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Postby pacod » Mon Mar 19, 2007 11:41 am

north_border_eagles2106 wrote:Isn't CJ Ironheart a Sophomore?

NO he's a junior.
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Postby nativegolfer » Mon Mar 19, 2007 11:42 am

baller01 wrote:
nativegolfer wrote:
jetblue12 wrote:
nativegolfer wrote:
jetblue12 wrote:
nativegolfer wrote:
baller01 wrote:
sportsguy wrote:Now before we get too far into things, I am under the impression that this is Best Class B Juniors.  Now if this is the case the top Class B Juniors in the state in my opinion are:

1 - Austin Dufault

2 - Jamie Mauch

3 - Justin Shipman

4 - Austin Vetter

5 - Rudy Youngbird

After this in no imparticular order : Ben Holen, Logan Carlblom, Brooks Backus, Clint Urvand, Jerak Hansen, Riley Decoteau, Reed Haagenson.

Now if we are talking about top Overall Juniors in the state Class A has alot of good players as well - Jordan Allard, Jordan May, Tanner Farkas, Zac Elgie, Luke Martinez, Ismail Kareem, Dustin Hermann, Seth Dye, BJ Mertens, Jordan Mertens, Tyler Miller, Jake Bauer, Taylor Brushwein, Ryan Hornecker, Gary Hetikamp, Ben Kringstad, Andy Hoff, Ryam Malme, Landon Rachel, Ryan Tarasenko. 

In my opinion the Best Junior in the State is Austin Dufault and has a chance to bring Mr. Basketball back to Class B, for the first time since I believe Hunter Berg in 1995, if he can lead his team to State next year. 

If Austin can lead Killdeer to state next year then I will be amazed...
Wow, how can you leave CJ Ironheart off that list?  He'll go for 20+ per game next year. 

doesnt look like he plays any defense.

Oh and everyone else listed is a defensive stopper.  Ok, I see. 

well im sure they at least attempt to play defense
That's funny as heck!!  I guess averaging almost 3 steals per game means your'e not playin D. 

A player might average 5 steals a game but that doesn't mean he's a good defender. I know guys that lead their team in steals and aren't there best defender. Sure, you might have the most steals, but thats now all what defense is about.

I'm not saying he's a defensive stopper but you guys are flatout ignorant if you are saying he doesn't play D.  And you can't say everyone on that list is a D stud.  I don't know how much you know about BB, but if someone is averaging 4-5 steals a game, he's playin some dang good defense! 
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Postby SportsAreLife » Mon Mar 19, 2007 11:49 am

nativegolfer wrote:
baller01 wrote:
nativegolfer wrote:
jetblue12 wrote:
nativegolfer wrote:
jetblue12 wrote:
nativegolfer wrote:
baller01 wrote:
sportsguy wrote:Now before we get too far into things, I am under the impression that this is Best Class B Juniors.  Now if this is the case the top Class B Juniors in the state in my opinion are:

1 - Austin Dufault

2 - Jamie Mauch

3 - Justin Shipman

4 - Austin Vetter

5 - Rudy Youngbird

After this in no imparticular order : Ben Holen, Logan Carlblom, Brooks Backus, Clint Urvand, Jerak Hansen, Riley Decoteau, Reed Haagenson.

Now if we are talking about top Overall Juniors in the state Class A has alot of good players as well - Jordan Allard, Jordan May, Tanner Farkas, Zac Elgie, Luke Martinez, Ismail Kareem, Dustin Hermann, Seth Dye, BJ Mertens, Jordan Mertens, Tyler Miller, Jake Bauer, Taylor Brushwein, Ryan Hornecker, Gary Hetikamp, Ben Kringstad, Andy Hoff, Ryam Malme, Landon Rachel, Ryan Tarasenko. 

In my opinion the Best Junior in the State is Austin Dufault and has a chance to bring Mr. Basketball back to Class B, for the first time since I believe Hunter Berg in 1995, if he can lead his team to State next year. 

If Austin can lead Killdeer to state next year then I will be amazed...
Wow, how can you leave CJ Ironheart off that list?  He'll go for 20+ per game next year. 

doesnt look like he plays any defense.

Oh and everyone else listed is a defensive stopper.  Ok, I see. 

well im sure they at least attempt to play defense
That's funny as heck!!  I guess averaging almost 3 steals per game means your'e not playin D. 

A player might average 5 steals a game but that doesn't mean he's a good defender. I know guys that lead their team in steals and aren't there best defender. Sure, you might have the most steals, but thats now all what defense is about.

I'm not saying he's a defensive stopper but you guys are flatout ignorant if you are saying he doesn't play D.  And you can't say everyone on that list is a D stud.  I don't know how much you know about BB, but if someone is averaging 4-5 steals a game, he's playin some darn good defense! 

