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2011-12 Polls

Postby Run4Fun2009 » Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:30 am

1. Carrington (13) 2-0 139
2. Grafton 1-0 107
3. Central Cass (1) 1-0 93
4. Grant County 1-0 90
5. Minot Ryan 2-0 85
6. Linton-HMB 2-0 73
7. Central Valley 2-0 56
8. Thompson 2-0 44
9. Beach 1-1 24
10. Napoleon 0-1 14

Other receiving votes: Hazen (2-0), Midway-Minto (2-0), Stanley (0-2), Kindred (1-0), Fordville-Lankin-Park River (2-0), New Town (0-0), Divide County (0-1), Lakota-Adams-Edmore (2-0).
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Re: 2011-12 Polls

Postby rock83 » Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:23 am

Nothing against Central Cass but whoever voted for anyone but Carrington for the Number One team in the state should have their voting rights taken away. Carrington is very good this year and at least at this point in the year no one else compares. Also there isnt any other decent teams in the state so we vote for Stanley in the first poll even if they are 0-2. If a team is very dominant and they play two very good teams but get beat i can understand it. But Stanley isnt that team.

Run4Fun2009 wrote:1. Carrington (13) 2-0 139
2. Grafton 1-0 107
3. Central Cass (1) 1-0 93
4. Grant County 1-0 90
5. Minot Ryan 2-0 85
6. Linton-HMB 2-0 73
7. Central Valley 2-0 56
8. Thompson 2-0 44
9. Beach 1-1 24
10. Napoleon 0-1 14

Other receiving votes: Hazen (2-0), Midway-Minto (2-0), Stanley (0-2), Kindred (1-0), Fordville-Lankin-Park River (2-0), New Town (0-0), Divide County (0-1), Lakota-Adams-Edmore (2-0).
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Re: 2011-12 Polls

Postby nduser1 » Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:28 pm

That is pretty harsh words against a team from Central Cass that has been number 2 in state two years in a row? I have not seen either team play a lot but I know they play each other (carrington vs cchs) Jan. 13th so that should be very interesting I suppose. I know CCHS has a 6ft plus girl to match up with Thompson so maybe she is not such a factor?
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Re: 2011-12 Polls

Postby rock83 » Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:47 pm

Not being harsh, didnt say anything against central cass. Carrington is that good. They have pretty much everyone back from a team that was pretty dominant last year. If that 6 ft girl is experienced and skilled you could be right.

nduser1 wrote:That is pretty harsh words against a team from Central Cass that has been number 2 in state two years in a row? I have not seen either team play a lot but I know they play each other (carrington vs cchs) Jan. 13th so that should be very interesting I suppose. I know CCHS has a 6ft plus girl to match up with Thompson so maybe she is not such a factor?
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Re: 2011-12 Polls

Postby Chowda » Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:34 pm

rock83 wrote:Not being harsh, didnt say anything against central cass. Carrington is that good. They have pretty much everyone back from a team that was pretty dominant last year. If that 6 ft girl is experienced and skilled you could be right.

nduser1 wrote:That is pretty harsh words against a team from Central Cass that has been number 2 in state two years in a row? I have not seen either team play a lot but I know they play each other (carrington vs cchs) Jan. 13th so that should be very interesting I suppose. I know CCHS has a 6ft plus girl to match up with Thompson so maybe she is not such a factor?


Polls are joke, nobody cares abou them, but parents. Coaches could careless about them because they have no meaning. Now only if we could straighten out the all-state voting. Why in the world would be let media vote for all-state. Its a complete joke.
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Postby wolves65 » Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:05 pm

hold on rock, it is early yet to be giving the trophy to Carrington. If that was the case last year then Central Cass would have won the trophy last year after they beat Carrington in January. Sounds like Midkota all over again in volleyball, they beat Central Cass in September and didn't close the deal in NOvember but still heard the statement that the best team got 3rd place. The best team is who is the last one standing at the end of the year not who get voted #1 in December or wins a game in Jan-feb..

