baseball wrote:brfan wrote:i dont think that shlioh will be that good they lost tanner freisen
didnt they start 4 sophomores with him? that experiance in the state tourney will make them better
dominationSCS wrote:they should be alright tanner did take more shots than the rest of the team combined(no joke) so we'll see how it looks w/o him most likely struggle but its not like their region is really tough defintely have a shot at state again
When u have a good coach he can make even bad players average and make ok players amazing. A coach is what makes a school consistent. Strasberg will still win because they have a decent coach too, but they return a lot of talent. Steele will be interesting they have Randall then 2 jrs and 2 sophmores that are decent. Randall of course coming off a great season will be the leader but the young talent will need to step up they will be extremely young and inexperience.baller01 wrote:Sports guy wrote:baller01 wrote:jumpshot22 wrote:I agree with the Region 3 picks for next season. Out of District 5 I pick Lamoure to win the championship over BCN. District 6 I see Linton once againg coming out on top over Strasburg-Zeeland. Region 3 will finally see Lamoure winning the crown.
Region 3
#1 Lamoure
#2 Linton
#3 Strasburg-Zeeland
#4 BCN
PS BCN loses many Seniors (Beau Sizer) but also returns 2 starters in Bartlett and Heinze. Look for them to compete again next year just not getting to the top. 2006-07 was the year for the Bison. Look for them to compete again in 2008-09 for the Region Title.
State Ranking I see Lamoure being ranked as high as #2 or #3 in some preseason polls for next season. My predictions they will be put at #4 or #5.
I think I would switch Linton and Strasburg around. If Heinze and Bartlett step up there game next year like I'm sure they will, they will be very tough to beat. Between Strasburg and BCN there are 5 really good freshmen. It will be interesting to see what region 3 will be like in 2010 with Randall from Steele, the 3 from Strasburg, and the 2 from BCN. LaMoure wins this region next year by at least 15.
LaMoure will run District 5 come Tournament Time cause anything can happen but i see them taking it .District 6 Will Be Linton cause of Purintun and Dan Carr. LaMoure and Linton in Championship. That game is up for grabs.
Region 3 will have some good teams in Strasburg,Steele,BCN for the upcoming seasons. A very good Freshman class should be an interesting Region in 2010
Ok, one ok player and one great coach isn't going to make up for the lack of talent and experience that the Lion's will have next year. Strasburg returns 3 of the 4 top freshmen in the district, a veteran coach, and possibly the best junior in the distirct in Satheren. Strasburg vs LaMoure in the regional championship game with LaMoure winning the region easily.
magic715 wrote:TOP 10 for next yr: i havnt looked real close yet but my early top 10 list would be:
1) Hazen 2) Bishop Ryan 3) Watford City 4)Shiloh Christian 5) Lamoure 6) Lisbon
7) Grafton 8) Dunseith 9) Divide County 10) Fargo Oak Grove, i am sure i am missing
a team from the east as i do not know them as well, but i will start it
parshall could easily beat divide county next year
baller99 wrote:I can guarantee you that Shiloh Cristian will not be #4 and to me shouldn't even be in the top 25!
Kleinsasser seems to do fine at least i think. He yells quite a bit, but i think its just his style of coaching. Thou, these last 2 years hes had decent teams they always seem to lack disipline which u learn from your coach. This next year will be interesting i still see them doing well thou because of all the talent.rep wrote:one thing i have wondered with the strasburg coaching situation...do you think it hurts or helps both the girls' and boys' teams that kleinsasser coaches both?
honestly, i can't imagine how much time that man puts into both teams...it just seems like a pretty large load for one guy to shoulder and i would worry that come then end of the season he is absolutely drained.
on the other hand, i think he's got what...a couple of decades of coaching experience on his side, so he probably knows how to grind through a season and when to perk himself up. seems like every coach you talk to, if you need a reason to get excited at the end of the year, you probably shouldn't be there. so just with it being tourney time that would probably re-energize him.
