SirSinksALot wrote:I myself am a ref, not high school but up to bantams, and i personally like the new rules. Players aren't getting away with any of the cheap shots that start fights anymore and the players that can skate are showing themselves. Teams like Jamestown who only have big goons running around are getting hurt by the rules. The only rule that is questionable is locking up off face-offs... what are u supposed to do let the center walk you every time? That and it's a lot harder to score from the point off face-offs now that wings can head straight for them.
The mention of lack of refs in small towns is because it costs money each year in order to be a ref and buy equipment. Small towns only have so many games and they can only pay so much. Unless u live around GF, Fargo, or Bismarck you are probably stuck with the same set of refs and there is not much you can do about it.
Are you a Ref MhSund? Because in order to become a high school ref you basically have to ref for 5 years and obviously be of the right age and pass all the exams. Not to mention every year it costs money to register and attend the seminars. What i was trying to say is that it's not worth it for someone living in a small town such as Devils Lake or Jamestown to become a ref because of what i listed above. Im not saying that teams cant pay the refs its just not enough money for someone to ref 1-2 games a week without having to travel or ref little kids.mhsund wrote:SirSinksALot wrote:I myself am a ref, not high school but up to bantams, and i personally like the new rules. Players aren't getting away with any of the cheap shots that start fights anymore and the players that can skate are showing themselves. Teams like Jamestown who only have big goons running around are getting hurt by the rules. The only rule that is questionable is locking up off face-offs... what are u supposed to do let the center walk you every time? That and it's a lot harder to score from the point off face-offs now that wings can head straight for them.
The mention of lack of refs in small towns is because it costs money each year in order to be a ref and buy equipment. Small towns only have so many games and they can only pay so much. Unless u live around GF, Fargo, or Bismarck you are probably stuck with the same set of refs and there is not much you can do about it.
Well #1 as a center you can still tie up the other center with the new standard of play. As long as you keep your hands on your stick and stay with your lane then you will be fine.
#2 off the face-offs the player that is going up to the point can be stopped and the player stopping him won't get a penalty. The player that is stopping him has to establish a lane that he is taking, but he can't grab or put his stick on the player that is going out to the point. That is the little stuff that is stopping the skilled players that might not be big to get out to the point and stop the shot. It also tests the D by making them move the puck and be able to handle it. They arent going to have all day to take a shot anymore. Now they will have to learn how to stick handle and move the puck to their other D partner.
#3 the idea of the small towns not having enough money to pay for refs and the refs not being able to afford equipment. That is bs. The schools pay for highschool game and the hockey programs pay for refs in the younger ages groups. So they have plenty to pay refs. Even the small towns have refs too. Most of them have refs from the bigger cities traveling to the small towns so yah you might have to have the same refs again and again b/c some refs have jobs that won't allow them to travel all the time. So if you have the same ref you know what they are going to call and what they aren't so get used to it or sit on the bench. There is no excuse to the new rules. Now you can't be the stupid goon on the ice. If you have not learned by now then you need to find a new sport.
Yes, I am and it does cost money to go to the seminars and register. But reffing one game will pretty much cover that. The seminars are only one day long so you don't have to pay for a hotel or anything. I think it is a great idea for people that play hockey and want to make some extra money or even ref after they hang up the gloves and stick. It is a great way to stay with the game you have played all your life. I would recommend kids in the smaller towns to get involved now cuz refs are at a demand. The senior officials I'm sure would help out the younger officals to get them the proper equipment too. They just have to ask.SirSinksALot wrote:Are you a Ref MhSund? Because in order to become a high school ref you basically have to ref for 5 years and obviously be of the right age and pass all the exams. Not to mention every year it costs money to register and attend the seminars. What i was trying to say is that it's not worth it for someone living in a small town such as Devils Lake or Jamestown to become a ref because of what i listed above. Im not saying that teams cant pay the refs its just not enough money for someone to ref 1-2 games a week without having to travel or ref little kids.mhsund wrote:SirSinksALot wrote:I myself am a ref, not high school but up to bantams, and i personally like the new rules. Players aren't getting away with any of the cheap shots that start fights anymore and the players that can skate are showing themselves. Teams like Jamestown who only have big goons running around are getting hurt by the rules. The only rule that is questionable is locking up off face-offs... what are u supposed to do let the center walk you every time? That and it's a lot harder to score from the point off face-offs now that wings can head straight for them.
The mention of lack of refs in small towns is because it costs money each year in order to be a ref and buy equipment. Small towns only have so many games and they can only pay so much. Unless u live around GF, Fargo, or Bismarck you are probably stuck with the same set of refs and there is not much you can do about it.
Well #1 as a center you can still tie up the other center with the new standard of play. As long as you keep your hands on your stick and stay with your lane then you will be fine.
#2 off the face-offs the player that is going up to the point can be stopped and the player stopping him won't get a penalty. The player that is stopping him has to establish a lane that he is taking, but he can't grab or put his stick on the player that is going out to the point. That is the little stuff that is stopping the skilled players that might not be big to get out to the point and stop the shot. It also tests the D by making them move the puck and be able to handle it. They arent going to have all day to take a shot anymore. Now they will have to learn how to stick handle and move the puck to their other D partner.
#3 the idea of the small towns not having enough money to pay for refs and the refs not being able to afford equipment. That is bs. The schools pay for highschool game and the hockey programs pay for refs in the younger ages groups. So they have plenty to pay refs. Even the small towns have refs too. Most of them have refs from the bigger cities traveling to the small towns so yah you might have to have the same refs again and again b/c some refs have jobs that won't allow them to travel all the time. So if you have the same ref you know what they are going to call and what they aren't so get used to it or sit on the bench. There is no excuse to the new rules. Now you can't be the stupid goon on the ice. If you have not learned by now then you need to find a new sport.
As for your discussions about the new rules it honestly depends on the refs because in Fargo i have seen tons of refs call and not call the penalties off face-offs.
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