North Dakota Preps

These are the 2012 estimations that I found on Wikipedia. I only used Cando out of the towns in North Stars co op, and Linton out of the Linton-HMB co op

Fargo- 109,779
Beulah- 3,142
Rugby- 2,946
New Town- 2,249
Cavalier- 1,276
Cando- 1,150
Linton- 1,070
Flasher- 229

9 - 12 population:

Rugby 286 (7-12)
Beulah 224
Oak Grove - 199 (7-12)
New Town - 180
Linton HMB- 153 (Linton 116, HMB 37)
Cavalier - 111
Flasher - 88
North Star - 82

It seems like NS is always the smallest school in the field (when they get there)

How does Flasher get 88 hs kids from a town of 200??

ndlionsfan wrote:How does Flasher get 88 hs kids from a town of 200??

The town is small so I'm guessing most of the kids live on farms/ranches. I don't think they have 88 students, I think its under 80.

I'm going by the official 2013-14 NDHSAA Directory of Member Schools.

I'm also pretty sure that's Rugby's 7-12 numbers. Their last graduating class was in the high 30's or low 40's. If that were 9-12 numbers, that would have them at about 72 kids per class. I know that isn't right. That number should probably be in the low 200's.

Sniper wrote:

ndlionsfan wrote:How does Flasher get 88 hs kids from a town of 200??

The town is small so I'm guessing most of the kids live on farms/ranches. I don't think they have 88 students, I think its under 80.

80 or 88 is just splitting hairs. Most towns with 200 people don't even have a school anymore, but flasher must be close to 200 in k-12. And most kids living on farms is true for 75% of towns in ND.

I'm not real familiar with the area, but I would guess there's a good distance between towns out there, so maybe the school district would cover a lot more square miles than would be the case in the eastern part of the state--hence more farm kids than town kids.

vikingman wrote:9 - 12 population:

Rugby 286
Beulah 224
Oak Grove - 199
New Town - 180
Linton HMB- 153
Cavalier - 111
Flasher - 88
North Star - 82

It seems like NS is always the smallest school in the field (when they get there)

ahhh...Oak Grove is 199 6-12; roughly 140 in the HS alone.

Run4Fun2009 wrote:
ahhh...Oak Grove is 199 6-12; roughly 140 in the HS alone.

35 kids a grade 9-12 and 20 6-8. Why are the classes so much bigger in HS?

Flip wrote:

Run4Fun2009 wrote:
ahhh...Oak Grove is 199 6-12; roughly 140 in the HS alone.

35 kids a grade 9-12 and 20 6-8. Why are the classes so much bigger in HS?

I just re-checked the school numbers...146 in the HS and 66 in Junior High (7-8) (6th grade is included at North Campus - it has 34 students).

So the number on the NDHSAA is relatively close to a 7-12 listing (I'm sure there were additional kids that joined OG after the NDHSAA asked for the number).

The key with HS numbers is two things: 1. How many international kids come each year (always varies); 2. OG tends to get a few kids each year to add to the freshman class from either Grace Lutheran or other public schools in Metro area.

Sticks11 wrote:I'm also pretty sure that's Rugby's 7-12 numbers. Their last graduating class was in the high 30's or low 40's. If that were 9-12 numbers, that would have them at about 72 kids per class. I know that isn't right. That number should probably be in the low 200's.

I'd agree. Numbers I've seen before have always had Rugby around the 200 mark for 9-12

Numbers from the 2013-14 DPI educational directory. I usually trust the data from the state's public instruction website most.

Beulah - 229
Cavalier - 106
Flasher - 91
Linton/HMB - 140
New Town - 152
North Star - 84
Oak Grove - 160
Rugby - 176 (Do they have another community playing with them for the other site's number to be 288?)

Sorry -- the first few entries I looked at all indicated 9-12, so after that, I didn't bother looking. Oak Grove and Rugby both were listing 7-12. I've updated my post. Numbers from the book are slightly different from what MTfan has.

I think its important to Point out that Cavalier has been on its own since the beginning, never a co-op in Basketball....somebody told me there will be no sophomore going out for basketball next season...not one..

kids are wrestling more now with PCN (which has a stellar program goin on)....but bottom line, the community is pretty self sufficient, and the community really comes together for sports and school, which is so important IMO....enrollment numbers are not near as big as some people think...

good luck to all the towns...not sure what this thread means.....

is it BIG dont spell BAD, or is it BIG is BAD...