C.J. Ironheart sits at half court and waits for his teammates to steal the ball. Cherry Picking 101. At least that's how it looked to me.
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Postby koopa » Mon Mar 19, 2007 11:56 am

SportsAreLife wrote:
nativegolfer wrote:
baller01 wrote:
nativegolfer wrote:
jetblue12 wrote:
nativegolfer wrote:
jetblue12 wrote:
nativegolfer wrote:
baller01 wrote:
sportsguy wrote:Now before we get too far into things, I am under the impression that this is Best Class B Juniors.  Now if this is the case the top Class B Juniors in the state in my opinion are:

1 - Austin Dufault

2 - Jamie Mauch

3 - Justin Shipman

4 - Austin Vetter

5 - Rudy Youngbird

After this in no imparticular order : Ben Holen, Logan Carlblom, Brooks Backus, Clint Urvand, Jerak Hansen, Riley Decoteau, Reed Haagenson.

Now if we are talking about top Overall Juniors in the state Class A has alot of good players as well - Jordan Allard, Jordan May, Tanner Farkas, Zac Elgie, Luke Martinez, Ismail Kareem, Dustin Hermann, Seth Dye, BJ Mertens, Jordan Mertens, Tyler Miller, Jake Bauer, Taylor Brushwein, Ryan Hornecker, Gary Hetikamp, Ben Kringstad, Andy Hoff, Ryam Malme, Landon Rachel, Ryan Tarasenko. 

In my opinion the Best Junior in the State is Austin Dufault and has a chance to bring Mr. Basketball back to Class B, for the first time since I believe Hunter Berg in 1995, if he can lead his team to State next year. 

If Austin can lead Killdeer to state next year then I will be amazed...
Wow, how can you leave CJ Ironheart off that list?  He'll go for 20+ per game next year. 

doesnt look like he plays any defense.

Oh and everyone else listed is a defensive stopper.  Ok, I see. 

well im sure they at least attempt to play defense
That's funny as heck!!  I guess averaging almost 3 steals per game means your'e not playin D. 

A player might average 5 steals a game but that doesn't mean he's a good defender. I know guys that lead their team in steals and aren't there best defender. Sure, you might have the most steals, but thats now all what defense is about.

I'm not saying he's a defensive stopper but you guys are flatout ignorant if you are saying he doesn't play D.  And you can't say everyone on that list is a D stud.  I don't know how much you know about BB, but if someone is averaging 4-5 steals a game, he's playin some darn good defense! 

C.J. Ironheart sits at half court and waits for his teammates to steal the ball. Cherry Picking 101. At least that's how it looked to me.

WHY ARE WE YELLING
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Postby SportsAreLife » Mon Mar 19, 2007 11:58 am

koopa wrote:
SportsAreLife wrote:
nativegolfer wrote:
baller01 wrote:
nativegolfer wrote:
jetblue12 wrote:
nativegolfer wrote:
jetblue12 wrote:
nativegolfer wrote:
baller01 wrote:
sportsguy wrote:Now before we get too far into things, I am under the impression that this is Best Class B Juniors.  Now if this is the case the top Class B Juniors in the state in my opinion are:

1 - Austin Dufault

2 - Jamie Mauch

3 - Justin Shipman

4 - Austin Vetter

5 - Rudy Youngbird

After this in no imparticular order : Ben Holen, Logan Carlblom, Brooks Backus, Clint Urvand, Jerak Hansen, Riley Decoteau, Reed Haagenson.

Now if we are talking about top Overall Juniors in the state Class A has alot of good players as well - Jordan Allard, Jordan May, Tanner Farkas, Zac Elgie, Luke Martinez, Ismail Kareem, Dustin Hermann, Seth Dye, BJ Mertens, Jordan Mertens, Tyler Miller, Jake Bauer, Taylor Brushwein, Ryan Hornecker, Gary Hetikamp, Ben Kringstad, Andy Hoff, Ryam Malme, Landon Rachel, Ryan Tarasenko. 

In my opinion the Best Junior in the State is Austin Dufault and has a chance to bring Mr. Basketball back to Class B, for the first time since I believe Hunter Berg in 1995, if he can lead his team to State next year. 

If Austin can lead Killdeer to state next year then I will be amazed...
Wow, how can you leave CJ Ironheart off that list?  He'll go for 20+ per game next year. 

doesnt look like he plays any defense.

Oh and everyone else listed is a defensive stopper.  Ok, I see. 

well im sure they at least attempt to play defense
That's funny as heck!!  I guess averaging almost 3 steals per game means your'e not playin D. 

A player might average 5 steals a game but that doesn't mean he's a good defender. I know guys that lead their team in steals and aren't there best defender. Sure, you might have the most steals, but thats now all what defense is about.

