game long. Sure you see some guys have 150 yards on 10 carries and people say "Oh he would have had 675 yards If he would've got 45 carries." That is bull. That isn't how sports work. The only thing that matters are the final stats. Gross ran for almost 500 yards. 1,000 yards is a yearly goal for almost all running backs and he got almost half of that in one game. Sure Ellendale isn't a great team, but it isn't like they were out there purposely trying to get him that many yards. He was getting over 10 yards a carry, why would you quit running? He didn't even play the 4th quarter.
If you have ever rushed for more then 466 yards in your life, which I bet 99.9% of the people on this site haven't done, then you can down play his performance. But if you haven't, shut up and give some credit to the most amazing performance by a running back this year.
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