Stanley is getting votes because most people don't know that the Pappa sisters and Dewalder are not out for basketball. they are a totally different team now.
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Re: 2011-12 Polls

Postby ClassBEast » Sun Dec 18, 2011 11:28 pm

# 3 Central Cass plays # 7 Central Valley on Tuesday. It should be a good early season test for both teams!

Central Cass wins by 10 - 56 to 46.
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Re: 2011-12 Polls

Postby Run4Fun2009 » Mon Dec 19, 2011 7:37 pm

Poll #2
December 19th, 2011

1. Carrington (13) 3-0 130
2. Grafton 3-0 101
3. Central Cass 3-0 97
4. Grant County 4-0 83
5. Bishop Ryan 4-0 76
6. Central Valley 4-0 56
6. Linton-HMB 3-0 56
8. Thompson 4-0 55
9. Beach 3-1 16
10. New Town 4-0 16

Others Receiving Votes: Lakota-Adams-Edmore (4-0), Watford City (3-0), Napoleon (1-2), Kindred (3-0), Hatton-Northwood (2-0), Midkota (2-1), New Rockford-Sheyenne (4-0), Northern Cass (3-0).
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Re: 2011-12 Polls

Postby Wildcat » Thu Dec 22, 2011 2:34 pm

Chowda wrote:
rock83 wrote:Not being harsh, didnt say anything against central cass. Carrington is that good. They have pretty much everyone back from a team that was pretty dominant last year. If that 6 ft girl is experienced and skilled you could be right.

nduser1 wrote:That is pretty harsh words against a team from Central Cass that has been number 2 in state two years in a row? I have not seen either team play a lot but I know they play each other (carrington vs cchs) Jan. 13th so that should be very interesting I suppose. I know CCHS has a 6ft plus girl to match up with Thompson so maybe she is not such a factor?


Polls are joke, nobody cares abou them, but parents. Coaches could careless about them because they have no meaning. Now only if we could straighten out the all-state voting. Why in the world would be let media vote for all-state. Its a complete joke.


Yeah, let's take the media out back and kick the tar outta them. That'll make you feel better. It seems like no matter what they do, your favorite player never gets voted on. It's too bad. The coaches should vote all-state like in football when a standout sophomore or a kid with a small attitude problem, but with loads of talent misses out on the team in favor of a barely above average senior. Yeah, coaches aren't biased at all.
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Re: 2011-12 Polls

Postby Wildcat » Thu Dec 22, 2011 2:37 pm

Sarcasm aside, it should be noted that the all-state teams belong to the media, like the Mr. basketball award.

If the coaches want to do their own team, I'm sure they're welcome to. Just like if the media wanted to do their own all-state football team, they could. Postseason awards are overrated anyways.
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Re: 2011-12 Polls

Postby Hinsa » Thu Dec 22, 2011 4:28 pm

Postseason awards are overrated to those who don't get them. To those who do get them, it is quite an honor.

Question: if they are overrated, why do so many people squawk so loud about them?
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Re: 2011-12 Polls

Postby Wildcat » Fri Dec 23, 2011 12:28 am

I didn't say they aren't important. I just said they're overrated.

A great question, Hinsa. I wish I had an answer for you. Let me know when you find one.
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Re: 2011-12 Polls

Postby Hinsa » Fri Dec 23, 2011 2:33 pm

Not trying to be a pain. The obvious answer to me is because they ARE important to most people. I was just pointing out that the ones that usually complain about them are the ones that think they got cheated out of the award and they tend to try to lessen their disappointment by downplaying the importance of the award.
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Re: 2011-12 Polls

Postby Wildcat » Fri Dec 23, 2011 9:54 pm

Yeah, I understand where you're coming from, Hinsa. My thing is just that all-state and that stuff, that's all extra stuff that serves as a fun by-product of playing the game, winning and accomplishing team goals.

If you're good, you're good. You shouldn't need a bunch of newspaper guys, tv people and radio voices making sure everyone knows your good by making sure you get all-state. If that's the high point of your season or happens to be what you value most, then that might serve as a good reason as to why your team didn't get very far.