I'm not saying he's a defensive stopper but you guys are flatout ignorant if you are saying he doesn't play D.  And you can't say everyone on that list is a D stud.  I don't know how much you know about BB, but if someone is averaging 4-5 steals a game, he's playin some darn good defense! 

C.J. Ironheart sits at half court and waits for his teammates to steal the ball. Cherry Picking 101. At least that's how it looked to me.

WHY ARE WE YELLING

 Please no children on this website. Even though it was quite funny.
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Postby koopa » Mon Mar 19, 2007 11:58 am

SportsAreLife wrote:
koopa wrote:
SportsAreLife wrote:
nativegolfer wrote:
baller01 wrote:
nativegolfer wrote:
jetblue12 wrote:
nativegolfer wrote:
jetblue12 wrote:
nativegolfer wrote:
baller01 wrote:
sportsguy wrote:Now before we get too far into things, I am under the impression that this is Best Class B Juniors.  Now if this is the case the top Class B Juniors in the state in my opinion are:

1 - Austin Dufault

2 - Jamie Mauch

3 - Justin Shipman

4 - Austin Vetter

5 - Rudy Youngbird

After this in no imparticular order : Ben Holen, Logan Carlblom, Brooks Backus, Clint Urvand, Jerak Hansen, Riley Decoteau, Reed Haagenson.

Now if we are talking about top Overall Juniors in the state Class A has alot of good players as well - Jordan Allard, Jordan May, Tanner Farkas, Zac Elgie, Luke Martinez, Ismail Kareem, Dustin Hermann, Seth Dye, BJ Mertens, Jordan Mertens, Tyler Miller, Jake Bauer, Taylor Brushwein, Ryan Hornecker, Gary Hetikamp, Ben Kringstad, Andy Hoff, Ryam Malme, Landon Rachel, Ryan Tarasenko. 

In my opinion the Best Junior in the State is Austin Dufault and has a chance to bring Mr. Basketball back to Class B, for the first time since I believe Hunter Berg in 1995, if he can lead his team to State next year. 

If Austin can lead Killdeer to state next year then I will be amazed...
Wow, how can you leave CJ Ironheart off that list?  He'll go for 20+ per game next year. 

doesnt look like he plays any defense.

Oh and everyone else listed is a defensive stopper.  Ok, I see. 

well im sure they at least attempt to play defense
That's funny as heck!!  I guess averaging almost 3 steals per game means your'e not playin D. 

A player might average 5 steals a game but that doesn't mean he's a good defender. I know guys that lead their team in steals and aren't there best defender. Sure, you might have the most steals, but thats now all what defense is about.

I'm not saying he's a defensive stopper but you guys are flatout ignorant if you are saying he doesn't play D.  And you can't say everyone on that list is a D stud.  I don't know how much you know about BB, but if someone is averaging 4-5 steals a game, he's playin some darn good defense! 

C.J. Ironheart sits at half court and waits for his teammates to steal the ball. Cherry Picking 101. At least that's how it looked to me.

WHY ARE WE YELLING

 Please no children on this website. Even though it was quite funny.


OK
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Postby baller01 » Mon Mar 19, 2007 12:02 pm

nativegolfer wrote:
baller01 wrote:
nativegolfer wrote:
jetblue12 wrote:
nativegolfer wrote:
jetblue12 wrote:
nativegolfer wrote:
baller01 wrote:
sportsguy wrote:Now before we get too far into things, I am under the impression that this is Best Class B Juniors.  Now if this is the case the top Class B Juniors in the state in my opinion are:

1 - Austin Dufault

2 - Jamie Mauch

3 - Justin Shipman

4 - Austin Vetter

5 - Rudy Youngbird

After this in no imparticular order : Ben Holen, Logan Carlblom, Brooks Backus, Clint Urvand, Jerak Hansen, Riley Decoteau, Reed Haagenson.

Now if we are talking about top Overall Juniors in the state Class A has alot of good players as well - Jordan Allard, Jordan May, Tanner Farkas, Zac Elgie, Luke Martinez, Ismail Kareem, Dustin Hermann, Seth Dye, BJ Mertens, Jordan Mertens, Tyler Miller, Jake Bauer, Taylor Brushwein, Ryan Hornecker, Gary Hetikamp, Ben Kringstad, Andy Hoff, Ryam Malme, Landon Rachel, Ryan Tarasenko. 

In my opinion the Best Junior in the State is Austin Dufault and has a chance to bring Mr. Basketball back to Class B, for the first time since I believe Hunter Berg in 1995, if he can lead his team to State next year. 

If Austin can lead Killdeer to state next year then I will be amazed...
Wow, how can you leave CJ Ironheart off that list?  He'll go for 20+ per game next year. 

doesnt look like he plays any defense.

