WalkingStick wrote:Very intriguing Non-North Dakota games on the schedule this year:
December 18th: vs. Byron, MN in a shootout in the Cities
December 30th: vs. Canton, SD @ Sanford Pentagon (one day after playing Beulah in Minot)
January 15th: vs. Morris Area, MN in a shootout in the Cities
WalkingStick wrote:Very intriguing Non-North Dakota games on the schedule this year:
December 18th: vs. Byron, MN in a shootout in the Cities
December 30th: vs. Canton, SD @ Sanford Pentagon (one day after playing Beulah in Minot)
January 15th: vs. Morris Area, MN in a shootout in the Cities
The Schwab wrote:WalkingStick wrote:Very intriguing Non-North Dakota games on the schedule this year:
December 18th: vs. Byron, MN in a shootout in the Cities
December 30th: vs. Canton, SD @ Sanford Pentagon (one day after playing Beulah in Minot)
January 15th: vs. Morris Area, MN in a shootout in the Cities
The two Minnesota schools are pretty solid every year. I was hoping they'd pair them up against a stronger team in the Pentagon shootout.
classB4ever wrote:WalkingStick wrote:Very intriguing Non-North Dakota games on the schedule this year:
December 18th: vs. Byron, MN in a shootout in the Cities
December 30th: vs. Canton, SD @ Sanford Pentagon (one day after playing Beulah in Minot)
January 15th: vs. Morris Area, MN in a shootout in the Cities
FWIW - Was referring to ND class b play in my original post.
ND Basketball Fan wrote:The Schwab wrote:WalkingStick wrote:Very intriguing Non-North Dakota games on the schedule this year:
December 18th: vs. Byron, MN in a shootout in the Cities
December 30th: vs. Canton, SD @ Sanford Pentagon (one day after playing Beulah in Minot)
January 15th: vs. Morris Area, MN in a shootout in the Cities
The two Minnesota schools are pretty solid every year. I was hoping they'd pair them up against a stronger team in the Pentagon shootout.
Byron has a strong team every year. This will be an intriguing game to see how Enderlin does. I think their lack of depth will end up hurting them in this one however.
The Schwab wrote:WalkingStick wrote:Very intriguing Non-North Dakota games on the schedule this year:
December 18th: vs. Byron, MN in a shootout in the Cities
December 30th: vs. Canton, SD @ Sanford Pentagon (one day after playing Beulah in Minot)
January 15th: vs. Morris Area, MN in a shootout in the Cities
The two Minnesota schools are pretty solid every year. I was hoping they'd pair them up against a stronger team in the Pentagon shootout.
No shot clock in Minnesota at present. Changes the game significantly, or could. I don't know about SD.The Schwab wrote:I guess I see the benefit in playing tough out of state teams. Playing teams with different styles helps prepare you for a whole set of things you might see come tournament time.
leroybla wrote:No shot clock in Minnesota at present. Changes the game significantly, or could. I don't know about SD.The Schwab wrote:I guess I see the benefit in playing tough out of state teams. Playing teams with different styles helps prepare you for a whole set of things you might see come tournament time.
leroybla wrote:No shot clock in Minnesota at present. Changes the game significantly, or could. I don't know about SD.The Schwab wrote:I guess I see the benefit in playing tough out of state teams. Playing teams with different styles helps prepare you for a whole set of things you might see come tournament time.
justplayalready wrote:Whatever happened to playing the teams in your district and/or region twice? a game at each teams home court?.. to me that would show who may be the better team ... Enderlin would have just as much competition playing Kindred, Casselton, OG, and CC twice versus playing a team in timbuktu that has no meaning whatsoever on how you stack up against the other teams in the state. Heck I would like to see them play 4WM twice...or HCV...
Class B has become so "parity-less" that the top 30 -40 teams have no business playing the other 60...district or region teams included...I'd argue that a team like Enderlin hasn't made it out of R1, is that they are forced to play R1 teams...I'd trade my 50 point wins for good wins or close losses against real competition
The Schwab wrote:I guess I see the benefit in playing tough out of state teams. Playing teams with different styles helps prepare you for a whole set of things you might see come tournament time.
BelfieldBantams wrote:The Schwab wrote:I guess I see the benefit in playing tough out of state teams. Playing teams with different styles helps prepare you for a whole set of things you might see come tournament time.
