scruffy wrote:I have very good feelings about private schools. In general kids receive a good well rounded education and test higher, are better prepared for college, tend to be involved in more curricular activities and God isn't forbidden from their lives if they choose. The cost per pupil for the education is also much lower then our state funded schools so the value is exceptional as they tend to be much leaner and meaner. As far as sports go I don't know of any that openly recruit athletes and it's no different then the public schools open enrollment that North Dakota offers. They're number one priority is education and they're not in the business to just win a district or regional championship in sports.
scruffy wrote:I have very good feelings about private schools. In general kids receive a good well rounded education and (1)test higher, (2)are better prepared for college, (3)tend to be involved in more curricular activities and (4)God isn't forbidden from their lives if they choose. (5)The cost per pupil for the education is also much lower then our state funded schools so the value is exceptional as they tend to be much leaner and meaner. As far as sports go I don't know of any that openly recruit athletes and (6)it's no different then the public schools open enrollment that North Dakota offers. They're number one priority is education and they're not in the business to just win a district or regional championship in sports.
classB4ever wrote:scruffy wrote:I have very good feelings about private schools. In general kids receive a good well rounded education and (1)test higher, (2)are better prepared for college, (3)tend to be involved in more curricular activities and (4)God isn't forbidden from their lives if they choose. (5)The cost per pupil for the education is also much lower then our state funded schools so the value is exceptional as they tend to be much leaner and meaner. As far as sports go I don't know of any that openly recruit athletes and (6)it's no different then the public schools open enrollment that North Dakota offers. They're number one priority is education and they're not in the business to just win a district or regional championship in sports.
scruffy, would love to hear if you were just trying to stir the pot or if you firmly believe in your above statements.
Concerning:
1. So, you can prove that all students attending private schools test higher then all students attending public school. My, that's quite a statement. Guess our public students and teachers should be ashamed.
2. Proof, statistics?
3. Once again, you can prove this?
4. By attending public schools, God is forbidden from our students lives? Really? Think you may be wrong on this one.
5. Look below.
6. The difference is, as stated many times, you must move your family, household, etc.
With everything you said and especially referencing No. 5, I have only one simply question. If these schools are so very much better in every way as you have stated, so much leaner and meaner, then why have the enrollments essentially stayed the same? Seems to me that everyone should be flocking to private schools just to get out of our terrible public school system. Why hasn't that happened?
classB4ever wrote:Run, I certainly know and can appreciate that. My problem is that scruffy seems to be taking private schools down an "Elitist" path with his comments and am wondering if that is his intention. Also, my final question does have a point and really not sure if I want to go down that road either.
NDplayin wrote:It looks like there may be one point of rule that needs to be clarified before this topic goes to a dangerous place. Public and parochial schools are subject to the exact same rules when it comes to student-athlete transfers. If a student moves to a parochial school and his/her parents don't move, that student is inelligible for varsity play for two semesters... same as a public school. If the private school is within the same district boundaries as the previous school, the student is inelligible regardless of if the parents move or not.
For example, If a student from Williston High School transfers to Williston Trinity Christian, that student is inelligible from varsity play for two semesters.
Other than that, it seems to me like Scruffy and ClassB4ever are getting emotional about a topic that is only productive if discussed rationally. It seems to me like Scruffy defended his position with good intentions, but did so a little hastily and with poor word choice, and that ClassB4ever is over-reacting to Scruffy's enthusiasm. None-the-less, the one fact I know for sure is that transfer rules apply the same to both. I'll stay out of the emotional stuff.
classB4ever wrote:scruffy wrote:I have very good feelings about private schools. In general kids receive a good well rounded education and (1)test higher, (2)are better prepared for college, (3)tend to be involved in more curricular activities and (4)God isn't forbidden from their lives if they choose. (5)The cost per pupil for the education is also much lower then our state funded schools so the value is exceptional as they tend to be much leaner and meaner. As far as sports go I don't know of any that openly recruit athletes and (6)it's no different then the public schools open enrollment that North Dakota offers. They're number one priority is education and they're not in the business to just win a district or regional championship in sports.
classB4ever wrote:NDPlayin, it's good to see you came to scruffy's defense once again. I find it humorous how you always seem to give scruffy a free pass with his ridiculous statements. How did you put it, "defended his position with good intentions". However, if anybody dare call him out, they are "over-reacting to Scruffy's enthusiasm". Wow.
NDplayin wrote:classB4ever wrote:NDPlayin, it's good to see you came to scruffy's defense once again. I find it humorous how you always seem to give scruffy a free pass with his ridiculous statements. How did you put it, "defended his position with good intentions". However, if anybody dare call him out, they are "over-reacting to Scruffy's enthusiasm". Wow.
ClassB4ever,
The next time you want to quote me, I kindly ask you to fully quote me as it pertains to your point. You claim that I rush to Scruffy's defense, yet you failed to continue the quote to where I pointed out that Scruffy was hasty in his reply and had poor word choice. I don't know about you, but the part you conveniently left out doesn't sound much like rushing to anyone's defense to me, nor does it sound like a free pass. I don't fault Scruffy for defending his parochial school views anymore than I fault you for defending your public school view; deal with that.
You and Scruffy feel free to continue to be irrational and emotional about this topic and see how far it gets you. I have no intentions of being involved in the emotional side of this debate. You may also feel free to attack any of my positions you'd like; however, quote me out of context again, and I just might get emotional about your seemingly selective reading comprehension skills.
Bisonguy06 wrote:Just a quick note here - the ACT exam measures college preparedness in English, Math, Science, ect.
If a parochial school could demonstrate higher ACT test scores than state averages, it could also claim better college preparedness, at least by one measure.
In other words, Scruffy could make a case for both #1 and #2 on his list if his parochial school performs well on the ACT. These are not ridiculous claims.
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