WOW..... Sizer averaged 26 points, 13.2 rebounds and 1.1 steals and his team went to statephilshometown wrote:BISMARCK, N.D.
Seven players have been named finalists for North Dakota Mr. Basketball.
The award, to be announced Saturday after the state Class B title game, is given by members of the North Dakota Associated Press Sportscasters and Sportswriters Association.
The finalists are Justin Belohlavek of Mandan, Tate Kick of Dickinson, Brian Qvale of Williston, Jordan Wilhelm of Bismarck, Tony Ironheart of Four Winds, Mark Bakkum of Steele-Dawson and Luke Lorenz of Mayville-Portland-Clifford-Galesburg.
Their numbers, rounded to the nearest half:
Belohlavek averaged 25.5 points, six rebounds and four assists per game.
Kick averaged 22.5 points, 10 rebounds and two steals.
Qvale averaged 20 points, 10.5 rebounds, three blocks and three assists.
Wilhelm averaged 20 points, nine rebounds and two assists.
Ironheart averaged 22.5 points, five rebounds and nine assists.
Bakkum averaged 24 points, nine rebounds and eight assists.
Lorenz averaged 18 points, nine rebounds and two steals.
and sizer's doesntTigger wrote:Don't go picking on Mr. Lorenz just because your guy didn't make the list. Luke's stats are deceiving because his team plays a low scoring style and depends greatly on their defense. Luke is a top defender and 18 ppg is pretty good for that system that produces a lot less points than other teams score. I'm not saying that he can/will win the award, but his name definitely belongs up there.
rumbles wrote:and sizer's doesntTigger wrote:Don't go picking on Mr. Lorenz just because your guy didn't make the list. Luke's stats are deceiving because his team plays a low scoring style and depends greatly on their defense. Luke is a top defender and 18 ppg is pretty good for that system that produces a lot less points than other teams score. I'm not saying that he can/will win the award, but his name definitely belongs up there.
philshometown wrote:BISMARCK, N.D.
Seven players have been named finalists for North Dakota Mr. Basketball.
The award, to be announced Saturday after the state Class B title game, is given by members of the North Dakota Associated Press Sportscasters and Sportswriters Association.
The finalists are Justin Belohlavek of Mandan, Tate Kick of Dickinson, Brian Qvale of Williston, Jordan Wilhelm of Bismarck, Tony Ironheart of Four Winds, Mark Bakkum of Steele-Dawson and Luke Lorenz of Mayville-Portland-Clifford-Galesburg.
Their numbers, rounded to the nearest half:
Belohlavek averaged 25.5 points, six rebounds and four assists per game.
Kick averaged 22.5 points, 10 rebounds and two steals.
Qvale averaged 20 points, 10.5 rebounds, three blocks and three assists.
Wilhelm averaged 20 points, nine rebounds and two assists.
Ironheart averaged 22.5 points, five rebounds and nine assists.
Bakkum averaged 24 points, nine rebounds and eight assists.
Lorenz averaged 18 points, nine rebounds and two steals.
Tigger wrote:you mention the media as a disadvantage for class b players....how about 4 extra minutes and a shot clock to beef up stats?
SCC wrote:cdub1 wrote:Tigger wrote:you mention the media as a disadvantage for class b players....how about 4 extra minutes and a shot clock to beef up stats?
look at the advantage for b players then playing about 10 games against crappy teams playing with bad players where you can shoot whenever you want and also for lorenz i bet he scores a higher percentage of his team's points than ironheart so that isnt a good argument i would say lorenz gets about 40 percent with ironheart around 25
Four Winds scores a lot more points than MPCG. It's hard to make a comparison. Two completely different styles of play...
ndlionsfan wrote:Just because he didn't have a stellar first game of this tourney doesn't mean you can count him out for what he's done all year and for his career. He did carry FW to the state tourney. He absolutely dominated the districts and regions and carried them on his back.
rumbles wrote:WOW..... Sizer averaged 26 points, 13.2 rebounds and 1.1 steals and his team went to statephilshometown wrote:BISMARCK, N.D.
Seven players have been named finalists for North Dakota Mr. Basketball.
The award, to be announced Saturday after the state Class B title game, is given by members of the North Dakota Associated Press Sportscasters and Sportswriters Association.
