baseball wrote:NorthDakota11 wrote:A friend really isn't a friend if he/she is asking you to do something that could seriously affect a commitment to something that in most cases you love to do and usually only get four years to do...
so when do you guys give up on friendships?? a 4 year max commitment trumps a commitment you have already been in for 10+ years?? im always there for my friends....always will be even in 20 years. over obsessing aobut work causes alot of divorces. but if thats the most important thing in your life...then i believe you have to reconsider your priorities. just my opinion
NorthDakota11 wrote:baseball wrote:NorthDakota11 wrote:A friend really isn't a friend if he/she is asking you to do something that could seriously affect a commitment to something that in most cases you love to do and usually only get four years to do...
so when do you guys give up on friendships?? a 4 year max commitment trumps a commitment you have already been in for 10+ years?? im always there for my friends....always will be even in 20 years. over obsessing aobut work causes alot of divorces. but if thats the most important thing in your life...then i believe you have to reconsider your priorities. just my opinion
Not once did I say you should abandon your friendships... and I don't think anyone else did either... I didn't drink a drop in high school and seven years later I'm still great friends with a lot of the guys I went to high school with that drank... I got a lot of crap for it but it was never mean spirited, they respected me and knew straight up that I wouldn't go to any parties... but knew my car was always available for a ride... the point I'm making is, its not right for those "friends" to put you in that spot... and you as an athlete have to have some common sense and say... I'm not going to do that, I've made a commitment to my school, my teamates, and my community... They aren't going to stop being your friend because you choose to do something else then drink... I know from personal experience...
baseball wrote:so you would rather a kid say no i wont go...i hope you dont die on your way home. or would u rather your kid say sure ill come with you to make sure u get home safe. you've said when you grow up in all your posts. your not giving them a chance at a childhood if your making them grow up right away.
Hinsa wrote:baseball wrote:so you would rather a kid say no i wont go...i hope you dont die on your way home. or would u rather your kid say sure ill come with you to make sure u get home safe. you've said when you grow up in all your posts. your not giving them a chance at a childhood if your making them grow up right away.
I would rather have them say "Come over to my house and we'll hang out" instead of letting them go to the party.
balla45 wrote:Hinsa wrote:baseball wrote:so you would rather a kid say no i wont go...i hope you dont die on your way home. or would u rather your kid say sure ill come with you to make sure u get home safe. you've said when you grow up in all your posts. your not giving them a chance at a childhood if your making them grow up right away.
I would rather have them say "Come over to my house and we'll hang out" instead of letting them go to the party.
This is not as effective as one might think. People are more inclined to go to a party than to play XBox for example. Even if they don't drink, a person is much more likely to hang out with 30 of their friends than one or two.
Hinsa wrote:balla45 wrote:Hinsa wrote:baseball wrote:so you would rather a kid say no i wont go...i hope you dont die on your way home. or would u rather your kid say sure ill come with you to make sure u get home safe. you've said when you grow up in all your posts. your not giving them a chance at a childhood if your making them grow up right away.
I would rather have them say "Come over to my house and we'll hang out" instead of letting them go to the party.
This is not as effective as one might think. People are more inclined to go to a party than to play XBox for example. Even if they don't drink, a person is much more likely to hang out with 30 of their friends than one or two.
I understand what you are saying Balla45. But if a person is truly going to take a stand and say that partying is not for me and not to be supported, then that stand has to start somewhere. Two people go hang out together to support each other away from the party, and the next time they invite a couple more to hang out, and then a couple more, and pretty soon you have a non-party group hanging out at each other's houses in a safe, chemical free environment.
To me the question is: does a person want to go with the flow, or take a stand for what you believe in?
I'll be the first to admit that when I was young I very often did not have the courage to stay away from the parties. That is why I have the greatest admiration and utmost respect for young people who do make the commitment to stay chemical free.
north_border_eagles2106 wrote:Hinsa wrote:balla45 wrote:Hinsa wrote:baseball wrote:so you would rather a kid say no i wont go...i hope you dont die on your way home. or would u rather your kid say sure ill come with you to make sure u get home safe. you've said when you grow up in all your posts. your not giving them a chance at a childhood if your making them grow up right away.
