Region 1 2009-10

[Hardball]

North Sargent over Milnor 62-50. From what I caught on the radio last night, the Bobcats led 11-0 right away, and hung on the rest of the way. 5-1 now the Bobcats, with a good matchup vs. Central Cass in Gwinner on Monday night.

[vballfan06]

Richland doesn't have a whole lot---their skills are pretty limited. However, a kid that scores 29 and attracts a double and triple team every night is the real deal. Seems like she's in the 20-30 range every night. I think she's one of the best post players around, if not the best true post player in region 1.

However, if richland wants to compete, it's pretty obvious that someone else on that team needs to step up and score.

[scoobyx2]

Richland doesn't have a whole lot---their skills are pretty limited. However, a kid that scores 29 and attracts a double and triple team every night is the real deal. Seems like she's in the 20-30 range every night. I think she's one of the best post players around, if not the best true post player in region 1.

However, if richland wants to compete, it's pretty obvious that someone else on that team needs to step up and score.

I agree with you that Johnson is the real deal. Even as an 8th grader, she showed a lot of composure in her game. If you are the only major player on a team in Class B, your opponents are going to double or triple team you, and if you can put up big numbers...you have something. But if she is averaging 20-30 a game as a post player, somebody must be getting her the ball. Any hope there?

[ClassBEast]

At least they have good numbers then. There aren't many girls programs that have a c-squad anymore....basically unheard of up in my area.

Central Cass C-squad is made up of one 7th grader, one freshman and the rest are 8th graders, so we don't have the high school numbers either.

[ndlionsfan]

don't they have a JH team?

[ClassBEast]

don't they have a JH team?

Yes, we had two 7th grade teams and two 8th grade teams but finished up the JH season and moved some girls up to C-Squad.

[ndlionsfan]

Oh I see, down in that area they play JH before the HS season. Up in my area JH is played during the HS season.

[Ginsbach]

At least they have good numbers then. There aren't many girls programs that have a c-squad anymore....basically unheard of up in my area.

Central Cass C-squad is made up of one 7th grader, one freshman and the rest are 8th graders, so we don't have the high school numbers either.

Numbers and participation are two completely different things.

As of 2006, Central Cass had 248 students in grades 9-12. Looking at the population growth of this area over the past 3 years, it's safe to say that the numbers have gone up since then.

Other region 1 schools in 2006?
Richland: 120
Maple Valley: 97
FCT: 38 + 39 = 77
Sargent Central: 87

Central Cass has 2 to 3 times the amount of students as some of these schools, and like I said, these are old numbers. Populations are falling in Fairmount, Forman, Buffalo, Abercrombie, etc. Especially compared to the growth in bedroom communities of FM like Mapleton and Casselton.

It would be more appropriate to say "participation is down", since the student numbers are more than high enough to support a C squad.

[ClassBEast]

At least they have good numbers then. There aren't many girls programs that have a c-squad anymore....basically unheard of up in my area.

Central Cass C-squad is made up of one 7th grader, one freshman and the rest are 8th graders, so we don't have the high school numbers either.

Numbers and participation are two completely different things.

As of 2006, Central Cass had 248 students in grades 9-12. Looking at the population growth of this area over the past 3 years, it's safe to say that the numbers have gone up since then.

Other region 1 schools in 2006?
Richland: 120
Maple Valley: 97
FCT: 38 + 39 = 77
Sargent Central: 87

Central Cass has 2 to 3 times the amount of students as some of these schools, and like I said, these are old numbers. Populations are falling in Fairmount, Forman, Buffalo, Abercrombie, etc. Especially compared to the growth in bedroom communities of FM like Mapleton and Casselton.

It would be more appropriate to say "participation is down", since the student numbers are more than high enough to support a C squad.

Absolutely. Participation is down in girls basketball at Central Cass... has been for several years. I don't think we're alone. I certainly wasn't trying to indicate we didn't have the numbers because of population... it is purely interest. As indicated by the two 7th grade and two 8th grade teams, we have plenty of girls, but they drop off quite a bit once they reach high school. In volleyball we actually have to cut girls, but I don't think we've ever had to do that for basketball.