The finalists are Justin Belohlavek of Mandan, Tate Kick of Dickinson, Brian Qvale of Williston, Jordan Wilhelm of Bismarck, Tony Ironheart of Four Winds, Mark Bakkum of Steele-Dawson and Luke Lorenz of Mayville-Portland-Clifford-Galesburg.
Their numbers, rounded to the nearest half:
Belohlavek averaged 25.5 points, six rebounds and four assists per game.
Kick averaged 22.5 points, 10 rebounds and two steals.
Qvale averaged 20 points, 10.5 rebounds, three blocks and three assists.
Wilhelm averaged 20 points, nine rebounds and two assists.
Ironheart averaged 22.5 points, five rebounds and nine assists.
Bakkum averaged 24 points, nine rebounds and eight assists.
Lorenz averaged 18 points, nine rebounds and two steals.
and was 2nd in rebounds in the state none of the other class b players nominated averaged a double-doublebisonslayer wrote:Sizer single handily took a cinderella team to the state B, averaged nearly 27 points. Can't even break into the top 7 in the state????? What else does a kid have to do?
SCC wrote:jetblue12 wrote:rumbles wrote:WOW..... Sizer averaged 26 points, 13.2 rebounds and 1.1 steals and his team went to statephilshometown wrote:BISMARCK, N.D.
Seven players have been named finalists for North Dakota Mr. Basketball.
The award, to be announced Saturday after the state Class B title game, is given by members of the North Dakota Associated Press Sportscasters and Sportswriters Association.
The finalists are Justin Belohlavek of Mandan, Tate Kick of Dickinson, Brian Qvale of Williston, Jordan Wilhelm of Bismarck, Tony Ironheart of Four Winds, Mark Bakkum of Steele-Dawson and Luke Lorenz of Mayville-Portland-Clifford-Galesburg.
Their numbers, rounded to the nearest half:
Belohlavek averaged 25.5 points, six rebounds and four assists per game.
Kick averaged 22.5 points, 10 rebounds and two steals.
Qvale averaged 20 points, 10.5 rebounds, three blocks and three assists.
Wilhelm averaged 20 points, nine rebounds and two assists.
Ironheart averaged 22.5 points, five rebounds and nine assists.
Bakkum averaged 24 points, nine rebounds and eight assists.
Lorenz averaged 18 points, nine rebounds and two steals.
sadly lorenz would of been nominated if he averaged 10pts, 4reb , and 1 st
An interesting thought, but I strongly disagree.
cdub1 wrote:Tigger wrote:you mention the media as a disadvantage for class b players....how about 4 extra minutes and a shot clock to beef up stats?
look at the advantage for b players then playing about 10 games against crappy teams playing with bad players where you can shoot whenever you want and also for lorenz i bet he scores a higher percentage of his team's points than ironheart so that isnt a good argument i would say lorenz gets about 40 percent with ironheart around 25
no kiddingTigger wrote:cdub1 wrote:Tigger wrote:you mention the media as a disadvantage for class b players....how about 4 extra minutes and a shot clock to beef up stats?
look at the advantage for b players then playing about 10 games against crappy teams playing with bad players where you can shoot whenever you want and also for lorenz i bet he scores a higher percentage of his team's points than ironheart so that isnt a good argument i would say lorenz gets about 40 percent with ironheart around 25
Most teams don't get to play 10 games against crappy competition, and you can't tell me that there aren't any easy opponents in Class A. Plus, almost half the teams in the state get to the state A tournament, and I can't tell you how many times I've heard "well, he didn't go to state" used against a Class B player.
baller01 wrote:rumbles wrote:and sizer's doesntTigger wrote:Don't go picking on Mr. Lorenz just because your guy didn't make the list. Luke's stats are deceiving because his team plays a low scoring style and depends greatly on their defense. Luke is a top defender and 18 ppg is pretty good for that system that produces a lot less points than other teams score. I'm not saying that he can/will win the awnard, but his name definitely belongs up there.
I don't think the question is does Sizer belong or not, I think the question is where to put him? There already 7 canidates and that already is a lot. Look at last year with Jeff Smith. He averaged 29 pts a game and wasn't a finalists. Sizer is a great player but I think it hurts him playing for BCN. If he played for DT, Shiloh, Linton, Minot Ryan, Hazen someplace like that where there is a tradition there and media coverage, I think he would be up for it.
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