lightning wrote:Kleinsasser seems to do fine at least i think. He yells quite a bit, but i think its just his style of coaching. Thou, these last 2 years hes had decent teams they always seem to lack disipline which u learn from your coach. This next year will be interesting i still see them doing well thou because of all the talent.rep wrote:one thing i have wondered with the strasburg coaching situation...do you think it hurts or helps both the girls' and boys' teams that kleinsasser coaches both?
honestly, i can't imagine how much time that man puts into both teams...it just seems like a pretty large load for one guy to shoulder and i would worry that come then end of the season he is absolutely drained.
on the other hand, i think he's got what...a couple of decades of coaching experience on his side, so he probably knows how to grind through a season and when to perk himself up. seems like every coach you talk to, if you need a reason to get excited at the end of the year, you probably shouldn't be there. so just with it being tourney time that would probably re-energize him.
baller01 wrote:lightning wrote:Kleinsasser seems to do fine at least i think. He yells quite a bit, but i think its just his style of coaching. Thou, these last 2 years hes had decent teams they always seem to lack disipline which u learn from your coach. This next year will be interesting i still see them doing well thou because of all the talent.rep wrote:one thing i have wondered with the strasburg coaching situation...do you think it hurts or helps both the girls' and boys' teams that kleinsasser coaches both?
honestly, i can't imagine how much time that man puts into both teams...it just seems like a pretty large load for one guy to shoulder and i would worry that come then end of the season he is absolutely drained.
on the other hand, i think he's got what...a couple of decades of coaching experience on his side, so he probably knows how to grind through a season and when to perk himself up. seems like every coach you talk to, if you need a reason to get excited at the end of the year, you probably shouldn't be there. so just with it being tourney time that would probably re-energize him.
That discipline sometimes goes deeper then just the coach. But I agree. If they had some discipline they would be better. But then again, that "free" style of play is there game.
ND_Coach wrote:baller01 wrote:lightning wrote:Kleinsasser seems to do fine at least i think. He yells quite a bit, but i think its just his style of coaching. Thou, these last 2 years hes had decent teams they always seem to lack disipline which u learn from your coach. This next year will be interesting i still see them doing well thou because of all the talent.rep wrote:one thing i have wondered with the strasburg coaching situation...do you think it hurts or helps both the girls' and boys' teams that kleinsasser coaches both?
honestly, i can't imagine how much time that man puts into both teams...it just seems like a pretty large load for one guy to shoulder and i would worry that come then end of the season he is absolutely drained.
on the other hand, i think he's got what...a couple of decades of coaching experience on his side, so he probably knows how to grind through a season and when to perk himself up. seems like every coach you talk to, if you need a reason to get excited at the end of the year, you probably shouldn't be there. so just with it being tourney time that would probably re-energize him.
That discipline sometimes goes deeper then just the coach. But I agree. If they had some discipline they would be better. But then again, that "free" style of play is there game.
The coaching situation in Strasburg hurts both programs. It is impossible to commit the time necessary to truely run a program when you are coaching two programs in the same season.
Kleinsasser's style is more than yelling a lot. It also includes berating and putting the players down. This is a large reason they lack discipline, because none of the players respect him as a coach.
They will be a good team next year because they have a lot of talent but they will never reach their full potential. On talent alone they can probally have 2 20 win seasons in the next 3 years.
Kleinsasser's style is more than yelling a lot. It also includes berating and putting the players down. This is a large reason they lack discipline, because none of the players respect him as a coach.
They will be a good team next year because they have a lot of talent but they will never reach their full potential. On talent alone they can probally have 2 20 win seasons in the next 3 years.
I beg to differ. It is called tough love...