I would rather have them say "Come over to my house and we'll hang out" instead of letting them go to the party.
This is not as effective as one might think. People are more inclined to go to a party than to play XBox for example. Even if they don't drink, a person is much more likely to hang out with 30 of their friends than one or two.
I understand what you are saying Balla45. But if a person is truly going to take a stand and say that partying is not for me and not to be supported, then that stand has to start somewhere. Two people go hang out together to support each other away from the party, and the next time they invite a couple more to hang out, and then a couple more, and pretty soon you have a non-party group hanging out at each other's houses in a safe, chemical free environment.
To me the question is: does a person want to go with the flow, or take a stand for what you believe in?
I'll be the first to admit that when I was young I very often did not have the courage to stay away from the parties. That is why I have the greatest admiration and utmost respect for young people who do make the commitment to stay chemical free.
That sounds good in a disney channel world but you and I both know that stuff doesn't happen. When I was in high school there were kids that played sports that did drink and do that and kids that didn't. There was never a problem with everyone hanging out on weekends and the "peer pressure" factor was non-existant. If someone wasn't into the party scene they would just hang out and be fine. This isn't the same in every town but I know for us it was never an issue.
baller01 wrote:Something I find funny... Michael Phelps. The guy has a picture of him takin while holding a "bong" to his mouth. He doesn't get changed. Why not? Because according to authorities, holding a bong to your mouth doesn't imply that you are smoking weed. But yet, a beer can in the backround implies that that person is drinking and should be suspended. I know I'm comparing a highly famous athlete to high school students, but I just thought it was a funny situation.
balla45 wrote:Hinsa wrote:baseball wrote:so you would rather a kid say no i wont go...i hope you dont die on your way home. or would u rather your kid say sure ill come with you to make sure u get home safe. you've said when you grow up in all your posts. your not giving them a chance at a childhood if your making them grow up right away.
I would rather have them say "Come over to my house and we'll hang out" instead of letting them go to the party.
This is not as effective as one might think. People are more inclined to go to a party than to play XBox for example. Even if they don't drink, a person is much more likely to hang out with 30 of their friends than one or two.
booyah wrote:balla45 wrote:Hinsa wrote:baseball wrote:so you would rather a kid say no i wont go...i hope you dont die on your way home. or would u rather your kid say sure ill come with you to make sure u get home safe. you've said when you grow up in all your posts. your not giving them a chance at a childhood if your making them grow up right away.
I would rather have them say "Come over to my house and we'll hang out" instead of letting them go to the party.
This is not as effective as one might think. People are more inclined to go to a party than to play XBox for example. Even if they don't drink, a person is much more likely to hang out with 30 of their friends than one or two.
actually....when i was in school that is exactly what we did. we would go to someones house and hook up 3 or 4 xboxes and would just play halo or call of duty all night. it was pretty nerdy but hey....it kept us away from the drinking and partying during sports.
baller030 wrote:booyah wrote:balla45 wrote:Hinsa wrote:baseball wrote:so you would rather a kid say no i wont go...i hope you dont die on your way home. or would u rather your kid say sure ill come with you to make sure u get home safe. you've said when you grow up in all your posts. your not giving them a chance at a childhood if your making them grow up right away.
I would rather have them say "Come over to my house and we'll hang out" instead of letting them go to the party.
This is not as effective as one might think. People are more inclined to go to a party than to play XBox for example. Even if they don't drink, a person is much more likely to hang out with 30 of their friends than one or two.
actually....when i was in school that is exactly what we did. we would go to someones house and hook up 3 or 4 xboxes and would just play halo or call of duty all night. it was pretty nerdy but hey....it kept us away from the drinking and partying during sports.
did u do that outside of sports too?
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