I definitely see the benefit of playing these different teams from out of state. The main issues I have with it is kids should be in school. A long bus ride on a school night does not help the educational process. It's an issue in all sports, not just basketball. State semi-final football two years in a row Bowman has monster bus rides and misses the entire day of school on Friday. 2nd issue I have is most of the budget comes from tax payer money. Why are we using tax money to send kids all over the place to play sports? Now if it is fundraised (Enderlin has done that in the past for baseball) then that's a different story. But if not, then it should be looked at.
BelfieldBantams wrote:The Schwab wrote:I guess I see the benefit in playing tough out of state teams. Playing teams with different styles helps prepare you for a whole set of things you might see come tournament time.
I definitely see the benefit of playing these different teams from out of state. The main issues I have with it is kids should be in school. A long bus ride on a school night does not help the educational process. It's an issue in all sports, not just basketball. State semi-final football two years in a row Bowman has monster bus rides and misses the entire day of school on Friday. 2nd issue I have is most of the budget comes from tax payer money. Why are we using tax money to send kids all over the place to play sports? Now if it is fundraised (Enderlin has done that in the past for baseball) then that's a different story. But if not, then it should be looked at.
maddog1971 wrote:This is my favorite time of year. Everyone talks about how great Enderlin is if there bigs play big and they have a great year shooting 3 pointers and then they get on a big floor and get run out of the gym.
YES I completely agree they have the size and skill level to win every game but do they have the coaching and attitude to win it all..... Team comes first... and I have not seen them play team comes first ever. a team like the Grovers will run them into the ground with a bunch of 5'8 kids on a big floor.
lennylive wrote:I looked at the schedules of alot of teams..and only a few are playing out of state teams..and those games arent 3-5 hours away. Class A doesnt play out of state.. they play each other twice.. dont even venture to the other side of the state to find a team to compete against...
I just think that it would be more beneficial to play in-state competition that you may end up playing at state.
JMO... you dont need a long bus ride to get comaraderie ... that should happen at school, practice, etc etc
There is nothing wrong with going out of state to play a different style of team...I just know there are several teams in ND within a 3 hour drive that could give just as much competition is all.
balla45 wrote:Just some context on the 3 out of state games that Enderlin plays.
Byron features 6'9" Ahjany Lee. At one point he had a Kansas offer and he is committed to St. Thomas.
Morris Area features 6'8" Jackson Loge. At one point he had offers from UND and Toledo, and he is committed to Augustana.
Canton features 6'8" junior Jacob Vande Weerd. I understand he is getting NAIA and Division 2 looks.
It would be challenging to find 3 North Dakota teams with quality 6'8" - 6'9" bigs. I would argue that it would be impossible to replicate that against ND teams without convincing the Class A schools to all do it. The Enderlin coaching staff also did a nice job in securing a scrimmage against Bismarck and Treysen Eaglestaff.
I have no idea if Enderlin will or will not win state this season. I feel envious of any person who got to watch Four Winds @ Enderlin in person.
Four Winds has so much offensive fire power and team speed, and wow are there some athletes. Deng Deng is super impressive athletically and I imagine he will have a plethora of schools going after him the next few years. Wow is Deng impressive. Yankton really stands out with his ability to score. Pearson and Left Bear are nice slashers and play makers.
Joe Hurlburt is a generational talent and I think he has a legitimate shot of playing in the NBA at some point in his life. Brian Qvale got very close and his skillset as a senior in high school was no where near the skillset that Joe utilizes.
What I loved about this game is all the "studs" showed up and did their thing and it was a battle to the last minute.
I think it says a lot for the depth and talent of Class B basketball that some of the generational talents it has produced are not even able to make it to the state tournament, most recently I would use Austin Dufault as this example.
justplayalready wrote:Whatever happened to playing the teams in your district and/or region twice? a game at each teams home court?.. to me that would show who may be the better team ... Enderlin would have just as much competition playing Kindred, Casselton, OG, and CC twice versus playing a team in timbuktu that has no meaning whatsoever on how you stack up against the other teams in the state. Heck I would like to see them play 4WM twice...or HCV...
Class B has become so "parity-less" that the top 30 -40 teams have no business playing the other 60...district or region teams included...I'd argue that a team like Enderlin hasn't made it out of R1, is that they are forced to play R1 teams...I'd trade my 50 point wins for good wins or close losses against real competition
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