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Re: 2009 State Girls B Basketball
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Wed Mar 11, 2009 3:16 pmby bigpoppakdog
this has to do with 2009 state girls bb?
Re: 2009 State Girls B Basketball
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Wed Mar 11, 2009 3:18 pmby north_border_eagles2106
baseball wrote:There has to be lines somewhere though. if you do it just to prepare them for college, then youll have to put it in for jr high to get them ready for high school. and then elementary ball to get them ready for jr high. how many players are there in class B? how many are going to play college ball? maybe 8-10 wll play at some level. maybe its just me but i would much rather see a rule that says a team cant play a half court zone defense before a shot clock. adapt some form of illegal defense rule like the NBA.
No you don't need to put it in for Junior High or Elementary, let's get serious here. Why would class b in north dakota ever adopt a rule that is similar to that of the NBA? How many players from Class B in North Dakota have EVER played in the NBA? I just don't understand why everyone is against it so hard. It seems like all the people against it think it's bad for the game. Every other level of even high school baseketball that is higher than the B level has a shot clock and nobody complains about it there. It would make games so much more fun to watch cause you have to use much more strategy rather than the only strategy of sit on the ball and make them foul us or we get the last shot.
Re: 2009 State Girls B Basketball
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Wed Mar 11, 2009 3:20 pmby north_border_eagles2106
bigpoppakdog wrote:this has to do with 2009 state girls bb?
Well it started out because we were talking how the end of the championship would've changed with a shot clock and now everyone but me, is saying why we don't need one.
Re: 2009 State Girls B Basketball
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Wed Mar 11, 2009 4:22 pmby tingly
There's more talent in Class A which lets the shot clock better serves its purpose. As long as it means the worst Class B teams would hardly get a shot off, shot clocks would be more detrimental than helpful. If there's a sudden rash of 4-2 games, the balance might swing the shot clock's way.
Re: 2009 State Girls B Basketball
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Thu Mar 12, 2009 7:45 amby Hoot12
I was at a tournment in Grafton this year when FLPR was playing and the shot clock was being used. The clock had little if any effect on a fast tempo playing team as FLPR is (good or bad) but it did have an impact on those team that walked the ball up the court and setup up a specific play everytime.
I think that you get more individual creativity and less of an impact from the coaching when there is a shot clock. On the other hand I think you get more of a disciplined game and coach driven styple with out a shot clock.
Regardless if you have a shot clock or not the teams and coaching styles will adjust. Personally I would like to see a shot clock.
Re: 2009 State Girls B Basketball
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Fri Mar 13, 2009 12:39 pmby HometownHigh
Hoot12 wrote:I was at a tournment in Grafton this year when FLPR was playing and the shot clock was being used. The clock had little if any effect on a fast tempo playing team(debatable) as FLPR is (good or bad) but it did have an impact on those team that walked the ball up the court did you see NDSU/Oakland? NOT ONCE did the Oakland guard run up the floor with the ball, he walked so slow he almost fell over a couple times, and I think they were using a shot clock!? and setup up a specific play everytime.
I think that you get more individual (Individuality ? - this is a TEAM sport...)creativity and less of an impact from the coaching when there is a shot clock So save the big $ spent on coaches, then you can afford a shot clock !. On the other hand I think you get more of a disciplined game keyword - this is a GAME. If its just a contest to see how many shots you can make in a certain amount of time, line up players in a circle and shoot until the clock runs out. You now have a winner, but you never played a GAME.and coach driven styple with out a shot clock.
Regardless if you have a shot clock or not the teams and coaching styles will adjust. ADJUST - yeah, adjust the competition right out of the game. Personally I would like to see a shot clock.
Re: 2009 State Girls B Basketball
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Fri Mar 13, 2009 12:50 pmby ndlionsfan
So are you for or against the shot clock HometownHigh? Some of your comments seem like you favor it, but others seem like you don't. I honestly don't think a shot clock would change anything in class b basketball. The only time it will come into play is at the end of a quarter, half, or game when the leading team is forced to take a shot. Other than that people will not even know its there.
However, I am against having a shot clock in class b. It is not because it will change the game or because the game needs changing and its not because of costs to the smaller schools. It's the fact that you need to find someone with the knowledge and willingness to run it. In these smaller class b schools (basically all of them that would be in the lower class of a 3 class plan) have enough trouble finding someone to run the clock at the home games, which is much easier than running a shot clock as far as knowledge goes. Trust me, I have been in the position of having to find a clock keeper for 15-20 games in a year (30-40 if you count JV) and that is a tough task in intself. I can't imagine having to find 2 for each game!
Re: 2009 State Girls B Basketball
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Fri Mar 13, 2009 1:22 pmby HometownHigh
Against.
With a shot clock, we may as well "roll up the streets, turn off the one stoplight, and move to the big city (LOL) and play Class A basketball".
Where its a different game, altogether. With different heads/hearts/fans/players
Re: 2009 State Girls B Basketball
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Fri Mar 13, 2009 2:16 pmby luvmy3gbb1wr
HometownHigh wrote:Against.
With a shot clock, we may as well "roll up the streets, turn off the one stoplight, and move to the big city (LOL) and play Class A basketball".
Where its a different game, altogether. With different heads/hearts/fans/players
amen
Re: 2009 State Girls B Basketball
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Fri Mar 13, 2009 2:52 pmby bigpoppakdog
Actually, that's probably the best statement I've heard. Class B is different, keep it different. We are starting to see the big city schools coming back down to an even level, so maybe Class B still has a chance to get back to its roots.
Re: 2009 State Girls B Basketball
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Thu Feb 18, 2016 1:35 pmby Flip
Why was FLPR the Flyers back in the day and when did they switch to PRFL Aggies?