North Star 84 kids seem small to other parts of the state but in District 8 I believe it would only behind Langdon in size of high school size. I believe Rolla and Benson county are about the same size but in I am not sure about Benson county they could be a little bit bigger. District 7 has some larger teams in the region like Carrington, Harvey WC, Fourwinds, and New Rockford but other teams in region are at about same size as North Star. In region 4 eight out of thirteen have enrollments under 100 there's some big differences in enrollment sizes between regions and it is quite significant. Schools like Northstar and Cavalier that have whole school system and sports under one system and one place to play and practice have advantage over the coop schools with about same size enrollments. They don't have travel times and kids spread out to put teams together like some of coop schools. They don't loose hour of practice time as well as ware and tare on the kids traveling to become a team. Also goes for open gyms and just getting together to play together as a team.

Rolla is right in the low 80's for enrollment, too. BC would be just over 100 between the two schools. St. John has to be around 100 as well. Overall, region 4 is pretty even across the board with most schools between 75-125 in enrollments. Carrington is obviously larger, H-WC and FW-M slightly larger with the two schools, and Munich-Starkweather and Midkota/Kensal the smallest two. Realignment will change next year if the plan remains the same. Carrington and Midkota will be gone. DP and Dunseith move in so it will be even more balanced enrollment wise with M-S dissolving, too.

I do agree with your opinion on schools all under one roof have a slight advantage versus co-ops with the travel and trying to get all the kids together in the offseason.

B-oldtimer wrote:North Star 84 kids seem small to other parts of the state but in District 8 I believe it would only behind Langdon in size of high school size. I believe Rolla and Benson county are about the same size but in I am not sure about Benson county they could be a little bit bigger. District 7 has some larger teams in the region like Carrington, Harvey WC, Fourwinds, and New Rockford but other teams in region are at about same size as North Star. In region 4 eight out of thirteen have enrollments under 100 there's some big differences in enrollment sizes between regions and it is quite significant. Schools like Northstar and Cavalier that have whole school system and sports under one system and one place to play and practice have advantage over the coop schools with about same size enrollments. They don't have travel times and kids spread out to put teams together like some of coop schools. They don't loose hour of practice time as well as ware and tare on the kids traveling to become a team. Also goes for open gyms and just getting together to play together as a team.

Hence my argument for consolidation vs Co-op....there is still probably more travel time but its to and from the stationary location... not to one gym one day, and a different one the next, and so on and so forth....and actually Cavalier is co-oped in every sport except Football and Boys and Girls Basketball, Girls VB...
I dont know if you'ed call it an "advantage" but its sure a convenience

So since there always seems to be someone coming to the defense of the privates here's an honest question. Of the kids that attend Oak Grove: How many are special education? How many have IEPs/504s? How many are free and reduced lunch? I would like honest answers to these

Howie wrote:So since there always seems to be someone coming to the defense of the privates here's an honest question. Of the kids that attend Oak Grove: How many are special education? How many have IEPs/504s? How many are free and reduced lunch? I would like honest answers to these

That is private information that schools don't make available, but I think it is fair to say that private schools have very, very few students with special needs, IEP's/504's, etc.... I would believe that they have a kids who qualify for free & reduced lunch though. Not having special needs students saves those schools a lot of money and allows them to use their resources in other areas.

I would think private schools wouldn't fall under the government lunch program so they couldn't qualify for free/reduced meals

You would think food is included in tuition or room & board( I don't know do they have dorms?)

justplayalready wrote:You would think food is included in tuition or room & board( I don't know do they have dorms?)

www.oakgrovelutheran.com

check it out!

justplayalready wrote:You would think food is included in tuition or room & board( I don't know do they have dorms?)

My source told me lunch was included in tuition. She wasn't quite sure when they stopped on campus housing she thought maybe 70s or 80s.

There's been quite a bit written here regarding schools and their size. I have a question. Does anyone know what the school sizes were for classification in A, B, and C schools back in the 50's and early 60's. My old HS(Mercer), had 41 students in grades 9-12 in my senior year (55). We were definitely Class "C".