Class A vs. Class B

[trackster]

Lets hear what you have to say and start the blood bath.

[trackster]

I'm going to start off saying class B has it harder just because the state has more class B schools than class A schools so there is a lot more compition. With class B basketball only the top team goes to state when class A takes the top four.

[Mr. Knowitall]

Well on a weekly basis Class A obviously plays better teams.  But many Class B schools can compete with Class A.  Just look at FW, they handily beat Belcourt last year and the year before that.  Lisbon also beat VC a Class A school by 5.  And Carrington, who has decent program, only loss to VC by 14.

[sportsmart]

Class B has more teams to go through, but class A definitely has way better competition.  It is hard to say.  I would think class A just because of the teams you have to beat.  There are no real gimmee teams like in class B.  Heck you can eliminate half the team in the region in class B because the teams are terrible.  You don't have this in class A.  Just my thoughts and I have been part of both.

[Deuce]

Well on a weekly basis Class A obviously plays better teams.  But many Class B schools can compete with Class A.  Just look at FW, they handily beat Belcourt last year and the year before that.  Lisbon also beat VC a Class A school by 5.  And Carrington, who has decent program, only loss to VC by 14.

I think you just made class A's point. Oak Grove, Lisbon and Carrington are top class B teams and they were competative games going 2-1 with VC which only won 2 EDC games all year (each by 3 points) in a down EDC year.  So if you look at it, the best class B teams would be in the single digits for wins  and would rarely ever place top 4 and go to state. 

 As far as who has it harder?  I'd call it a wash.  If you play on one of the big teams you'd go virtually every year, but the hard part would be making the team.  In class B the hard part is not having a bad game when you are the better team.  We went to the state class B my junior year with all juniors, and when I was senior we were 21-2, losing in the semi's of regionals and not returning.

[Mr. Knowitall]

Well on a weekly basis Class A obviously plays better teams.  But many Class B schools can compete with Class A.  Just look at FW, they handily beat Belcourt last year and the year before that.  Lisbon also beat VC a Class A school by 5.  And Carrington, who has decent program, only loss to VC by 14.

I think you just made class A's point. Oak Grove, Lisbon and Carrington are top class B teams and they were competative games going 2-1 with VC which only won 2 EDC games all year (each by 3 points) in a down EDC year.  So if you look at it, the best class B teams would be in the single digits for wins  and would rarely ever place top 4 and go to state. 

 As far as who has it harder?  I'd call it a wash.  If you play on one of the big teams you'd go virtually every year, but the hard part would be making the team.  In class B the hard part is not having a bad game when you are the better team.  We went to the state class B my junior year with all juniors, and when I was senior we were 21-2, losing in the semi's of regionals and not returning.

Carrington is far from being one of the top B teams and so is Oak Grove.  But FW played Belcourt, which is a very competitive WDA team, and they beat them by almost 20 points last year.  The best class B teams would not be in the single digits in the win column.  If FW played Class A this year I can almost garuntee you that they'll have a winning record.  So would teams like Hankinson and DT becuase of their stellar defense.

[Deuce]

Well on a weekly basis Class A obviously plays better teams.  But many Class B schools can compete with Class A.  Just look at FW, they handily beat Belcourt last year and the year before that.  Lisbon also beat VC a Class A school by 5.  And Carrington, who has decent program, only loss to VC by 14.

I think you just made class A's point. Oak Grove, Lisbon and Carrington are top class B teams and they were competative games going 2-1 with VC which only won 2 EDC games all year (each by 3 points) in a down EDC year.  So if you look at it, the best class B teams would be in the single digits for wins  and would rarely ever place top 4 and go to state. 

 As far as who has it harder?  I'd call it a wash.  If you play on one of the big teams you'd go virtually every year, but the hard part would be making the team.  In class B the hard part is not having a bad game when you are the better team.  We went to the state class B my junior year with all juniors, and when I was senior we were 21-2, losing in the semi's of regionals and not returning.

Carrington is far from being one of the top B teams and so is Oak Grove.  But FW played Belcourt, which is a very competitive WDA team, and they beat them by almost 20 points last year.  The best class B teams would not be in the single digits in the win column.  If FW played Class A this year I can almost garuntee you that they'll have a winning record.  So would teams like Hankinson and DT becuase of their stellar defense.

Turtle Mountain was 5 - 11 in WDA with a 2 and BBQ in the WDA tournament.   They lost 80-33 in the WDA opener to BHS and 66-46 to a 6 - 10 Jamestown.  I wouldn't call that competative.

 

[Bearsfan]

Well on a weekly basis Class A obviously plays better teams.  But many Class B schools can compete with Class A.  Just look at FW, they handily beat Belcourt last year and the year before that.  Lisbon also beat VC a Class A school by 5.  And Carrington, who has decent program, only loss to VC by 14.

