ndlionsfan wrote:scruffy wrote:Today it's very hard to find any region in class "B" who has more then four or five decent teams in it. Imagine the overall quality of play in a third class. Please, I'm not putting anyone down... but it wouldn't be pretty..
It would probably be ugly for the first few years, but you never know when some of these teams that haven't won for ages start having some success, the younger kids could get more excited and work on their game and more kids stick with it in the future it could improve by leaps and bounds. That is, if the NDHSAA does something to get more teams on the court by breaking up some co-ops and such. I know its a stretch, but its pretty ignorant for people to say it will only make things worse or it will never work without actually trying to change some things.
winner-within wrote:ndlionsfan wrote:scruffy wrote:Today it's very hard to find any region in class "B" who has more then four or five decent teams in it. Imagine the overall quality of play in a third class. Please, I'm not putting anyone down... but it wouldn't be pretty..
It would probably be ugly for the first few years, but you never know when some of these teams that haven't won for ages start having some success, the younger kids could get more excited and work on their game and more kids stick with it in the future it could improve by leaps and bounds. That is, if the NDHSAA does something to get more teams on the court by breaking up some co-ops and such. I know its a stretch, but its pretty ignorant for people to say it will only make things worse or it will never work without actually trying to change some things.
"not accepting change doesnt bring back the past, it prevents the future" 1 Class would also be ugly for the first few years but in the mean time if everybody was speeding school consolidations and closing down the old worn out facilities we would be way further ahead in ten years than experamenting with three classes and seeing it fail....the Players of today dont wanna be bored with the stories of yesteryear they wanna be known for what Class B is today and Class B today has some of the best players playing in it that ever played in it,, what it dont have is all the schools that used to particapate (and it never will).
classB4ever wrote:winner-within wrote:ndlionsfan wrote:scruffy wrote:Today it's very hard to find any region in class "B" who has more then four or five decent teams in it. Imagine the overall quality of play in a third class. Please, I'm not putting anyone down... but it wouldn't be pretty..
It would probably be ugly for the first few years, but you never know when some of these teams that haven't won for ages start having some success, the younger kids could get more excited and work on their game and more kids stick with it in the future it could improve by leaps and bounds. That is, if the NDHSAA does something to get more teams on the court by breaking up some co-ops and such. I know its a stretch, but its pretty ignorant for people to say it will only make things worse or it will never work without actually trying to change some things.
"not accepting change doesnt bring back the past, it prevents the future" 1 Class would also be ugly for the first few years but in the mean time if everybody was speeding school consolidations and closing down the old worn out facilities we would be way further ahead in ten years than experamenting with three classes and seeing it fail....the Players of today dont wanna be bored with the stories of yesteryear they wanna be known for what Class B is today and Class B today has some of the best players playing in it that ever played in it,, what it dont have is all the schools that used to particapate (and it never will).
I am not sure what the answer is for basketball in ND. It seems that a lot of plans and ideas will be on the board in the near future. However, "not accepting change doesn't bring back the past, it prevents the future"? It may change the direction things go in the future, but certainly doesn't prevent it.
winner-within wrote:classB4ever wrote:winner-within wrote:ndlionsfan wrote:scruffy wrote:Today it's very hard to find any region in class "B" who has more then four or five decent teams in it. Imagine the overall quality of play in a third class. Please, I'm not putting anyone down... but it wouldn't be pretty..
It would probably be ugly for the first few years, but you never know when some of these teams that haven't won for ages start having some success, the younger kids could get more excited and work on their game and more kids stick with it in the future it could improve by leaps and bounds. That is, if the NDHSAA does something to get more teams on the court by breaking up some co-ops and such. I know its a stretch, but its pretty ignorant for people to say it will only make things worse or it will never work without actually trying to change some things.
