balla45 wrote:What would a one class system accomplish? It would just eliminate current Class B teams an opportunity to play in a state tournament.
ndlionsfan wrote:North Border isn't what I would call a true consolidation by your standards winner. Yes they are one district now, but there are still school in each of those towns so in reality its nothing more than a co-op. It's not your "build a new school out in the middle of nowhere" true consolidation. I mean, do students in Pembina get any more educational opportunities (or even extra curricular for that matter) since they share the same name with Walhalla and Neche? No.
winner-within wrote:I'll take one also over 3 but I would go further and say that instead of co-ops or super co-ops that we do full consolidation like North Border did years back....but now Cavalier is co-oping with NB and picking and choosing what sport to do it in, and that is something I dont totally agree with either...Consolidate, get the numbers up, then Both Academics (most important) and the sports are enhanced
lovwatchingsports wrote:winner-within wrote:I'll take one also over 3 but I would go further and say that instead of co-ops or super co-ops that we do full consolidation like North Border did years back....but now Cavalier is co-oping with NB and picking and choosing what sport to do it in, and that is something I dont totally agree with either...Consolidate, get the numbers up, then Both Academics (most important) and the sports are enhanced
Numbers would not really be up. You take 3 schools with an A and a B squad. lets say 20 kids 8 - 12, that's 60 kids. You would go to one with an A, B, C squad with about 30 - 35 kids. Minot has how many kids in High school 10 - 12 and only has A and B squads from what I here. That's less kids I do believe. Academics better maybe, my cousins in Bismarck had to take summer classes because they where in Music and Band, the only way they could get the classes they needed to graduate. that does not happen in a smaller school.
winner-within wrote:ndlionsfan wrote:North Border isn't what I would call a true consolidation by your standards winner. Yes they are one district now, but there are still school in each of those towns so in reality its nothing more than a co-op. It's not your "build a new school out in the middle of nowhere" true consolidation. I mean, do students in Pembina get any more educational opportunities (or even extra curricular for that matter) since they share the same name with Walhalla and Neche? No.
I dont set standards, I confer on a Forum (exactly what its here for).... I would never want it built in the "middle of nowhere" (so dont try and make my idea sound lame please) but they could certainly use my tax dollars to build it in a sensible place, and yes its (NB) a consolidation
I said not one thing about "educational opportunities"
ndlionsfan wrote:winner-within wrote:ndlionsfan wrote:North Border isn't what I would call a true consolidation by your standards winner. Yes they are one district now, but there are still school in each of those towns so in reality its nothing more than a co-op. It's not your "build a new school out in the middle of nowhere" true consolidation. I mean, do students in Pembina get any more educational opportunities (or even extra curricular for that matter) since they share the same name with Walhalla and Neche? No.
I dont set standards, I confer on a Forum (exactly what its here for).... I would never want it built in the "middle of nowhere" (so dont try and make my idea sound lame please) but they could certainly use my tax dollars to build it in a sensible place, and yes its (NB) a consolidation
I said not one thing about "educational opportunities"
I just wish you were able to stick with one stance. the comments I made were from previous arguments in other forums you have made. That's when you have always argued that "true" consolidation shouldn't be done for sports but for academic opportunities. That's where you have said get 4-5 towns together and build a school in the middle. That's why I made that point as NB doesn't fit your educational consolidation model. That's why I'm surprised you used that example. Your ideas before have always been getting the students under one roof.
woodchuck10 wrote:Just saying that if you threw Belcourt and Devils Lake in Region 4; GF Central and GFRR in Region 2; Jamestown and Valley city in Region 3; Minot in Region 6; Williston in Region 8; Dickinson in Region 7; and Wahpeton in Region 1. Would those teams goto state every year? No. These would make for some great Region tourneys.
Yes I agree that just shear volume of Fargo and Bismarck teams would make it hard for the teams like Flasher, Kindred, Enderlin, or Turtle Lake to compete for a Region Title and State tournament berth. But in these other areas it would and could work.
I do like the two Class system we have now. I think more A's and B's should play during the regular season. But if you're asking me about having a three class system, I would take a one class over three every day.
balla45 wrote:woodchuck10 wrote:Just saying that if you threw Belcourt and Devils Lake in Region 4; GF Central and GFRR in Region 2; Jamestown and Valley city in Region 3; Minot in Region 6; Williston in Region 8; Dickinson in Region 7; and Wahpeton in Region 1. Would those teams goto state every year? No. These would make for some great Region tourneys.
Yes I agree that just shear volume of Fargo and Bismarck teams would make it hard for the teams like Flasher, Kindred, Enderlin, or Turtle Lake to compete for a Region Title and State tournament berth. But in these other areas it would and could work.
I do like the two Class system we have now. I think more A's and B's should play during the regular season. But if you're asking me about having a three class system, I would take a one class over three every day.
Hate this idea. Right now, talent is heavily concentrated in
Bismarck and Fargo. There is no reason a Jamestown plays in a state tournament and a Century, Saint Mary's, or Century is home. With this proposed plan, that is likely to happen. Would you really like a state tournament where the one team from Bismarck, the one team from Minot, the one team from Fargo, and the one team from Grand Forks beat up on teams by huge margins because they aren't state caliber teams?
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