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Vertical

PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 2:24 pm
by winner-within
to back off of the pressure of the tourns coming, lets talk inches in the vertical jump or leap whatever ya call it

we talk about Dunks but who's feet get the Highest off the floor and

the two most explosive jumpers in the NE corner are definitely Chrest-Cav and Volk-NB
both IMO, have to be squeakin in on 35"

Contreras-graf also has a good verticle

Re: Vertical

PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 3:22 pm
by sportsphenom
Olson- Lamoure, one of the best leapers I've seen, only 6'1 but jumps like he's 6'6-6'7.

Re: Vertical

PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 3:25 pm
by winner-within
sportsphenom wrote:Olson- Lamoure, one of the best leapers I've seen, only 6'1 but jumps like he's 6'6-6'7.



saw him at state last year....unreal

Re: Vertical

PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 4:07 pm
by winner-within
what made me think of this thread was John Wall's dunk sat night in the dunk off...whoa!
you dont have to be 6'7" to dunk..lol

Re: Vertical

PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 4:43 pm
by Bison-Vikes #1
Jesse "The Float" Vote. winner, he's not a player, but is an assistant coach. The guy has dropped 55+ from his college football days, and is getting ready for a marathon this summer. Watched him playing pickup ball last night. He's looking fast, agile and has monster hops. Who says, "What goes up, has to come down?" 8)

Re: Vertical

PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 4:47 pm
by winner-within
Bison-Vikes #1 wrote:Jesse "The Float" Vote. winner, he's not a player, but is an assistant coach. The guy has dropped 55+ from his college football days, and is getting ready for a marathon this summer. Watched him playing pickup ball last night. He's looking fast, agile and has monster hops. Who says, "What goes up, has to come down?" 8)



I believe that...its not possible to stay up even 1 second (sports science) but some guys make it look like they can fly...haha...fun stuff


The Hyper-Physics site at Georgia Tech tells me that to attain a vertical airtime of 1 full second, a person would have to have a vertical launch velocity of almost 11 miles per hour, and have the bottoms of their feet reach just over 4 feet off the ground at the peak of flight.

so when they said Spud Webbs vert. was 48" Dominic Wilkens was 48" and Jordans was 44"...all amazing leapers, they still came in at .9 something seconds ..wth

Re: Vertical

PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 1:02 am
by balla45
Casey Walcker from Beulah is around 42". James Richman from
Maple Valley is 35".

Re: Vertical

PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 9:17 am
by winner-within
balla45 wrote:Casey Walcker from Beulah is around 42". James Richman from
Maple Valley is 35".


It isnt that I dont believe you Balla...but I'd have to see it to believe it...Wow.. :)
serious ups!

Re: Vertical

PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 11:15 am
by Bison-Vikes #1
winner-within wrote:
balla45 wrote:Casey Walcker from Beulah is around 42". James Richman from
Maple Valley is 35"
.


It isnt that I dont believe you Balla...but I'd have to see it to believe it...Wow.. :)
serious ups!


Have heard young Mr. Richman can touch the top of the bank board. At 6'-7", his wingspan and the 35" vertical, it makes sense.

Re: Vertical

PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 11:23 am
by winner-within
Bison-Vikes #1 wrote:
winner-within wrote:
balla45 wrote:Casey Walcker from Beulah is around 42". James Richman from
Maple Valley is 35"
.


It isnt that I dont believe you Balla...but I'd have to see it to believe it...Wow.. :)
serious ups!


Have heard young Mr. Richman can touch the top of the bank board. At 6'-7", his wingspan and the 35" vertical, it makes sense.



sounds wild...wheres his Chris Paul point guard for some serious ally-oops... :D

Re: Vertical

PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 11:33 am
by Flip
Bison-Vikes #1 wrote:
Have heard young Mr. Richman can touch the top of the bank board. At 6'-7", his wingspan and the 35" vertical, it makes sense.


I really doubt he can do that.


Re: Vertical

PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 11:41 am
by balla45
winner-within wrote:
balla45 wrote:Casey Walcker from Beulah is around 42". James Richman from
Maple Valley is 35".


It isnt that I dont believe you Balla...but I'd have to see it to believe it...Wow.. :)
serious ups!


Casey Walcker is one of the most impressive dunkers I have ever seen in North Dakota, maybe the most impressive. He played for us 2 years ago as an 8th grader and could windmill. Again, windmilling as an 8th grader.

In summer basketball, you are allowed to dunk in warm ups. Richman and Weisbeck did some absolutely ridiculous things for us.

This doesn't show a maximum vertical, but here is a typical Richman tip slam.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vop5cJCrexg

Here are 2 of Weisbeck's best dunks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=613Dpg7nWQg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fp0sjth_k1s

I don't have any video of Walcker.

And this is just a random dunk video, but here is the best 8th grade basketball player I have ever seen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rol85KIukFE

Re: Vertical

PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 11:43 am
by balla45
Flip wrote:
Bison-Vikes #1 wrote:
Have heard young Mr. Richman can touch the top of the bank board. At 6'-7", his wingspan and the 35" vertical, it makes sense.


I really doubt he can do that.



Pre-ACL tear he could touch the top of the white box. Actually isn't the rarest thing. I saw Esley Thorton do that as well. Heard Olson gets up around there too, but I have not personally witnessed it.

