Indy5 wrote:Do you really think that every single kid is available for every team camp in the summer? No. Coaches usually struggle to get 8 varsity caliber kids there. Individual camps aren't "encouraged" like you say. Only kids that are serious go to those. Guarantee that they don't have open gyms more than twice a week, and those are simply fun to show up and play a little pick with your friends for an hour. AAU ball isn't expected for anyone to play. It's for elite kids. It costs a lot of money, but for those good kids who want a fun experience and exposure its good. Certainly no high school coaches are going around saying "you have to play AAU or you'll never see the floor."
Stop acting like there is so much to do. In reality, they have 2-3 team camps to go to for a day and 2 hours of open gym in the summer. I even leaned those numbers to the highest side too.
Sportsrube wrote:I am going to agree with Packers21 - don't punish or degrade the kids that do put hours and hours into their game during the offseason. These kids have a drive and a desire that usually outweighs a lot of other players just like some people at your job have a drive and a desire that outweighs some of their co-workers. I don't want to see us punish the overachievers just to make a few under achievers happy. If you want a competitive program in this day and age, this is how it gets done. People may not like the year around "season" but that's what we have now. If you don't put the time in, then unfortunately you suffer consequences.
balla45 wrote:That is an interesting dilemma. In my personal opinion, teachers/coaches, should be able to do whatever they want with their summer, much like I feel students/athletes should be able to.
It may not seem fair, but if a teacher is offering a service to prepare students for college, and that service can only be offered to ten students, then I think that is fine.
I think it is the same with traveling teams. Speaking from my own perspective, I would love to give every single player who wanted to play traveling basketball an opportunity to do so, but it is not feasible. It also can be counterproductive to the athletes who actually are dedicated, as compared to the athletes who just want to go on summer trips.
With high school team camps, I believe that all members of teams are invited to it. When I played, everyone who signed up got to play, but it may have changed since then.
scoobyx2 wrote:There should absolutely be no problem with parents who support their kids in working hard all year round on a skill. Kids take summer school so they can take advanced classes in high school, so I don't see a problem with kids working on their athletic skills. My question is whether or not high school coaches should be involved in off-season training like traveling tournaments and team camps in the summer. Using the academic example, what if there was a math class (which is known to prepare kids to get scholarships) that was exclusive only to kids who get a certain grade, and the teacher selected a few kids to tutor over the summer so they got in, but didn't open the tutoring to everyone.
balla45 wrote:As an example, say you attended Century High School last season as a sophomore boy. When you see 5 freshmen playing on the sophomore, jv, and varsity teams, and you are only on the sophomore team, you may choose to say, wow, the coaches already think all of these freshmen are better than me, so I am going to quit because I will never get to play. Or if you were 1 of the other freshmen who did not get moved up, you may think, wow, the coaches think all 5 of those guys are better than any of us, so I won't have a chance to start, and the same thing happens.
I think that is the underlying issue with a lot of the Class A numbers.
I could be wrong though.
balla45 wrote:Aah, I can see where you are coming from there. What I think is beginning to happen is that as new opportunities to improve become available at younger and younger ages, those who choose to take advantage of those opportunities will often become very talented. Then we have those who choose not to take advantage of those opportunities and do not put the work in, and then they get in a situation where a significant amount of younger players are better at that particular sport. Then I think we get in a situation where kids start to see the writing on the wall, and realize they may never have a chance to get significant playing time, so they choose to just quit the sport instead of working to be the 5th starter, the 6th man, the 7th man, etc.
As an example, say you attended Century High School last season as a sophomore boy. When you see 5 freshmen playing on the sophomore, jv, and varsity teams, and you are only on the sophomore team, you may choose to say, wow, the coaches already think all of these freshmen are better than me, so I am going to quit because I will never get to play. Or if you were 1 of the other freshmen who did not get moved up, you may think, wow, the coaches think all 5 of those guys are better than any of us, so I won't have a chance to start, and the same thing happens.
I think that is the underlying issue with a lot of the Class A numbers.
I could be wrong though.
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