Again, not saying they're not important. Only saying they should be thought of as fun by-products of playing the game.
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Re: bRe: 2011-12 Polls

Postby Indy5 » Sat Dec 24, 2011 4:42 pm

wolves65 wrote:Stanley is getting votes because most people don't know that the Pappa sisters and Dewalder are not out for basketball. they are a totally different team now.

Do you know why they aren't playing?
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Re: 2011-12 Polls

Postby Run4Fun2009 » Tue Dec 27, 2011 1:27 am

3rd Poll
(12/26/11)

1. Carrington (10) 4-0 100
2. Grafton 4-0 83
3. Central Cass 5-0 81
4. Bishop Ryan 6-0 64
5. Grant County 5-0 62
6. Thompson 5-0 46
7. Linton-HMB 4-0 41
8. Central Valley 4-1 23
9. New Town 5-0 21
10. Beach 4-1 15

Others Receiving Votes: Hatton-Northwood (4-0), Kindred (5-0), Midkota (3-1), Napoleon (2-2)
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Re: 2011-12 Polls

Postby Run4Fun2009 » Mon Jan 02, 2012 8:40 pm

4th Poll

(1/2/12)

1. Carrington (10) 6-0 100
2. Central Cass 6-0 85
3. Grafton 4-1 75
4. Bishop Ryan 6-0 66
5. Grant County 5-0 55
6. Thompson 5-0 51
7. Linton-HMB 4-0 41
8. Central Valley 4-1 30
9. New Town 5-0 21
10. Beach 5-1 17

Others Receiving Votes: Velva (5-0), Kindred (6-0), Northern Cass (3-0), Hatton-Northwood (5-1), Napoleon (3-2).
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Re: 2011-12 Polls

Postby Run4Fun2009 » Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:46 pm

5th Poll
(01/09/12)

1. Carrington (13) 7-0 130
2. Central Cass 6-0 112
3. Bishop Ryan 7-0 93
4. Grafton 6-1 88
5. Grant County 7-0 83
6. Thompson 6-0 67
7. New Town 6-0 33
8. Beach 6-1 27
9. Kindred 8-0 26
10. Velva 7-0 22

Other Receiving Votes: Linton-HMB (6-1), Central Valley (6-2), Northern Cass (5-0), Hatton-Northwood (7-1), Napoleon (5-2), New Rockford-Sheyenne (7-1).
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Re: 2011-12 Polls

Postby ND_beast » Mon Jan 16, 2012 9:47 pm

6th Poll
1/16/12

1. Central Cass (12) 9-0 120
2. Carrington 8-1 100
3. Bishop Ryan 8-0 99
4. Grafton 9-1 79
5. New Town 9-0 67
6. Kindred 11-0 55
7. Beach 9-1 40
8. Thompson 7-1 33
9. Grant County 8-1 27
10. Central Valley 8-2 24

Others receiving votes: Velva (9-1), Lakota-Adams-Edmore (9-1), Linton-HMB (8-2), Midkota (6-1).
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Re: 2011-12 Polls

Postby blindside2 » Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:07 am

Chowda wrote:
rock83 wrote:Not being harsh, didnt say anything against central cass. Carrington is that good. They have pretty much everyone back from a team that was pretty dominant last year. If that 6 ft girl is experienced and skilled you could be right.

nduser1 wrote:That is pretty harsh words against a team from Central Cass that has been number 2 in state two years in a row? I have not seen either team play a lot but I know they play each other (carrington vs cchs) Jan. 13th so that should be very interesting I suppose. I know CCHS has a 6ft plus girl to match up with Thompson so maybe she is not such a factor?


Polls are joke, nobody cares abou them, but parents. Coaches could careless about them because they have no meaning. Now only if we could straighten out the all-state voting. Why in the world would be let media vote for all-state. Its a complete joke.