Oh and everyone else listed is a defensive stopper.  Ok, I see. 

well im sure they at least attempt to play defense
That's funny as heck!!  I guess averaging almost 3 steals per game means your'e not playin D. 

A player might average 5 steals a game but that doesn't mean he's a good defender. I know guys that lead their team in steals and aren't there best defender. Sure, you might have the most steals, but thats now all what defense is about.

I'm not saying he's a defensive stopper but you guys are flatout ignorant if you are saying he doesn't play D.  And you can't say everyone on that list is a D stud.  I don't know how much you know about BB, but if someone is averaging 4-5 steals a game, he's playin some darn good defense! 

A lot, and 4-5 steals isn't good defense if that is all a guy does is go for steals and the guy he is guarding scores way more then he should. I'm not saying he is a bad defender I'm just saying the steals part can be misleading. Just like someone who makes 70 3's in a year. Ya, 70 is a lot, but did he shoot 350 times to get it.
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Postby nativegolfer » Mon Mar 19, 2007 12:02 pm

koopa wrote:
SportsAreLife wrote:
koopa wrote:
SportsAreLife wrote:
nativegolfer wrote:
baller01 wrote:
nativegolfer wrote:
jetblue12 wrote:
nativegolfer wrote:
jetblue12 wrote:
nativegolfer wrote:
baller01 wrote:
sportsguy wrote:Now before we get too far into things, I am under the impression that this is Best Class B Juniors.  Now if this is the case the top Class B Juniors in the state in my opinion are:

1 - Austin Dufault

2 - Jamie Mauch

3 - Justin Shipman

4 - Austin Vetter

5 - Rudy Youngbird

After this in no imparticular order : Ben Holen, Logan Carlblom, Brooks Backus, Clint Urvand, Jerak Hansen, Riley Decoteau, Reed Haagenson.

Now if we are talking about top Overall Juniors in the state Class A has alot of good players as well - Jordan Allard, Jordan May, Tanner Farkas, Zac Elgie, Luke Martinez, Ismail Kareem, Dustin Hermann, Seth Dye, BJ Mertens, Jordan Mertens, Tyler Miller, Jake Bauer, Taylor Brushwein, Ryan Hornecker, Gary Hetikamp, Ben Kringstad, Andy Hoff, Ryam Malme, Landon Rachel, Ryan Tarasenko. 

In my opinion the Best Junior in the State is Austin Dufault and has a chance to bring Mr. Basketball back to Class B, for the first time since I believe Hunter Berg in 1995, if he can lead his team to State next year. 

If Austin can lead Killdeer to state next year then I will be amazed...
Wow, how can you leave CJ Ironheart off that list?  He'll go for 20+ per game next year. 

doesnt look like he plays any defense.

Oh and everyone else listed is a defensive stopper.  Ok, I see. 

well im sure they at least attempt to play defense
That's funny as heck!!  I guess averaging almost 3 steals per game means your'e not playin D. 

A player might average 5 steals a game but that doesn't mean he's a good defender. I know guys that lead their team in steals and aren't there best defender. Sure, you might have the most steals, but thats now all what defense is about.

I'm not saying he's a defensive stopper but you guys are flatout ignorant if you are saying he doesn't play D.  And you can't say everyone on that list is a D stud.  I don't know how much you know about BB, but if someone is averaging 4-5 steals a game, he's playin some darn good defense! 

C.J. Ironheart sits at half court and waits for his teammates to steal the ball. Cherry Picking 101. At least that's how it looked to me.

WHY ARE WE YELLING

 Please no children on this website. Even though it was quite funny.


OK

Now your'e just bein an idiot.  No one on this site who has seen FW play will agree with what you just wrote.  And I'm positive if he did do something of that nature, he'd be sittin on the bench. 
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Postby SportsAreLife » Mon Mar 19, 2007 12:09 pm

nativegolfer wrote:
koopa wrote:
SportsAreLife wrote:
koopa wrote:
SportsAreLife wrote:
nativegolfer wrote:
baller01 wrote:
nativegolfer wrote:
jetblue12 wrote:
nativegolfer wrote:
jetblue12 wrote:
nativegolfer wrote:
baller01 wrote:
sportsguy wrote:Now before we get too far into things, I am under the impression that this is Best Class B Juniors.  Now if this is the case the top Class B Juniors in the state in my opinion are:

1 - Austin Dufault

2 - Jamie Mauch

3 - Justin Shipman

4 - Austin Vetter

5 - Rudy Youngbird

After this in no imparticular order : Ben Holen, Logan Carlblom, Brooks Backus, Clint Urvand, Jerak Hansen, Riley Decoteau, Reed Haagenson.

