1205 wrote:Three-class proposal voted down at NDHSAA meeting
BISMARCK - The latest three-class proposal for North Dakota high school basketball and volleyball was voted down at the North Dakota High School Activities Association meeting Thursday in Bismarck.
By: Heath Hotzler, INFORUM
BISMARCK - The latest three-class proposal for North Dakota high school basketball and volleyball was voted down at the North Dakota High School Activities Association meeting Thursday in Bismarck.
The vote was 110 opposed and 47 in favor.
Flip wrote:who votes for this and can you see the results?
ndlionsfan wrote:Flip wrote:who votes for this and can you see the results?
I believe its a rep from each member school...more than likely an AD or Supt. I doubt if they publish who voted which way.
scc wrote:From the Bismarck Tribune:
For (47): Barnes County North (Rogers), Barnes County North (Wimbledon-Courtenay), Beulah, Center-Stanton, Dickinson, Edgeley, Ellendale, Enderlin, Fargo Davies, Fargo North, Fargo South, Gackle-Streeter, Glen Ullin, Griggs County Central, Hebron, Hettinger, Kulm, Lidgerwood, Litchville-Marion, Maple Valley, Medina, Midkota, Montpelier, Mott-Regent, Munich, New England, North Sargent, Richardton-Taylor, Richland, Sawyer, Scranton, Solen-Cannonball, Starkweather, Strasburg, TGU (Granville), TGU (Towner), Trenton, Underwood, Valley City, Valley-Edinburg, Wahpeton, Warwick, West Fargo, White Shield, Williston Trinity Christian, Wilton, Wyndmere.
Against (110): Adams-Edmore, Ashley, Beach, Belfield, Bismarck, Bismarck Century, Bismarck St. Mary's, Bottineau, Bowbells, Bowman County, Carrington, Cavalier, Central Cass, Central Valley, Dakota Prairie, Des Lacs-Burlington, Devils Lake, Dickinson Trinity, Divide County, Drake-Anamoose, Drayton, Dunseith, Fairmount, Fargo Shanley, Fessenden-Bowdon, Finley-Sharon, Flasher, Fordville-Lankin, Four Winds, Garrison, Glenburn, Goodrich, Grafton, Grand Forks Central, Grand Forks Red River, Grant County, Hankinson, Harvey, Hatton, Hazelton-Moffit-Braddock, Hazen, Hillsboro, Hope-Page, Jamestown, Kenmare, Kensal, Kidder County (Steele), Kidder County (Tappen), Killdeer, Kindred, Lakota, LaMoure, Langdon Area, Larimore, Lewis & Clark (Berthold), Lewis & Clark (North Shore), Linton, Lisbon, Mandan, Mandaree, Max, May-Port-CG, McClusky, Midway, Minnewaukan, Minot, Minot Ryan, Minto, Mohall-Sherwood, Napoleon, New Rockford-Sheyenne, New Salem-Almont, New Town, Newburg, North Border (Pembina), North Border (Walhalla), North Star (Cando), Northern Cass, Northwood, Oak Grove, Oakes, Our Redeemer's, Park River, Parshall, Pingree-Buchanan, Powers Lake, Ray, Rock Lake, Rolla, Rugby, Sargent Central, Selfridge, Shiloh Christian, South Heart, St. John, St. Thomas, Stanley, Surrey, Thompson, Tioga, Turtle Lake-Mercer, Turtle Mountain, Velva, Washburn, Watford City, Westhope, Williston, Wishek, Wolford, Zeeland.
ClassBEast wrote:Why the heck would the "really bigs" on the eastern side of the state vote for it?? Fargo Davies, Fargo North, Fargo South, West Fargo - why do they care? Unless they think the crazy A/B state tournament that was being proposed would all of a sudden make their state tournament more appealing?
Hinsa wrote:This makes 6 votes on this issue in the last 20 years. This from the Grand Forks Herald today:
Three-class proposals were voted down by the general assembly in 1990, 1994 and 2004. In 2008 a nonbinding straw poll resulted in 59 percent opposition to a three-class system, and in 2009 the association board voted down another proposal.
Yet in Hotzler's article it said someone is ALREADY rolling on ANOTHER plan. That really, really, really angers me. Voted down 6 TIMES, yet they are going to try again. What a waste of time, money, and resources.
ClassBEast wrote:Why the heck would the "really bigs" on the eastern side of the state vote for it?? Fargo Davies, Fargo North, Fargo South, West Fargo - why do they care? Unless they think the crazy A/B state tournament that was being proposed would all of a sudden make their state tournament more appealing?
Bisonguy06 wrote:ClassBEast wrote:Why the heck would the "really bigs" on the eastern side of the state vote for it?? Fargo Davies, Fargo North, Fargo South, West Fargo - why do they care? Unless they think the crazy A/B state tournament that was being proposed would all of a sudden make their state tournament more appealing?
The "really bigs" were only minimally affected by this plan either way, and they probably looked at it from the angle of "Is this plan better for the majority of North Dakota student-athletes?" There are reasonable people on both sides of that coin, so I don't have an issue with any class A schools voting "yes," even though I would answer "no" to the same question. You also can't expect a class A school to just abstain from voting, even though there would have been little change out east and no change out west.
Fargo public schools participated in the design of this plan and so did Wahpeton, so there should be no surprise that North, South, Davies and Wahpeton voted 'yes.'
The most interesting votes, in my mind, are Jamestown's "no" vote and Williston Trinity Christian's "yes" vote. Jamestown was one of the twelve schools that helped draft the plan. Why did they vote no? Any idea? Did I miss any other schools within the 12 that backed out?
And I think it's pretty natural that the private schools would vote against this plan due to the 1.4 weighting factor... so I was surprised to see that Trinity Christian voted for the plan.
winner-within wrote:The true fact of the matter is another Class could only make total sense if the population of rural ND increased by at least 10%.....It does get old seeing the same teams at the state tourn....but we have to attack that problem differently than adding a Class...For Football seeing Velva and Now Watford there all the time is enough to make some puke....but the other side of the coin is they deserve all they get, due to hard work a dedication.
Flip wrote:winner-within wrote:The true fact of the matter is another Class could only make total sense if the population of rural ND increased by at least 10%.....It does get old seeing the same teams at the state tourn....but we have to attack that problem differently than adding a Class...For Football seeing Velva and Now Watford there all the time is enough to make some puke....but the other side of the coin is they deserve all they get, due to hard work a dedication.
How should we do it?
scruffy wrote:or...insist that every family in the school district has at least 10 kids!
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