[ndlionsfan]

That's the same everywhere....for some reason interest in girls bball is way down.

[Sportsrube]

That's the same everywhere....for some reason interest in girls bball is way down.

I have noticed a decline in numbers for a lot GBB programs too, could the switch of seasons have anything to do with this? Maybe the girls don't like playing second fiddle to the boys in BB I really don't know - and it may be a different reason for each program but its something that should be looked into.

[shoelace]

...Or perhaps the coach is a factor. I know of several parents upset because they feel their freshman daughters were forced to not go out because they were not as advanced as the other girls in their grade. I understand that some freshmen girls went out, but several that were signed up didn't end up going out. I understand the girls cannot be told to "not go out" but many girls, especially younger ones, can be quite timid and scared of an aggressive coach. I found it to be quite a disappointment of the small numbers Central Cass has in girls basketball for having such a great program. Perhaps a coach should also pay some attention to the future and not be so selfish and turn girls away from the sport.

[vballfan06]

Eh, this just comes down to the participation vs. competition discussion. Good, winning programs put their best kids on the floor. This has been discussed over and over again. But, too many kids (or parents) get upset when their kid rides the pine.
Kraft has done a fantastic job as the girls basketball coach at Central Cass. Yes they have more numbers in the high school, and yes, that often turns into better athletes to choose from. However, her kids are classy on the court, play tough defense, and are patient on offense.
I would love to have my kid play for her.

[scoobyx2]

...Or perhaps the coach is a factor. I know of several parents upset because they feel their freshman daughters were forced to not go out because they were not as advanced as the other girls in their grade. I understand that some freshmen girls went out, but several that were signed up didn't end up going out. I understand the girls cannot be told to "not go out" but many girls, especially younger ones, can be quite timid and scared of an aggressive coach. I found it to be quite a disappointment of the small numbers Central Cass has in girls basketball for having such a great program. Perhaps a coach should also pay some attention to the future and not be so selfish and turn girls away from the sport.

I am not a big Central Cass fan, but before Coach Kraft ran their program, they were lucky to even make it to Regionals, and they are and have been 1 of the biggest Class B school in the state. Now they are state ranked and a serious contender in Region 1. The parents need to tell their kids that if they are going to be real ball players, they need to work hard and take criticism, and work with the program they have. Many young high schoolers and their parents think that the coach should accommodate them so they play. They want equal playing time, see conditioning as punishment, etc. I can't speak for the CC coach, but I would rather coach 6 or 7 girls who I know want to win, than 20 girls who will quit in a second.

[BBfan16]

In response to shoelace, you are what is wrong with issues like this. By saying I heard something from a parent and taking it for a fact and then repeating it as a fact. The fact is all the kids were given the same speech of what was expected and if they didn't want to put in the time then maybe they shouldn't go out. Funny how the blame always goes to the coach in these situations. There is nothing wrong if a kid doesn't want to go out for a sport or any activity, because to be good at anything you need to put in the time to get better. What is wrong is when a parent lets the kid or even themselves blame someone else for the fact they don't do the work.

[ClassBEast]

Central Cass had a nice win over FCT tonight, 55 - 38.

FCT lost to Hankinson by 1 point on a last second shot, so hopefully Central Cass will be able to avenge their regular season loss to them at Regionals. It looks like they should be able to compete with Hankinson better than they did earlier this season.

Central Cass 55,
Fairmount-Campbell-Tintah 38

FCT 5 11 24 38
CC 12 27 40 55

FCT: J. Campbell 7, Wik 2, K. Campbell 16, Church 11.
CC: Camas 4, Voss 3, Kraft 14, Gegelman 6, Roesler 6, Breske 14, Dixon 8.