Now if we are talking about top Overall Juniors in the state Class A has alot of good players as well - Jordan Allard, Jordan May, Tanner Farkas, Zac Elgie, Luke Martinez, Ismail Kareem, Dustin Hermann, Seth Dye, BJ Mertens, Jordan Mertens, Tyler Miller, Jake Bauer, Taylor Brushwein, Ryan Hornecker, Gary Hetikamp, Ben Kringstad, Andy Hoff, Ryam Malme, Landon Rachel, Ryan Tarasenko. 

In my opinion the Best Junior in the State is Austin Dufault and has a chance to bring Mr. Basketball back to Class B, for the first time since I believe Hunter Berg in 1995, if he can lead his team to State next year. 

If Austin can lead Killdeer to state next year then I will be amazed...
Wow, how can you leave CJ Ironheart off that list?  He'll go for 20+ per game next year. 

doesnt look like he plays any defense.

Oh and everyone else listed is a defensive stopper.  Ok, I see. 

well im sure they at least attempt to play defense
That's funny as heck!!  I guess averaging almost 3 steals per game means your'e not playin D. 

A player might average 5 steals a game but that doesn't mean he's a good defender. I know guys that lead their team in steals and aren't there best defender. Sure, you might have the most steals, but thats now all what defense is about.

I'm not saying he's a defensive stopper but you guys are flatout ignorant if you are saying he doesn't play D.  And you can't say everyone on that list is a D stud.  I don't know how much you know about BB, but if someone is averaging 4-5 steals a game, he's playin some darn good defense! 

C.J. Ironheart sits at half court and waits for his teammates to steal the ball. Cherry Picking 101. At least that's how it looked to me.

WHY ARE WE YELLING

 Please no children on this website. Even though it was quite funny.


OK

Now your'e just bein an idiot.  No one on this site who has seen FW play will agree with what you just wrote.  And I'm positive if he did do something of that nature, he'd be sittin on the bench. 

During the BCN game thats what it looked like he was doing. He's a good player don't get me wrong, but at the state tournament there was a couple time where he would just sit a half court and wait.
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Postby The Schwab » Mon Mar 19, 2007 12:15 pm

SportsAreLife wrote:
nativegolfer wrote:
koopa wrote:
SportsAreLife wrote:
koopa wrote:
SportsAreLife wrote:
nativegolfer wrote:
baller01 wrote:
nativegolfer wrote:
jetblue12 wrote:
nativegolfer wrote:
jetblue12 wrote:
nativegolfer wrote:
baller01 wrote:
sportsguy wrote:Now before we get too far into things, I am under the impression that this is Best Class B Juniors.  Now if this is the case the top Class B Juniors in the state in my opinion are:

1 - Austin Dufault

2 - Jamie Mauch

3 - Justin Shipman

4 - Austin Vetter

5 - Rudy Youngbird

After this in no imparticular order : Ben Holen, Logan Carlblom, Brooks Backus, Clint Urvand, Jerak Hansen, Riley Decoteau, Reed Haagenson.

Now if we are talking about top Overall Juniors in the state Class A has alot of good players as well - Jordan Allard, Jordan May, Tanner Farkas, Zac Elgie, Luke Martinez, Ismail Kareem, Dustin Hermann, Seth Dye, BJ Mertens, Jordan Mertens, Tyler Miller, Jake Bauer, Taylor Brushwein, Ryan Hornecker, Gary Hetikamp, Ben Kringstad, Andy Hoff, Ryam Malme, Landon Rachel, Ryan Tarasenko. 

In my opinion the Best Junior in the State is Austin Dufault and has a chance to bring Mr. Basketball back to Class B, for the first time since I believe Hunter Berg in 1995, if he can lead his team to State next year. 

If Austin can lead Killdeer to state next year then I will be amazed...
Wow, how can you leave CJ Ironheart off that list?  He'll go for 20+ per game next year. 

doesnt look like he plays any defense.

Oh and everyone else listed is a defensive stopper.  Ok, I see. 

well im sure they at least attempt to play defense
That's funny as heck!!  I guess averaging almost 3 steals per game means your'e not playin D. 

A player might average 5 steals a game but that doesn't mean he's a good defender. I know guys that lead their team in steals and aren't there best defender. Sure, you might have the most steals, but thats now all what defense is about.

I'm not saying he's a defensive stopper but you guys are flatout ignorant if you are saying he doesn't play D.  And you can't say everyone on that list is a D stud.  I don't know how much you know about BB, but if someone is averaging 4-5 steals a game, he's playin some darn good defense! 

C.J. Ironheart sits at half court and waits for his teammates to steal the ball. Cherry Picking 101. At least that's how it looked to me.

WHY ARE WE YELLING

 Please no children on this website. Even though it was quite funny.


OK

Now your'e just bein an idiot.  No one on this site who has seen FW play will agree with what you just wrote.  And I'm positive if he did do something of that nature, he'd be sittin on the bench. 