Re: Vertical

PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 11:46 am
by Bison-Vikes #1
Flip wrote:
Bison-Vikes #1 wrote:
Have heard young Mr. Richman can touch the top of the bank board. At 6'-7", his wingspan and the 35" vertical, it makes sense.


I really doubt he can do that.


Was thinking the backboard was at 12' when it is really 13'. 9' (min.) reach plus 36" hops, would have made sense.

Re: Vertical

PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 11:51 am
by sportsphenom
balla45 wrote:
Flip wrote:
Bison-Vikes #1 wrote:
Have heard young Mr. Richman can touch the top of the bank board. At 6'-7", his wingspan and the 35" vertical, it makes sense.


I really doubt he can do that.



Pre-ACL tear he could touch the top of the white box. Actually isn't the rarest thing. I saw Esley Thorton do that as well. Heard Olson gets up around there too, but I have not personally witnessed it.


If this is true than Olson's vertical must be quite a bit more since he is giving up quite a few inches in height.

Re: Vertical

PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 12:02 pm
by RebelsThunder
sportsphenom wrote:Olson- Lamoure, one of the best leapers I've seen, only 6'1 but jumps like he's 6'6-6'7.




I just saw him last night at districts he got a alley oop dang near touched the top of the square but couldn't handle the pass and earlier this year he had a sweet block of the back board on some guy from North Sargent s lay up it was just unreal!!

Re: Vertical

PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 12:22 pm
by winner-within
all great points and very good stuff...remember over 30" vertical is very rare in HS
..even at the NFL combine CorDarelle Patterson (vikings receiver) had a 34" vert.
... we had a device we made in shop class in HS that we attached to the brace that went out and held up the Hoop...It had swinging sticks we painted different colors that represented 9 feet to 10.5 feet...6 sticks
standing right underneath (like they do at the combine) you jump up and see what one you can get to swing...10' 6" is tough...real tough..I will never forget it was Yellow... :D

I could consistently get the 10'3" green haha... but the yellow one just once in a while...

some guys are 2 feet leapers Blake Griffin .. some sky off 1 (LeBron)

Re: Vertical

PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 6:09 pm
by beachy
D'angelo had a great block although got called a goal tending and this is the highest I have seen him get up. Pretty good for the end of 4th quarter after a long game..


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Re: Vertical

PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 1:17 pm
by B-oldtimer
In my experience one of the best leapers I saw in class b basketball and even improved after getting to college was Allen Dvorak of Minto. I think he had around a 40 inch vertical and with his long arm had some impressive dunks in college basketball. There were many small guards that played back I can think of that had some serious leaping abilities too because they get above rim to rebound and block shots too I experienced.

Re: Vertical

PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 2:02 pm
by east sider
balla45 wrote:
winner-within wrote:
balla45 wrote:Casey Walcker from Beulah is around 42". James Richman from
Maple Valley is 35".


It isnt that I dont believe you Balla...but I'd have to see it to believe it...Wow.. :)
serious ups!


Casey Walcker is one of the most impressive dunkers I have ever seen in North Dakota, maybe the most impressive. He played for us 2 years ago as an 8th grader and could windmill. Again, windmilling as an 8th grader.

In summer basketball, you are allowed to dunk in warm ups. Richman and Weisbeck did some absolutely ridiculous things for us.

This doesn't show a maximum vertical, but here is a typical Richman tip slam.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vop5cJCrexg

Here are 2 of Weisbeck's best dunks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=613Dpg7nWQg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fp0sjth_k1s

I don't have any video of Walcker.

And this is just a random dunk video, but here is the best 8th grade basketball player I have ever seen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rol85KIukFE


Looks like Weisbeck has some great hops. How would you compare him athletically and skills to Arvidson from RR a few years ago?

Re: Vertical

PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 2:03 pm
by east sider
BTW, Richman's video didn't work for me

Re: Vertical

PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 2:04 pm
by Run4Fun2009
east sider wrote:BTW, Richman's video didn't work for me


me either.

Re: Vertical

PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 2:04 pm
by balla45
B-oldtimer wrote:In my experience one of the best leapers I saw in class b basketball and even improved after getting to college was Allen Dvorak of Minto. I think he had around a 40 inch vertical and with his long arm had some impressive dunks in college basketball. There were many small guards that played back I can think of that had some serious leaping abilities too because they get above rim to rebound and block shots too I experienced.


Grant's dad by chance?

Re: Vertical

PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 2:06 pm
by balla45
I will move Richman's video from facebook to youtube later. I forgot that my profile was private. My apologies.

Weisbeck and Arvidson. Actually pretty similar. I think Weisbeck is a better pure scorer but not as good of a shooter. They are pretty similar in that they score going right really, really, really well. Weisbeck has a better middle game where I think Arvidson is more deadly from deep. Actually are very similar players and athletes. Ben is a lot bigger as far as total body strength at the same time though.

Re: Vertical

PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 2:26 pm
by winner-within
balla45 wrote:I will move Richman's video from facebook to youtube later. I forgot that my profile was private. My apologies.

Weisbeck and Arvidson. Actually pretty similar. I think Weisbeck is a better pure scorer but not as good of a shooter. They are pretty similar in that they score going right really, really, really well. Weisbeck has a better middle game where I think Arvidson is more deadly from deep. Actually are very similar players and athletes. Ben is a lot bigger as far as total body strength at the same time though.


Weisbeck is a 2 feet jumper I see...as he gets older he will get his timing down better...hes doing a little stutter to get it right...he is truly a good jumper though..How tall?