"not accepting change doesnt bring back the past, it prevents the future" 1 Class would also be ugly for the first few years but in the mean time if everybody was speeding school consolidations and closing down the old worn out facilities we would be way further ahead in ten years than experamenting with three classes and seeing it fail....the Players of today dont wanna be bored with the stories of yesteryear they wanna be known for what Class B is today and Class B today has some of the best players playing in it that ever played in it,, what it dont have is all the schools that used to particapate (and it never will).
I am not sure what the answer is for basketball in ND. It seems that a lot of plans and ideas will be on the board in the near future. However, "not accepting change doesn't bring back the past, it prevents the future"? It may change the direction things go in the future, but certainly doesn't prevent it.
Exactly, I got that quote from a Book called "Dakota, A spiritual Geography" it actually was pertaining to the Farmers that wanted to keep farming the way we used to....each small farmer having a chance to keep farming small...well we know what happened there.
Point being If we want to "get with the times" per say then I do know for sure that Three Classes is not the answer....the answer is, don't worry about how many kids are in the school your playing......don't gauge the program by the size of the school.... just play Ball and try to win every game.......the best example of a program like this that comes to my mind is Munich ND... they have never cared who they were playing and their ALWAYS competitive and I know some day in the near future they will be forced to even consolidate further but know one will ever forget the fact that they were a small school with the Heart of a lion.
Point also being as the Farms got bigger know one has forgotten who the individual was that started it all....You wont loose your identity if you join up to become a bigger and better school because your identity is you, not your town....Now, Yes the town that has to close the school will suffer just like the Farmer who had to quit farming.....but the problem is, is we cant stop evaluation and I personally believe that three classes is Evolving ND B Ball backwards! I'm thinking of the students not the towns!!
heimer wrote:Ah yes, that steve34. Great guy.
Bisonguy06 wrote:The "Myth" of a David vs. Goliath state championship draws a lot of interest to class B basketball. For those of you who haven't been paying attention, myth has been the reality in the last three years:
2007:
Little Parshall vs. Big, bad, private school Trinity - and Parshall won
2008:
Little Turtle Lake-Mercer vs. BIG Grafton - Grafton won
2009:
Little Dakota Prairie vs. medium sized Linton (who was as unpopular as any "big" or private class B school for reasons we know quite well) - Linton won
The best class B championship game I ever witnessed in person was little Leeds over big, bad, undefeated Trinity 54-53 in 1999 at the Civic Center.
And the best class B championship game I ever watched on TV was little New Rockford over big Bottineau in Minot in 2005.
1998 was a great title game between big Standing Rock and little Leeds, and 2004 was something of a dud between big Trinity and little Milnor.
At any rate, I know that some of you prefer "myths" and don't like it when I compile actual data and results... but your myth has been reality many times.
HammerTime wrote:Why was Linton unpopular in 2009, again? I don't remember. It all becomes a haze of memories after a while.
Sniper wrote:Interesting how everybody hates on Linton for that happening but Shiloh has talented players move in regularly and so many people defend them... I do not understand the difference...
Sportsrube wrote:Sniper wrote:Interesting how everybody hates on Linton for that happening but Shiloh has talented players move in regularly and so many people defend them... I do not understand the difference...
I couldn't agree more Sniper, but you are going to stir up a hornet's nest going after the private schools!
Pit Bull wrote:Sportsrube wrote:Sniper wrote:Interesting how everybody hates on Linton for that happening but Shiloh has talented players move in regularly and so many people defend them... I do not understand the difference...
I couldn't agree more Sniper, but you are going to stir up a hornet's nest going after the private schools!
Sniper, what is there to defend. Shiloh and Private schools are in well populated areas. Families move to these areas all the time. Some of those families choose to put there kids in Private schools. All of these private schools have to abide by the NDHSAA, just like every other school in the State.
If my memory serves me correctly, a starter from Flasher's bball team last year transferred there in high school and another one was actually in another school district but chose to attend Flasher. Currently there is a student in Middle school (Flasher) that transferred this year. So I am trying to figure out your point? Is it that Private schools have more transfers than rural schools? I would agree since larger towns such as Bismarck are growing while rural areas are shrinking (exception: oil country).
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