[Flip]

I understand the girls cannot be told to "not go out" but many girls, especially younger ones, can be quite timid and scared of an aggressive coach. I found it to be quite a disappointment of the small numbers Central Cass has in girls basketball for having such a great program. Perhaps a coach should also pay some attention to the future and not be so selfish and turn girls away from the sport.

The girls that are "quite timid" are not "the future" of any program. How is the coach being "selfish"? I don't understand.

[vballfan06]

How about enderlin? I just saw in the forum today that they are 7-1. Are they flying under the radar? Weak early schedule? Anyone watched them play?

[Run4Fun2009]

very weak early schedule...best team that they have played was Griggs County Central (5-5) which was their loss...best team that they have beat was Oak Grove (5-4) and they almost blew it.

[vballfan06]

ok ok...oak grove has surprised me. I really think Holt the 8th grader is their best ball player. Skills...are not so good. But their coach gets alot out of what he has. It's fun when you see that.

[Run4Fun2009]

ok ok...oak grove has surprised me. I really think Holt the 8th grader is their best ball player. Skills...are not so good. But their coach gets alot out of what he has. It's fun when you see that.

I totally agree, however Junior Logan Selisker is IMO the best player on the team...I don't think anyone expected them to be above .500 going into the Shiloh New Years Invite this weekend. It doesn't look good for them against #6 Dickinson Trinity...but Saturday's game against Bismarck Shiloh Christian should be a win.

[ClassBEast]

Hankinson 52,
Lidgerwood-Wyndmere 48

H 14 26 38 52
LW 7 21 36 48

H: Geffre 18, Wahl 14, Titus 6, Pankow 5, L. Stein 4, B. Stein 2, Westphal 2.
LW: Fuka 15, Oster 12, Grumbo 8, Skroch 4, Muehlberg 4, Mauch 3, Aker 2.

What happened here? Did Hankinson just play really, really poorly? Central Cass beat Lidgerwood-Wyndmere 67 - 21 (yet we lost to Hankinson by 18). Did Hankinson just play really well against Central Cass and they're really not that good?

[Run4Fun2009]

Hankinson 52,
Lidgerwood-Wyndmere 48

H 14 26 38 52
LW 7 21 36 48

H: Geffre 18, Wahl 14, Titus 6, Pankow 5, L. Stein 4, B. Stein 2, Westphal 2.
LW: Fuka 15, Oster 12, Grumbo 8, Skroch 4, Muehlberg 4, Mauch 3, Aker 2.

What happened here? Did Hankinson just play really, really poorly? Central Cass beat Lidgerwood-Wyndmere 67 - 21 (yet we lost to Hankinson by 18). Did Hankinson just play really well against Central Cass and they're really not that good?

I don't know but Oak Grove just beat L-W by 6 points (or so)?? WEIRD!

[ClassBEast]

Central Cass handed FSHP their second loss of the season tonight...

Central Cass 55,
Finley-Sharon-Hope-Page 35

CC 18 36 47 55
F-S-H-P 4 14 27 35

CC: Camas 5, Voss 6, Kraft 19, Gegelman 4, Roesler 2, Breske 4, Dixon 15.
F-S-H-P: Krueger 15, Palmer 3, Montag 9, Erbstoesser 1, Leadbetter 3, Tysdal 4.

[Ginsbach]

Hankinson 52,
Lidgerwood-Wyndmere 48

H 14 26 38 52
LW 7 21 36 48

H: Geffre 18, Wahl 14, Titus 6, Pankow 5, L. Stein 4, B. Stein 2, Westphal 2.
LW: Fuka 15, Oster 12, Grumbo 8, Skroch 4, Muehlberg 4, Mauch 3, Aker 2.

What happened here? Did Hankinson just play really, really poorly? Central Cass beat Lidgerwood-Wyndmere 67 - 21 (yet we lost to Hankinson by 18). Did Hankinson just play really well against Central Cass and they're really not that good?

Rivalry game.

Lidgerwood and Fairmount always play Hankinson close, no matter how the teams are doing that season.