Indy5 wrote:I have a question winner. Are we going to start a topic on every QB in the league? Maybe get to the elite college ones too?
baseball wrote:I'd take Manning. Brady has had a QB Rating of 95 or above only twice in his career. Manning has a career rating of over 95.
Flip wrote:baseball wrote:I'd take Manning. Brady has had a QB Rating of 95 or above only twice in his career. Manning has a career rating of over 95.
Take a look at how many years Brady has thrown over 30 TDs.
Manning will probably go down as the best QB ever.
baseball wrote: wonder what would happen to Indy is Manning ever had to miss multiple games.
baseball wrote:Flip wrote:baseball wrote:I'd take Manning. Brady has had a QB Rating of 95 or above only twice in his career. Manning has a career rating of over 95.
Take a look at how many years Brady has thrown over 30 TDs.
Manning will probably go down as the best QB ever.
Manning....5
Brady.....1
I can't believe how overlooked Manning is by everyone. Maybe I just dont watch the right channels, but everyone on ESPN seems to think Brady is God's gift to football, Favre is in the debate with Marino and Montana for best ever. They make it sound like Manning is just another guy on the field. Brady loses points in my book for being hurt, and his team can throw in a guy who hasnt started a game since high school adn still go 11-5. wonder what would happen to Indy is Manning ever had to miss multiple games.
winner-within wrote:baseball wrote:Flip wrote:baseball wrote:I'd take Manning. Brady has had a QB Rating of 95 or above only twice in his career. Manning has a career rating of over 95.
Take a look at how many years Brady has thrown over 30 TDs.
Manning will probably go down as the best QB ever.
Manning....5
Brady.....1
I can't believe how overlooked Manning is by everyone. Maybe I just dont watch the right channels, but everyone on ESPN seems to think Brady is God's gift to football, Favre is in the debate with Marino and Montana for best ever. They make it sound like Manning is just another guy on the field. Brady loses points in my book for being hurt, and his team can throw in a guy who hasnt started a game since high school adn still go 11-5. wonder what would happen to Indy is Manning ever had to miss multiple games.
Yea thats right I would rather have 30 td's than the super bowl rings You still ahve to know how to hand off too.
The Schwab wrote:My feelings on Tom Brady are that he is an above average QB who was put in a situation with probably the best coach in NFL history. If you put Manning on those teams and give him Randy Moss to throw too after the rings...all I can say is Moss would be closing in on Rice's records. Peyton is a much better QB.
winner-within wrote:The Schwab wrote:My feelings on Tom Brady are that he is an above average QB who was put in a situation with probably the best coach in NFL history. If you put Manning on those teams and give him Randy Moss to throw too after the rings...all I can say is Moss would be closing in on Rice's records. Peyton is a much better QB.
Rightfully so...the chips fall where they fall...Peyton is simply not "a much better QB" it doesn't work that way in the pro business...stats are one thing...but this is how it works.
you dont grade until its over, when they are both Great players
-both go to hall of fame
-Brady ends up with more championships ( example: Marino, better than Montana on paper...Montana still King)
The Schwab wrote:winner-within wrote:The Schwab wrote:My feelings on Tom Brady are that he is an above average QB who was put in a situation with probably the best coach in NFL history. If you put Manning on those teams and give him Randy Moss to throw too after the rings...all I can say is Moss would be closing in on Rice's records. Peyton is a much better QB.
Rightfully so...the chips fall where they fall...Peyton is simply not "a much better QB" it doesn't work that way in the pro business...stats are one thing...but this is how it works.
you dont grade until its over, when they are both Great players
-both go to hall of fame
-Brady ends up with more championships ( example: Marino, better than Montana on paper...Montana still King)
So by your "grading scale" Trent Dilfer is a better qb than Dan Marino? And I know this is off topic, but where do you rank Kurt Warner
winner-within wrote:The Schwab wrote:winner-within wrote:The Schwab wrote:My feelings on Tom Brady are that he is an above average QB who was put in a situation with probably the best coach in NFL history. If you put Manning on those teams and give him Randy Moss to throw too after the rings...all I can say is Moss would be closing in on Rice's records. Peyton is a much better QB.
Rightfully so...the chips fall where they fall...Peyton is simply not "a much better QB" it doesn't work that way in the pro business...stats are one thing...but this is how it works.
you dont grade until its over, when they are both Great players
-both go to hall of fame
-Brady ends up with more championships ( example: Marino, better than Montana on paper...Montana still King)
So by your "grading scale" Trent Dilfer is a better qb than Dan Marino? And I know this is off topic, but where do you rank Kurt Warner
first off I do not think I am a NFL QB expert....but I enjoy comparisons and the debate that tags along....I hate Dilfer...cant even look at him...remember I said Hall of Fame comes first and Trent wont be there, or at least I wouldn't vote him in. People always think of Marino when the dolphins are mentioned, then they pause and think "no superbowl"...then they perk up and say "undefeated season"...all in all I think of Warren Moon when I think of Dan Marino.
Kurt Warner? I'd take him before Manning...and I'm being honest....he can be a crybaby with coaches and teammates, but he is right with Favre when it comes to toughness on the field, plus he's more accurate.
winner-within wrote:what Manning has on Qb's of the past and QB's of the present is Brains...which brings me back to Brady I would bet their IQ's in general, along with their football smarts to be real close. Talent and skills are close
winner-within wrote:And that's when instincts kick in and you get the job done and the game won. And no one in the league does that better than tom brady
winner-within wrote:And that's when instincts kick in and you get the job done and the game won. And no one in the league does that better than tom brady
baseball wrote:winner-within wrote:And that's when instincts kick in and you get the job done and the game won. And no one in the league does that better than tom brady
True, but more times then not Manning knows exactly what he is going to do when the ball is snapped and doesnt have to rely on instincts.
winner-within wrote:baseball wrote:winner-within wrote:And that's when instincts kick in and you get the job done and the game won. And no one in the league does that better than tom brady
True, but more times then not Manning knows exactly what he is going to do when the ball is snapped and doesnt have to rely on instincts.
Manning may be the best in the League Day in and day out.... night in and night out.... his Stats prove that...
All in All I will stick with Brady as the best QB.
winner-within wrote:The Colts had a nice team last year and have been respectable through out the last ten 7 years....loosing Dungy really hurts them....
The NFC will be the stronger Conference again this year....Patriots will be back in the hunt along with the Jets and Ravens.....Tennessee will be strong....
Manning has the stats...but we all have our favorites and Mine is Farve because he plays for my team.....I have never liked the Manning's because they seem arrogant....I think you would have a better chance at getting a Autograph from Brady or Farve before you even got close to the Manning's....their kinda like the Football Gods, which is a turn off to me, so I elect to dislike them...plus they dont stand out in front of Brady or Favre far enough to make a difference.
gobison#6 wrote:winner-within wrote:The Colts had a nice team last year and have been respectable through out the last ten 7 years....loosing Dungy really hurts them....
The NFC will be the stronger Conference again this year....Patriots will be back in the hunt along with the Jets and Ravens.....Tennessee will be strong....
Manning has the stats...but we all have our favorites and Mine is Farve because he plays for my team.....I have never liked the Manning's because they seem arrogant....I think you would have a better chance at getting a Autograph from Brady or Farve before you even got close to the Manning's....their kinda like the Football Gods, which is a turn off to me, so I elect to dislike them...plus they dont stand out in front of Brady or Favre far enough to make a difference.
You realize you said that the NFC is going to be the stronger conference, but then backed it up by saying the AFC teams that are strong. NE, NYJ, BAL, and TENN are all in the AFC.
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