riders wrote:best pitchers in the state..look at their stats and tell me that they are not all on about the same level. ERA and # of walks in innings for some of these guys are amazing. SO is a good indication too. the shanley guys are freaks by stats (but edc says alot) and the best in the west is between the 4 listed.
Williston
Sorenson, 7-0, 1.78 ERA, 43.1 IP, 23 BB, 52 SO
Minot
Bollinger, 4-3, 1.24 ERA, 45.1 IP, 26 BB, 62 SO
Dickinson
Grant Kovacs, 7-0, 0.37 ERA, 38.1 IP, 8 BB, 31 SO
D Lake
Jason Burdick, 3-1, 2.39 ERA, 41 IP, 19 BB, 30 SO
Shanley
ZachFrappier, 8-1, 0.98 ERA, 64.1 IP, 10 BB, 70 SO
Eric Jagim, 4-2, 0.65 ERA, 43.1 IP, 23 BB, 69 SO
South
Max Rusch, 5-0, 3 saves, 47.1 IP, 14 BB, 77 SO
Century
Wentz, 5-0, 1.48 ERA, 47.1 IP, 22 BB, 67 SO.
Johnson, 5-2, 0.93 ERA, 45.1 IP, 27 BB, 48 SO
sorry to get a little off topic but "best in the state" kinda compelled me to say otherwise
i_see_it_all wrote:congrats to williston on their 1st ever title! 21 scoreless innings, that is amazing! sorenson was a monster and should be the one getting the pitching hype. he killed dickinson and shut the door on south. in my opinion hes the best pitcher in the state right now. egge is also a stud. westphal not coach of the year?
shanley was pathetic, how were they a 2 seed. east baseball
on a side note, the west went 6-2 against the east. i was impressed with south's pitching in the 3 games though.
highheat wrote:dead ball era wrote:Long-time viewer, first-time poster -- Hold on now i_see_it_all, I can tell by your demeanor that you are a "youngster." Back in the dead ball era, we measured teams by their season, not by one weekend. That's why baseball usually plays out it's championships in series rather than single-elimination tournaments. But I guess given you are a product of the ESPN highlight and "what have you done for me lately" internet forum generation, you can only be expected to think the way you do.
Before you criticize "east baseball," consider this: there were three (3) 1, 2, 3,..... Fargo teams in the state tournament (North, South, Shanley). Bismarck-Mandan, a somewhat comparable metro area had one (1), 1,..... Century. That would say to me that the Fargo Metro Area has more all-around talent than Bismarck???? Shanley can no more be judged by it's less-than-capable showing last weekend than Williston by its greater-than-expected pitching. According to your logic, and given its 3 shutouts last weekend, Williston shouldn't have allowed a run all season and may not give up a run this summer in Legion.
Now, before you continue to run off at the mouth about east baseball, you should take the time to consider what three (3) 1, 2, 3,..... state high school tournament entrants combining for one (1), 1,... Legion team means. I think this summer's Fargo Legion team will show you a thing or two about east baseball.
Now, get back on your horse, or whatever farm animal got you to the public library so you could post and try to get over your western ND inferiority complex. Hockey season is just around the corner. It must be devestating for you.
if there was an applause smiley face i would give it to you. make sure you put your flame suit on quick though.
i have one discrepancy with your view of the fargo legion team though. ill agree that the team is loaded with talent every year because it draws from 3 high schools. but because all these kids are from different schools, the team suffers from a lack of chemistry every year. talent CAN win a state championship (the 2005 fargo legion team was loaded with studs), but when you dont have talent like that, you have to have good chemistry (williston for instance. i didnt think they had any superior talent to anybody but those kids have played together from day 1).
dead ball era wrote:i_see_it_all wrote:congrats to williston on their 1st ever title! 21 scoreless innings, that is amazing! sorenson was a monster and should be the one getting the pitching hype. he killed dickinson and shut the door on south. in my opinion hes the best pitcher in the state right now. egge is also a stud. westphal not coach of the year?
shanley was pathetic, how were they a 2 seed. east baseball
on a side note, the west went 6-2 against the east. i was impressed with south's pitching in the 3 games though.
Long-time viewer, first-time poster -- Hold on now i_see_it_all, I can tell by your demeanor that you are a "youngster." Back in the dead ball era, we measured teams by their season, not by one weekend. That's why baseball usually plays out it's championships in series rather than single-elimination tournaments. But I guess given you are a product of the ESPN highlight and "what have you done for me lately" internet forum generation, you can only be expected to think the way you do.
Before you criticize "east baseball," consider this: there were three (3) 1, 2, 3,..... Fargo teams in the state tournament (North, South, Shanley). Bismarck-Mandan, a somewhat comparable metro area had one (1), 1,..... Century. That would say to me that the Fargo Metro Area has more all-around talent than Bismarck???? Shanley can no more be judged by it's less-than-capable showing last weekend than Williston by its greater-than-expected pitching. According to your logic, and given its 3 shutouts last weekend, Williston shouldn't have allowed a run all season and may not give up a run this summer in Legion.
Now, before you continue to run off at the mouth about east baseball, you should take the time to consider what three (3) 1, 2, 3,..... state high school tournament entrants combining for one (1), 1,... Legion team means. I think this summer's Fargo Legion team will show you a thing or two about east baseball.
Now, get back on your horse, or whatever farm animal got you to the public library so you could post and try to get over your western ND inferiority complex. Hockey season is just around the corner. It must be devestating for you.
i_see_it_all wrote:nice comeback post. you sure proved me that you know so much.
shortsightedness, who says that?
HeHateMe wrote:I for one am deeply touched by this latest post, and furthermore vote to end the hostility between the east and west.
On a lighter note I think you can still attribute the west being slightly better in baseball due to the fact that the east has 2-3 more weeks of snow on the ground then the west, allowing 2-3 more weeks of long toss, game like situations, ground balls, and my favorite, practicing the long ball.... us easterners like to stick with "cage bombs" and the westys prefer the real deal.....
dead ball era wrote:To i_see_it_all : Thank you for proving me right. Your immaturity and shortsightedness is very clear in your last post. You have been very selective in what stats you will discuss and, when backed in a corner, you came up with the old "Fargo should be........" Last time I checked only nine players could play at one time. Granted, having greater numbers from which to select a team makes a huge difference. But your jealously and inferiority v. eastern ND is so very clear. It's an old, tired, hick mentality. Get over it. It is clear to me that the last time you crossed the Missouri River (to the east) was under court order.
And, by the way, the Ralph references get old fast. Does western ND have a first class facility on the level of the Ralph? So, once again, your mention of it shows your inferiority complex.
So, instead of perpetuating this east v. west kick you are on, you need to find something on your level which you can discuss. And, by the way, I will continue to stick to baseball, something I can guarantee you I have more knowledge and experience in given the posts of yours I have read.
dead ball era wrote:s - Please, please, please, take at least some time to review your posts. Some of you are only hitting .350 with your spelling.
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