During the BCN game thats what it looked like he was doing. He's a good player don't get me wrong, but at the state tournament there was a couple time where he would just sit a half court and wait.
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Postby north_border_eagles2106 » Mon Mar 19, 2007 12:39 pm

That post is getting increasingly long lets just not quote that one anymore.  I also would agree that CJ Ironheart should be on that list of top Juniors.
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Postby dmdp » Mon Mar 19, 2007 12:59 pm

It goes in this order (and yes, I've seen all these kids play)

1) Austin Dufault, Killdeer: Has every D-II college in the upper Midwest foaming at the mouth over him and is probably waiting to get some D-I looks. Is a 6-7 guard who can also play just about any position on the floor and does. Borderline first team all-stater this season and lock-down Mr. Basketball candidate next year (if he stays injury-free).

2) Austin Vetter, Bishop Ryan: Had a great state tournament. Made some nice moves in the paint. I'd like to see him and Zac Elgie go 1-on-1 and see whose face gets bloody first. I'm betting it'd be Elgie. After watching him at the state tournament, I'd be amazed if he wasn't an all-state pick.

3) Jamie Mauch, Hankinson: Not too bad of a state tournament. Proved that his numbers weren't inflated by a poor region. Pretty much locked down his all-state nod.

4) Justin Shipman, Watford City: Played at what most coaches think was "80 percent" this year and should probably still get all-state looks.

5) Rudy Young Bird, Parshall: Not too bad of a player. Seems to get things done in the post fairly well but will have to become the leader of the Braves next season without the Packineaus around to take the pressure off of him. If he proves he can do this, I'd think about moving him up this list.

Others: Logan Carlblom, Lisbon; Jacob Erhardt, Hazen; C.J. Ironheart, Four Winds.
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Postby BBall dominator » Mon Mar 19, 2007 1:07 pm

[user=1580]dmdp[/user] wrote:
It goes in this order (and yes, I've seen all these kids play)

1) Austin Dufault, Killdeer: Has every D-II college in the upper Midwest foaming at the mouth over him and is probably waiting to get some D-I looks. Is a 6-7 guard who can also play just about any position on the floor and does. Borderline first team all-stater this season and lock-down Mr. Basketball candidate next year (if he stays injury-free).

2) Austin Vetter, Bishop Ryan: Had a great state tournament. Made some nice moves in the paint. I'd like to see him and Zac Elgie go 1-on-1 and see whose face gets bloody first. I'm betting it'd be Elgie. After watching him at the state tournament, I'd be amazed if he wasn't an all-state pick.

3) Jamie Mauch, Hankinson: Not too bad of a state tournament. Proved that his numbers weren't inflated by a poor region. Pretty much locked down his all-state nod.

4) Justin Shipman, Watford City: Played at what most coaches think was "80 percent" this year and should probably still get all-state looks.

5) Rudy Young Bird, Parshall: Not too bad of a player. Seems to get things done in the post fairly well but will have to become the leader of the Braves next season without the Packineaus around to take the pressure off of him. If he proves he can do this, I'd think about moving him up this list.

Others: Logan Carlblom, Lisbon; Jacob Erhardt, Hazen; C.J. Ironheart, Four Winds.

I've seen everyone but the lisbon kid play and that doesn't look like that bad of a list but shipman could be #2 but its always tough to just pick players and number them but all in all but I think you should've but C.J. IH higher just for the sheer fact your in for the FW fans jumping all over you about how he plays D and is a leader yada yada yada..........
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Postby feeshattack » Mon Mar 19, 2007 2:00 pm

yea i agree with those top 5...... some others to consider: jarek hansen, logan cariblom, caleb shockman, and isnt adam hunt a JR?
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Postby baller01 » Mon Mar 19, 2007 2:04 pm

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dmdp wrote:It goes in this order (and yes, I've seen all these kids play)

1) Austin Dufault, Killdeer: Has every D-II college in the upper Midwest foaming at the mouth over him and is probably waiting to get some D-I looks. Is a 6-7 guard who can also play just about any position on the floor and does. Borderline first team all-stater this season and lock-down Mr. Basketball candidate next year (if he stays injury-free).

2) Austin Vetter, Bishop Ryan: Had a great state tournament. Made some nice moves in the paint. I'd like to see him and Zac Elgie go 1-on-1 and see whose face gets bloody first. I'm betting it'd be Elgie. After watching him at the state tournament, I'd be amazed if he wasn't an all-state pick.

3) Jamie Mauch, Hankinson: Not too bad of a state tournament. Proved that his numbers weren't inflated by a poor region. Pretty much locked down his all-state nod.

4) Justin Shipman, Watford City: Played at what most coaches think was "80 percent" this year and should probably still get all-state looks.