I think you just made class A's point. Oak Grove, Lisbon and Carrington are top class B teams and they were competative games going 2-1 with VC which only won 2 EDC games all year (each by 3 points) in a down EDC year.  So if you look at it, the best class B teams would be in the single digits for wins  and would rarely ever place top 4 and go to state. 

 As far as who has it harder?  I'd call it a wash.  If you play on one of the big teams you'd go virtually every year, but the hard part would be making the team.  In class B the hard part is not having a bad game when you are the better team.  We went to the state class B my junior year with all juniors, and when I was senior we were 21-2, losing in the semi's of regionals and not returning.

I can jump in this one being from Beulah.  Over the past 7 years we have had some very decent teams, getting to state is tough.  a team only has to win 2 games at the WDA tourney to get there, the main problem is that you have to beat out 2 of those "Big" town teams.  I'm not saying that we didn't have our chances, but with the depth of the Class A teams and after playing them at least 2 times earlier during the season, its very tough to surprise 2 of those teams.   

But having said that, I think Class B is tough also, because of only one team goes per region and each individual game during a regional tourney means more, it is a lot more prestigious to go to the state tourney.

[cdub1]

Well on a weekly basis Class A obviously plays better teams.  But many Class B schools can compete with Class A.  Just look at FW, they handily beat Belcourt last year and the year before that.  Lisbon also beat VC a Class A school by 5.  And Carrington, who has decent program, only loss to VC by 14.

belcourt is at the bottom of class a along with vc and i think it is harder to make state in a than in b case in point mandan with arguably the states best player dint make state where shiloh with maybe one player (friesen) who would start varsity in class a did

[sodadrinker]

Well on a weekly basis Class A obviously plays better teams.  But many Class B schools can compete with Class A.  Just look at FW, they handily beat Belcourt last year and the year before that.  Lisbon also beat VC a Class A school by 5.  And Carrington, who has decent program, only loss to VC by 14.

belcourt is at the bottom of class a along with vc and i think it is harder to make state in a than in b case in point mandan with arguably the states best player dint make state where shiloh with maybe one player (friesen) who would start varsity in class a did

thats only one region and maybe another good team had that 1 bad game.  u dont get 1 bad game in the region tournament in most regions cuz there is always another team that can beat u

[web17]

i think a lot of the Class A games are closer. by using the shot clock, you can be down 6 with a minute to go and not have to throw up the first shot you get. the shot clock guarentees you a lot more shot. so it is therefore easier to catch up at the end.(assuming you play defense)

[project-pat]

Class B is obviously harder...There is now 4 winds in Class A.

CLASS A GAMES ARE SLOPPY

[cdub1]

Class B is obviously harder...There is now 4 winds in Class A.

CLASS A GAMES ARE SLOPPY

if class a games are sloppy wut would class b games be?

[project-pat]

Class B is obviously harder...There is now 4 winds in Class A.

CLASS A GAMES ARE SLOPPY

if class a games are sloppy wut would class b games be?

perfection haha. idk, just from what I watched of the super A, i was not impressed.

[baller01]

It is really quite simple. If we are wondering who has the harder road to the state tournament, it is class B. Now people are going to say, well some teams in the tournaments are terrible teams. That might be true, but any team can beat any team on any given night. If we are wondering who is the better competition, then it is class A. I'm not saying that Ironhart, Bakkum, Wheeling, Packineaus, Lorenz etc. wouldn't be good class A players, I'm saying the whole team down the line is better competition.

So it depends what we are wondering. Harder to make to a state tournament, class B. Better competition, class A.

[gator-nation]

i would take class b for a good reason...that is u get to see good young ball players really develope. for example payton tivis and donny breen from bowman both started varsity as freshman and im sure there are many more greats who have done so also.

[region1 football]

look how jake holen turned out.

[crossover]

Class B is tougher because Class A all you need to do to go to state is get 4th in the regional tourney Class B you have to be the region champs.

[letsgosox]

look at beulah, they couldn't do anything in class A, then they moved down to class B, and they still couldn't do anything. I think it shows that the two divisions are alot more equal than some people believe. To get to state in the B you need a great team. These teams would be able to compete on a class A level, but the difference would be the depth, and a good class A team would be able to beat a great class B team.

[Deuce]

look at beulah, they couldn't do anything in class A, then they moved down to class B, and they still couldn't do anything. I think it shows that the two divisions are alot more equal than some people believe. To get to state in the B you need a great team. These teams would be able to compete on a class A level, but the difference would be the depth, and a good class A team would be able to beat a great class B team.

I wouldn't say Beulah didn't do anything this year.  They beat a lot of the top class B teams and were ranked all year.  I give them a year or two and you'll hear just as much whining about them as you do Trininty.  They have a very good coach and program, its just that at class A you need to turn out so many more good players that they just don't have the numbers to be competative with the bigger schools.