thewanderer wrote:Well, it wont me two undefeated teams but it most likely will be for the east region championship. we actually could end up with three 6-1 teams. I dont want to get the cart ahead of the horse but lets say wahpeton defeats Grafton. there could be a 3 way tie for first with wahpeton, grafton and shanley, all with one win against another of the 3 teams. how would the region champs be decided?
bballfan7 wrote:thewanderer wrote:Well, it wont me two undefeated teams but it most likely will be for the east region championship. we actually could end up with three 6-1 teams. I dont want to get the cart ahead of the horse but lets say wahpeton defeats Grafton. there could be a 3 way tie for first with wahpeton, grafton and shanley, all with one win against another of the 3 teams. how would the region champs be decided?
Im sure they use a point differential between the 3 teams tied with a max point differential of 17. So since the Grafton Shanley game was something like 48-14 (not sure on the exact score) Grafton would get +17 and Shanley would get -17. But Shanley beat Wahp by around 30 so they would get +17 and wahp would be at -17.
So as of now it looks like this with the Wahp-Grafton game left to play.
Grafton+17
Shanley 0
Wahp -17
thewanderer wrote:basketball9 wrote:Just using one example here, the first game of the year Wahpeton traveled to Bismarck (over 3 hours on a bus) while bismarck was #2 in the state and Wahpeton won the game, despite everyone saying that they were going to have a terrible year. I think once the playoffs start the players know that it's single elimination and they are gonna show up to play from start to finish no matter whose field they're on.
basketball9, the main hype that got this thread going was the fact that both teams were 4-0 a week ago. there was a percieved build up to two undefeated east teams meeting to dicide the east region. Wahpeton lost. Grafton could lose as well. Every game is important in a 9 game season. Home field is important! i am sure it will be a great game in two weeks in Grafton and i am darn glad Grafton is as home. JMHO
yzgy wrote:With the forecast on Friday and Saturday of chance of rain and/or snow, I think it will be a closer game than last time. Neither team has had to play in "classic" football weather so it should not be a deciding factor, but will still play a part in the outcome. In fair weather, I have Grafton by 36. With the pending weather, I have Grafton by 24. If Whapeton is going to have a chance they will need to control the clock for the whole game not just the first half. Very tough to run against one of best D lines in the state, tough to pass against one of the best D back sets in the state. Both teams will have to stay focused, keep the penalties to a minimum, don't give up the big plays,
Grafton outran and outpassed Whapeton significantly last time and it should be a repeat.
Grafton 32
Whapeton 8
yzgy wrote:The 50 point differential won't ever come into play unless a team totally gives up and allows either jv to score at will. Starters will be pulled after the 30, not a safe lead by any means but there is no use to put key players into jeopardy by running up the score. Not a style displayed by either team, especially with championship the following week. Grafton has not allowed more than 2 touchdowns in any game and I find it hard to believe any team can easily stop Grafton's offense. Too many weapons. Who do you cover with your best guys when facing them? Is there a team that can match up man for man with the skill set Grafton has? I don't believe they can be stopped but only contained.
Anyone have any ideas how to beat Grafton's offense and/or defense? Interested in finding out what holes are in their armor.
old#63 wrote:yzgy wrote:The 50 point differential won't ever come into play unless a team totally gives up and allows either jv to score at will. Starters will be pulled after the 30, not a safe lead by any means but there is no use to put key players into jeopardy by running up the score. Not a style displayed by either team, especially with championship the following week. Grafton has not allowed more than 2 touchdowns in any game and I find it hard to believe any team can easily stop Grafton's offense. Too many weapons. Who do you cover with your best guys when facing them? Is there a team that can match up man for man with the skill set Grafton has? I don't believe they can be stopped but only contained.
Anyone have any ideas how to beat Grafton's offense and/or defense? Interested in finding out what holes are in their armor.
Grafton has an offense that is tough to stop. Hanson and Jiskra are the main threat, but they have several other very fast, athletic recievers (Suda, Demers, Lunde, etc...). Burns is a decent power runner who keeps his feet going, and they run Suda and Lunde on crossing plays from the wide out spots. And then throw in Hanson on draws, keepers, and some options. There are just too many weapons for defenses to try and read the keys from. If there is one thing that seems like a weakness it's that some of Grafton's plays take a while to develop, so if you can get a better rush or blitz and get into the backfield you can disrupt things. But honestly, it will be tough to stop them from scoring.
So if you can't stop them from scoring, you need to keep them from getting the ball. On offense, keep the clock going. Heads up, power, smash mouth running. You need quickness and brute force off the line, with a lead blocker blowing through the hole ahead of the ball to clean out the linebackers. Lot's of 5 yard running plays up the middle. Ball control, ball control, ball control, and no fumbles or penalties. Do all that and you might have a chance of keeping it close. Get behind by a couple touchdowns, and the game is over. Grafton hasn't been in a close game for a while. Maybe if you can keep it close and low scoring into the second half, you might get them rattled and make them impatient. And impatience causes mistakes.
I doubt if anyone will be able to do all this. But, I think that is the only formula than might have a chance. It's definitely Grafton's championship to lose.
winner-within wrote:Boy you 2 (old 63-wanderer) must have a little clout ....to be able to exploit your Team and not get harassed by the Ravishing Mods and Guru Sports God's of this site.......!!!!
I think they are actually scared your right!
but I know their hopin you wrong!
old#63 wrote:winner-within wrote:Boy you 2 (old 63-wanderer) must have a little clout ....to be able to exploit your Team and not get harassed by the Ravishing Mods and Guru Sports God's of this site.......!!!!
I think they are actually scared your right!
but I know their hopin you wrong!
You gotta show a little swagger come tourney time, winner!
winner-within wrote:old#63 wrote:winner-within wrote:Boy you 2 (old 63-wanderer) must have a little clout ....to be able to exploit your Team and not get harassed by the Ravishing Mods and Guru Sports God's of this site.......!!!!
I think they are actually scared your right!
but I know their hopin you wrong!
You gotta show a little swagger come tourney time, winner!
Not me....I come across as Arrogant!!!...and....out of line!!!
yzgy wrote:Football in Grafton should be alive and well for some years to come. Rumor has it that the Varsity, JV, C squad, 7th grade and 5th grade all went undefeated this year. Sounds like a lot of talent and heart on the gridiron.
old#63 wrote:Grafton (sort of a hockey town).
snohcs wrote:yzgy wrote:Football in Grafton should be alive and well for some years to come. Rumor has it that the Varsity, JV, C squad, 7th grade and 5th grade all went undefeated this year. Sounds like a lot of talent and heart on the gridiron.
Quite frankly, I'm not quite sure Grafton will lose a game until 2017. They have an awesome program, great coaches, even better parents, and, of course, very talented kids. It's going to be Championship Spoiler Football for years and years to come.
Indy5 wrote:old#63 wrote:Grafton (sort of a hockey town).
Speaking of which, where are are these athletic skill position players in the winter? This statement isn't implying their basketball team wasn't and won't be good cause it obviously is, but the only football players I remember are Jiskra and Hanson. Do the rest play hockey?
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