5) Rudy Young Bird, Parshall: Not too bad of a player. Seems to get things done in the post fairly well but will have to become the leader of the Braves next season without the Packineaus around to take the pressure off of him. If he proves he can do this, I'd think about moving him up this list.

Others: Logan Carlblom, Lisbon; Jacob Erhardt, Hazen; C.J. Ironheart, Four Winds.

nope, he is a decent pg, but not to be considered as top in the state

Name a better JR. point guard.
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Postby feeshattack » Mon Mar 19, 2007 2:08 pm

i guess i probably cant, cuz i havent seen very many other regions... i think erhardt is a great player, just not top 8 in the state
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Postby baller01 » Mon Mar 19, 2007 2:10 pm

feeshattack wrote:i guess i probably cant, cuz i havent seen very many other regions... i think erhardt is a great player, just not top 8 in the state

Fair enough
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Postby baseball » Mon Mar 19, 2007 2:21 pm

baller01 wrote:
feeshattack wrote:i guess i probably cant, cuz i havent seen very many other regions... i think erhardt is a great player, just not top 8 in the state

Fair enough

Holen's not top 8?
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Postby ilove_basketball » Mon Mar 19, 2007 2:29 pm

north_border_eagles2106 wrote:some from region II

NB - Tanner Carpenter, Dustyn Chale

Cavalier - Garret Brown

D/ST - Ethan Littlejohn

V/E - im not sure on the ages so i wont say any

Grafton - Anthony Kliniske, Paul Holland

Thompson - Randy Syrstad

MPCG - Ross Olsen?

I know there are more but these are ones off the top of my head

Dustyn Chale is really hot!!!!!!!!
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Postby Region 2 fan » Mon Mar 19, 2007 5:05 pm

ilove_basketball wrote:
north_border_eagles2106 wrote:some from region II

NB - Tanner Carpenter, Dustyn Chale

Cavalier - Garret Brown

D/ST - Ethan Littlejohn

V/E - im not sure on the ages so i wont say any

Grafton - Anthony Kliniske, Paul Holland

Thompson - Randy Syrstad

MPCG - Ross Olsen?

I know there are more but these are ones off the top of my head

Dustyn Chale is really hot!!!!!!!!
ok first of all Paul Holand is a sophomore and Randy Syrstad is a senior.  So let's take those two off of the list.  Your also forgetting probably the 2nd best player in the region behind Kilinskie and that's Seth Nichols from Dakota Prairie.  Only names worthy from Region 2 to be on this list are
-Anthony Kilinskie - Grafton
-Seth Nichols - Dakota Prairie
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Postby sportsperson » Mon Mar 19, 2007 5:41 pm

dmdp wrote:It goes in this order (and yes, I've seen all these kids play)

1) Austin Dufault, Killdeer: Has every D-II college in the upper Midwest foaming at the mouth over him and is probably waiting to get some D-I looks. Is a 6-7 guard who can also play just about any position on the floor and does. Borderline first team all-stater this season and lock-down Mr. Basketball candidate next year (if he stays injury-free).

2) Austin Vetter, Bishop Ryan: Had a great state tournament. Made some nice moves in the paint. I'd like to see him and Zac Elgie go 1-on-1 and see whose face gets bloody first. I'm betting it'd be Elgie. After watching him at the state tournament, I'd be amazed if he wasn't an all-state pick.

3) Jamie Mauch, Hankinson: Not too bad of a state tournament. Proved that his numbers weren't inflated by a poor region. Pretty much locked down his all-state nod.

4) Justin Shipman, Watford City: Played at what most coaches think was "80 percent" this year and should probably still get all-state looks.

5) Rudy Young Bird, Parshall: Not too bad of a player. Seems to get things done in the post fairly well but will have to become the leader of the Braves next season without the Packineaus around to take the pressure off of him. If he proves he can do this, I'd think about moving him up this list.

Others: Logan Carlblom, Lisbon; Jacob Erhardt, Hazen; C.J. Ironheart, Four Winds.

I like your top 5 but the order is a little bit off.  I'd say Dufault, Mauch, Vetter, Young Bird, and then Shipman.  Dufault, Mauch, and Vetter are all great mostly because of their versatility. They are all big guys that can step behind the arc and hit shots when needed. Dufault is first because it is so so hard to guard a 6'7" kid that can shoot the rock. I put Mauch ahead of Vetter because I think he's more dangerous with his ability to take you off the dribble and he creates a little more havoc on defense with his length. Young Bird gets my nod over Shipman because he is a more polished scorer and a fantastic rebounder. Shipman is talented too but he gets a lot of garbage points off of offensive boards and his teammates creating shots for him.  Being able to rebound like he does and find openings is an overlooked skill but I still can't say he is better than Rudy. From last year to this year, I would have to say Rudy Young Bird is easily the most improved player in the state that I have seen play.
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Postby nativegolfer » Tue Mar 20, 2007 4:07 am

sportsperson wrote:
dmdp wrote:It goes in this order (and yes, I've seen all these kids play)

1) Austin Dufault, Killdeer: Has every D-II college in the upper Midwest foaming at the mouth over him and is probably waiting to get some D-I looks. Is a 6-7 guard who can also play just about any position on the floor and does. Borderline first team all-stater this season and lock-down Mr. Basketball candidate next year (if he stays injury-free).