A smart player would use it as motivation and quit whinning about it. I personally don't argee with Kleinsasser's coaching style, however I think the man knows more about basketball than he is given credit for. At least the man doesn't call a timeout and tell his players he has no clue what to do, or doesn't get a play drawn up. That really gives the kids confidence. It's all in how one looks at it, you can either whine and think nothing of the guy, or use it as motivation to push yourself to get better.ND_Coach wrote:Kleinsasser's style is more than yelling a lot. It also includes berating and putting the players down. This is a large reason they lack discipline, because none of the players respect him as a coach.
They will be a good team next year because they have a lot of talent but they will never reach their full potential. On talent alone they can probally have 2 20 win seasons in the next 3 years.
I beg to differ. It is called tough love...
It tough love to call players worthless and tell them they struggle? Its tough love to tell one player that he will never be half as good as his brother? That is not tough love.
bballfan_05 wrote:A smart player would use it as motivation and quit whinning about it. I personally don't argee with Kleinsasser's coaching style, however I think the man knows more about basketball than he is given credit for. At least the man doesn't call a timeout and tell his players he has no clue what to do, or doesn't get a play drawn up. That really gives the kids confidence. It's all in how one looks at it, you can either whine and think nothing of the guy, or use it as motivation to push yourself to get better.
ND_Coach wrote:bballfan_05 wrote:A smart player would use it as motivation and quit whinning about it. I personally don't argee with Kleinsasser's coaching style, however I think the man knows more about basketball than he is given credit for. At least the man doesn't call a timeout and tell his players he has no clue what to do, or doesn't get a play drawn up. That really gives the kids confidence. It's all in how one looks at it, you can either whine and think nothing of the guy, or use it as motivation to push yourself to get better.
I see where you are coming from bballfan. Lets flip it around a bit though, a smart coach would use more tact to motivate. What sounds better?: Johnny you struggle at dribbling and you will never be half as good as your brother or Johnny you hustle and work hard but it will tough for you to get playing time on varsity unless you improve your dribbling. Both convey the same point, but I would argue people will have more respect for the latter, it lays everything that needs to be done on the shoulders of the player and now it is up to Johnny to get things done.
Let me pose a question now. Would it be acceptable for a science teacher to tell a student that they are terrible in science and stupid in front of the class? Should the students then stop whining about it and use it to motivate themselves?
I will say Kliensasser has an above average grasp on the x's and o's but he is overrated as a coach. He rode Brian Dykema and Jon Van Boven to almost all of his success, and with those two on a team anyone could have won. He will do the same now with Bobbi Kramer, Mark Baumgartner, and Danny Nieuwsma. They will have success but it is because of talent, not coaching
ND_Coach wrote:bballfan_05 wrote:A smart player would use it as motivation and quit whinning about it. I personally don't argee with Kleinsasser's coaching style, however I think the man knows more about basketball than he is given credit for. At least the man doesn't call a timeout and tell his players he has no clue what to do, or doesn't get a play drawn up. That really gives the kids confidence. It's all in how one looks at it, you can either whine and think nothing of the guy, or use it as motivation to push yourself to get better.
I see where you are coming from bballfan. Lets flip it around a bit though, a smart coach would use more tact to motivate. What sounds better?: Johnny you struggle at dribbling and you will never be half as good as your brother or Johnny you hustle and work hard but it will tough for you to get playing time on varsity unless you improve your dribbling. Both convey the same point, but I would argue people will have more respect for the latter, it lays everything that needs to be done on the shoulders of the player and now it is up to Johnny to get things done.
Let me pose a question now. Would it be acceptable for a science teacher to tell a student that they are terrible in science and stupid in front of the class? Should the students then stop whining about it and use it to motivate themselves?
I will say Kliensasser has an above average grasp on the x's and o's but he is overrated as a coach. He rode Brian Dykema and Jon Van Boven to almost all of his success, and with those two on a team anyone could have won. He will do the same now with Bobbi Kramer, Mark Baumgartner, and Danny Nieuwsma. They will have success but it is because of talent, not coaching
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