Just another reason why polls shouldn't be looked at like they are the gospel is because only sportswriters that are members of the Associated Press can vote. so a lot of small town sport writers that cover these small towns and actually know the teams don't have a chance to vote.
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Re: 2011-12 Polls

Postby q » Sun Jan 22, 2012 11:06 am

blindside2 wrote:
Chowda wrote:
rock83 wrote:Not being harsh, didnt say anything against central cass. Carrington is that good. They have pretty much everyone back from a team that was pretty dominant last year. If that 6 ft girl is experienced and skilled you could be right.

nduser1 wrote:That is pretty harsh words against a team from Central Cass that has been number 2 in state two years in a row? I have not seen either team play a lot but I know they play each other (carrington vs cchs) Jan. 13th so that should be very interesting I suppose. I know CCHS has a 6ft plus girl to match up with Thompson so maybe she is not such a factor?


Polls are joke, nobody cares abou them, but parents. Coaches could careless about them because they have no meaning. Now only if we could straighten out the all-state voting. Why in the world would be let media vote for all-state. Its a complete joke.



Just another reason why polls shouldn't be looked at like they are the gospel is because only sportswriters that are members of the Associated Press can vote. so a lot of small town sport writers that cover these small towns and actually know the teams don't have a chance to vote.

Hate to break it to you...
Sportscasters and sportswriters who are members of the NDAPSSA have the opportunity to vote. AP membership is not required. Voting is not limited to the larger communities.
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Re: 2011-12 Polls

Postby Run4Fun2009 » Mon Jan 23, 2012 11:03 pm

7th Poll
1/23/12

1. Central Cass (13) 11-0 130
2. Carrington 10-1 111
3. Bishop Ryan 12-0 104
4. Grafton 10-1 87
5. New Town 11-0 81
6. Kindred 12-0 67
7. Thompson 9-1 40
8. Grant County 11-1 28
9. Central Valley 10-2 25
10. Beach 10-2 21

Others Receiving Votes: Velva (11-1), Midkota (8-1), Linton-HMB (9-2).
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Re: 2011-12 Polls

Postby lovwatchingsports » Tue Jan 24, 2012 4:37 pm

Run4Fun2009 wrote:7th Poll
1/23/12

1. Central Cass (13) 11-0 130
2. Carrington 10-1 111
3. Bishop Ryan 12-0 104
4. Grafton 10-1 87
5. New Town 11-0 81
6. Kindred 12-0 67
7. Thompson 9-1 40
8. Grant County 11-1 28
9. Central Valley 10-2 25
10. Beach 10-2 21

Others Receiving Votes: Velva (11-1), Midkota (8-1), Linton-HMB (9-2).

With Velva beating Ryan what happens to the poll? Does Ryan move down or Velva up or a combination of the two?
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Re: 2011-12 Polls

Postby Run4Fun2009 » Tue Jan 24, 2012 4:41 pm

lovwatchingsports wrote:
Run4Fun2009 wrote:7th Poll
1/23/12

1. Central Cass (13) 11-0 130
2. Carrington 10-1 111
3. Bishop Ryan 12-0 104
4. Grafton 10-1 87
5. New Town 11-0 81
6. Kindred 12-0 67
7. Thompson 9-1 40
8. Grant County 11-1 28
9. Central Valley 10-2 25
10. Beach 10-2 21

Others Receiving Votes: Velva (11-1), Midkota (8-1), Linton-HMB (9-2).

With Velva beating Ryan what happens to the poll? Does Ryan move down or Velva up or a combination of the two?


Its hard to tell how far down Bishop Ryan moves (or how high up Velva moves)...IMO it is dependant on how the #6 Kindred vs. #1 Central Cass matchup goes on Saturday (also the #1 Central Cass vs. RV Linton-HMB game tonight). Saturday night we'll have a better idea where teams may move to.
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Re: 2011-12 Polls

Postby nduser1 » Tue Jan 24, 2012 4:45 pm

Central Cass has some very interesting and poll changing games in the next several weeks. Tough schedule to end the year. Hope it does not get them exhausted for end of season!?
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