2) Austin Vetter, Bishop Ryan: Had a great state tournament. Made some nice moves in the paint. I'd like to see him and Zac Elgie go 1-on-1 and see whose face gets bloody first. I'm betting it'd be Elgie. After watching him at the state tournament, I'd be amazed if he wasn't an all-state pick.

3) Jamie Mauch, Hankinson: Not too bad of a state tournament. Proved that his numbers weren't inflated by a poor region. Pretty much locked down his all-state nod.

4) Justin Shipman, Watford City: Played at what most coaches think was "80 percent" this year and should probably still get all-state looks.

5) Rudy Young Bird, Parshall: Not too bad of a player. Seems to get things done in the post fairly well but will have to become the leader of the Braves next season without the Packineaus around to take the pressure off of him. If he proves he can do this, I'd think about moving him up this list.

Others: Logan Carlblom, Lisbon; Jacob Erhardt, Hazen; C.J. Ironheart, Four Winds.

I like your top 5 but the order is a little bit off.  I'd say Dufault, Mauch, Vetter, Young Bird, and then Shipman.  Dufault, Mauch, and Vetter are all great mostly because of their versatility. They are all big guys that can step behind the arc and hit shots when needed. Dufault is first because it is so so hard to guard a 6'7" kid that can shoot the rock. I put Mauch ahead of Vetter because I think he's more dangerous with his ability to take you off the dribble and he creates a little more havoc on defense with his length. Young Bird gets my nod over Shipman because he is a more polished scorer and a fantastic rebounder. Shipman is talented too but he gets a lot of garbage points off of offensive boards and his teammates creating shots for him.  Being able to rebound like he does and find openings is an overlooked skill but I still can't say he is better than Rudy. From last year to this year, I would have to say Rudy Young Bird is easily the most improved player in the state that I have seen play.

I watched Hankinson play 3 games this past weekend and can't recall Mauch taking anyone to the hole or posting up, for that matter.   He's a stud athlete, though who needs to work more on taking advantage of his athletic ability. 
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Postby north_border_eagles2106 » Tue Mar 20, 2007 6:37 am

Region 2 fan wrote:
ilove_basketball wrote:
north_border_eagles2106 wrote:some from region II

NB - Tanner Carpenter, Dustyn Chale

Cavalier - Garret Brown

D/ST - Ethan Littlejohn

V/E - im not sure on the ages so i wont say any

Grafton - Anthony Kliniske, Paul Holland

Thompson - Randy Syrstad

MPCG - Ross Olsen?

I know there are more but these are ones off the top of my head

Dustyn Chale is really hot!!!!!!!!
ok first of all Paul Holand is a sophomore and Randy Syrstad is a senior.  So let's take those two off of the list.  Your also forgetting probably the 2nd best player in the region behind Kilinskie and that's Seth Nichols from Dakota Prairie.  Only names worthy from Region 2 to be on this list are
-Anthony Kilinskie - Grafton
-Seth Nichols - Dakota Prairie
I know I meant Bryan Syrstad instead of Randy and Andrew Wysoski instead of holland, settle down man.  I put that on there a long time ago before I had seen Nichols play.  If you can see where it says "I know there are more but these are ones off the top of my head" it means that I'm just putting the ones I know from memory and I just put the wrong Syrstad brother and got mixed up with the guards from Grafton.  I don't think that there are only two players from Region II that are "worthy" of being put in top Juniors either.  You make it sound like we are handing out Mr. Basketball to these players.  I would also say that Severson from Dakota Praire deserves to be on this list as well.  Next year him and Nichols could lead DP to the state tournament.
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Postby nc » Tue Mar 20, 2007 11:21 am

Seth nichols is by far the best junior in the state. He had 21 points per game and 10 rebounds plus three block.

 
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Postby ClassBBall » Tue Mar 20, 2007 11:31 am

nc wrote:Seth nichols is by far the best junior in the state. He had 21 points per game and 10 rebounds plus three block.

 


You can't make this assumption based purely on stats...If you did so, I'd still take Mauch at 17 pt/game, 11.3 boards, 3 Blocks, 4.4 Steals, and 2.6 Assists

(with Dufalt #1 not based purely on stats)
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