ndlionsfan wrote:Wanda Schwab is no doubt one of the top 5 girls in ND history. Have to list her before the Leiers.
Audrey Enockson- Parshall gotta be in the top 10
ndlionsfan wrote:Wanda Schwab is no doubt one of the top 5 girls in ND history. Have to list her before the Leiers.
Sportsrube wrote:Fischer from Bowman was obviously the best scorer, but imo Nadine Schmidt from Braddock was the best all around player.
I find it interesting that none of us are bringing up any players from the last few years, seems like every girl mentioned was from 10 yrs ago or more.
Hinsa wrote:Rolla is correct. She was all-everything for them, and Stacy Dagner was the sharpshooter from the outside.
jtdc492 wrote:Hinsa wrote:Rolla is correct. She was all-everything for them, and Stacy Dagner was the sharpshooter from the outside.
You must be from that area to remember Stacey. She was a classmate of mine til they moved to Rolla.
justafan86 wrote:The Waldal's were outstanding and the Leier's were very good as well, but neither should be even be in this discussion. And while Tanya Fischer may hold the scoring record, Laura Hummel played before they put in the 3 point line. Can't imagine what her final totals might have been had she played with it. In my mind, Hummel is the greatest, hands down. Nadine Schmidt is a very close second. Pat Smykowski, Whitney Meier, Rebecca Fiekert and Lisa Herner are up there in the discussion as well. A couple that haven't been mentioned are Melissa Hagel (Balta) and Betsy Emerson(Beach). Should college careers be considered when trying to determine the best ever or are we talking HS alone?
The Schwab wrote:I would throw Eli Benz into this discussion already.
rock83 wrote:she is a very good player but that is a little unrealistic.The Schwab wrote:I would throw Eli Benz into this discussion already.
The Schwab wrote:rock83 wrote:she is a very good player but that is a little unrealistic.The Schwab wrote:I would throw Eli Benz into this discussion already.
Why is that unrealistic? All of the other players mentioned played before her, and players constantly are getting better, so the competition is better. I would say she's top 10 all time.
rock83 wrote:In no particular order
Lynette Mund
Pat Smykowski
Molly Anderson
Lisa Herner
Ruthie Dockter
Rachel Otto
Tonya Fischer
Nadine Schmidt
Pat Smykowski
Laura Hummel
Whitney Meier
Sherry Kliensasser
Nicci Schorsch
Chelsea Hausauer
Jessica Zundel
Andrea Ronderos
Katie Lorenz
Leah Klabo
Lisa Maus
Whitney Meier
Here is just a few that you might want to list first. Girls are not getting better and the competition is not getting better. The skill and competition level has actually went down hill. The good girls are still very good, but kids dont work on skills as much. Name a player that has the post moves of jessica zundel or ruthie dockter. Name a ball handler that can dribble with the skill of molly anderson etc.
The Schwab wrote:Girls aren't getting better? Really? Well I disagree with you, they are getting bigger, faster and stronger. If you put her 1 on 1 with any player you listed I feel she beats them, and she makes her teammates so much better, I respect your opinions but I feel you are way off
Hinsa wrote:The Schwab wrote:Girls aren't getting better? Really? Well I disagree with you, they are getting bigger, faster and stronger. If you put her 1 on 1 with any player you listed I feel she beats them, and she makes her teammates so much better, I respect your opinions but I feel you are way off
Schwabby, I'm going to disagree with you on this one. I feel the quality of play is down as well, at least in the Northeast. I firmly believe the good teams of the 80s would easily handle the good teams of today. Ballhandling skills are not as good, shooting percentages are not as good. And I dont' think the athletes are bigger either. There were lots of 6' and over post players in the 80s. The full court pressure I see played today is nothing compared to what the Hope Hustlers would do to you in the 80s.
So I respectfully disagree with you Schwab.
ndlionsfan wrote:justafan86 wrote:The Waldal's were outstanding and the Leier's were very good as well, but neither should be even be in this discussion. And while Tanya Fischer may hold the scoring record, Laura Hummel played before they put in the 3 point line. Can't imagine what her final totals might have been had she played with it. In my mind, Hummel is the greatest, hands down. Nadine Schmidt is a very close second. Pat Smykowski, Whitney Meier, Rebecca Fiekert and Lisa Herner are up there in the discussion as well. A couple that haven't been mentioned are Melissa Hagel (Balta) and Betsy Emerson(Beach). Should college careers be considered when trying to determine the best ever or are we talking HS alone?
Where's Wanda Scwhab from Esmond on your list?
scoobyx2 wrote:Hinsa wrote:The Schwab wrote:Girls aren't getting better? Really? Well I disagree with you, they are getting bigger, faster and stronger. If you put her 1 on 1 with any player you listed I feel she beats them, and she makes her teammates so much better, I respect your opinions but I feel you are way off
Schwabby, I'm going to disagree with you on this one. I feel the quality of play is down as well, at least in the Northeast. I firmly believe the good teams of the 80s would easily handle the good teams of today. Ballhandling skills are not as good, shooting percentages are not as good. And I dont' think the athletes are bigger either. There were lots of 6' and over post players in the 80s. The full court pressure I see played today is nothing compared to what the Hope Hustlers would do to you in the 80s.
So I respectfully disagree with you Schwab.
I will agree with Hinsa. Your reference to Hope is dead on! There were so many strong teams in the 80's from the east like Hope, Maple Valley, Finley-Sharon, North Central , etc., and many didn't ever make it to state. Finley-Sharon played with a 6 footer, and Hope had probably the fastest athletes in the state. I tell many young players today that they don't need fancy gyms with costly traveling teams...if they could just dribble on a gravel driveway with a rubber ball, they could be an all-stater...lol!
SCCconferenceinsider wrote:Nadine Schmidt, Braddock, 1987
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