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Re: Best player in region 1?

Postby OKCfan » Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:29 am

balla45 wrote:I do not agree with your opinion that basketball is only about speed. I think Richman made tremendous strides as an offensive player and as a post defender this year. Actually has shown flashes of a 15 foot jump shot. Is it a go to move? No. In Class B ND basketball, I think it is a very intelligent play to consistently turn around and dunk, when you are able to do so on a consistent basis. Also has dramatically expanded his face up ability and ability to attack out of that.



Richman scored 6 points against F/S-H/P this week. And just in case anyone doesn't know what that acronym stands for, it's Finley-Sharon-Hope-Page, and they are 4-12 this year. Checking the box score too, they were tied at halftime, so it's not like he sat the entire 4th quarter. Dunking may be a nice attribute for a player in HS, but clearly his offensive game hasn't developed enough if he's scoring single digits against a team of that caliber. Could be a rude awakening for him next year (if he chooses to play college ball) when everyone his size can not only dunk but also compliment that atheletic ability with a variety of post moves.
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Re: Best player in region 1?

Postby ND-is-#1 » Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:31 pm

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balla45 wrote:I do not agree with your opinion that basketball is only about speed. I think Richman made tremendous strides as an offensive player and as a post defender this year. Actually has shown flashes of a 15 foot jump shot. Is it a go to move? No. In Class B ND basketball, I think it is a very intelligent play to consistently turn around and dunk, when you are able to do so on a consistent basis. Also has dramatically expanded his face up ability and ability to attack out of that.



Richman scored 6 points against F/S-H/P this week. And just in case anyone doesn't know what that acronym stands for, it's Finley-Sharon-Hope-Page, and they are 4-12 this year. Checking the box score too, they were tied at halftime, so it's not like he sat the entire 4th quarter. Dunking may be a nice attribute for a player in HS, but clearly his offensive game hasn't developed enough if he's scoring single digits against a team of that caliber. Could be a rude awakening for him next year (if he chooses to play college ball) when everyone his size can not only dunk but also compliment that atheletic ability with a variety of post moves.

FSHP has a physical post, probably got Richman frustrated. That is his biggest weakness. He hasn't grown outta that like most others do by the time they're seniors.
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Re: Best player in region 1?

Postby EHS1998 » Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:53 pm

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OKCfan wrote:
balla45 wrote:I do not agree with your opinion that basketball is only about speed. I think Richman made tremendous strides as an offensive player and as a post defender this year. Actually has shown flashes of a 15 foot jump shot. Is it a go to move? No. In Class B ND basketball, I think it is a very intelligent play to consistently turn around and dunk, when you are able to do so on a consistent basis. Also has dramatically expanded his face up ability and ability to attack out of that.



Richman scored 6 points against F/S-H/P this week. And just in case anyone doesn't know what that acronym stands for, it's Finley-Sharon-Hope-Page, and they are 4-12 this year. Checking the box score too, they were tied at halftime, so it's not like he sat the entire 4th quarter. Dunking may be a nice attribute for a player in HS, but clearly his offensive game hasn't developed enough if he's scoring single digits against a team of that caliber. Could be a rude awakening for him next year (if he chooses to play college ball) when everyone his size can not only dunk but also compliment that atheletic ability with a variety of post moves.

FSHP has a physical post, probably got Richman frustrated. That is his biggest weakness. He hasn't grown outta that like most others do by the time they're seniors.


Regardless of what is happening this year, Richman must have some high end potential because I am not sure of another Class B senior that is signed to play D1.
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Re: Best player in region 1?

Postby winner-within » Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:54 pm

EHS1998 wrote:
ND-is-#1 wrote:
OKCfan wrote:
balla45 wrote:I do not agree with your opinion that basketball is only about speed. I think Richman made tremendous strides as an offensive player and as a post defender this year. Actually has shown flashes of a 15 foot jump shot. Is it a go to move? No. In Class B ND basketball, I think it is a very intelligent play to consistently turn around and dunk, when you are able to do so on a consistent basis. Also has dramatically expanded his face up ability and ability to attack out of that.



Richman scored 6 points against F/S-H/P this week. And just in case anyone doesn't know what that acronym stands for, it's Finley-Sharon-Hope-Page, and they are 4-12 this year. Checking the box score too, they were tied at halftime, so it's not like he sat the entire 4th quarter. Dunking may be a nice attribute for a player in HS, but clearly his offensive game hasn't developed enough if he's scoring single digits against a team of that caliber. Could be a rude awakening for him next year (if he chooses to play college ball) when everyone his size can not only dunk but also compliment that atheletic ability with a variety of post moves.

FSHP has a physical post, probably got Richman frustrated. That is his biggest weakness. He hasn't grown outta that like most others do by the time they're seniors.


Regardless of what is happening this year, Richman must have some high end potential because I am not sure of another Class B senior that is signed to play D1.


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Re: Best player in region 1?

Postby OKCfan » Thu Jan 30, 2014 1:06 pm

winner-within wrote:
EHS1998 wrote:
ND-is-#1 wrote:
OKCfan wrote:
balla45 wrote:I do not agree with your opinion that basketball is only about speed. I think Richman made tremendous strides as an offensive player and as a post defender this year. Actually has shown flashes of a 15 foot jump shot. Is it a go to move? No. In Class B ND basketball, I think it is a very intelligent play to consistently turn around and dunk, when you are able to do so on a consistent basis. Also has dramatically expanded his face up ability and ability to attack out of that.



Richman scored 6 points against F/S-H/P this week. And just in case anyone doesn't know what that acronym stands for, it's Finley-Sharon-Hope-Page, and they are 4-12 this year. Checking the box score too, they were tied at halftime, so it's not like he sat the entire 4th quarter. Dunking may be a nice attribute for a player in HS, but clearly his offensive game hasn't developed enough if he's scoring single digits against a team of that caliber. Could be a rude awakening for him next year (if he chooses to play college ball) when everyone his size can not only dunk but also compliment that atheletic ability with a variety of post moves.

FSHP has a physical post, probably got Richman frustrated. That is his biggest weakness. He hasn't grown outta that like most others do by the time they're seniors.


Regardless of what is happening this year, Richman must have some high end potential because I am not sure of another Class B senior that is signed to play D1.


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Yeah end potential? Yes, because he's 6'7 and can jump outta the gym. But does he have the current skill set to be considered one of the top players in the state? That I do not believe.
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Re: Best player in region 1?

Postby EHS1998 » Thu Jan 30, 2014 1:22 pm

Understood. Thanks.
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Re: Best player in region 1?

Postby ND-is-#1 » Thu Jan 30, 2014 2:00 pm

I'm sure that's why he was signed. He has the potential to be very good. If they can get him to control his emotions and learn a few post moves he could see some playing time later in his college years. I kinda doubt he got money, probably more of a walk on type deal. Just cause it's UND . That's just my guess. I suppose no one really knows
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Re: Best player in region 1?

Postby leroybla » Thu Jan 30, 2014 2:06 pm

Just an observation . . . 6'-7" in ND class basketball many times are only 6'-5" tall. Something to do with the metric system, I think.
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Re: Best player in region 1?

Postby ND-is-#1 » Thu Jan 30, 2014 2:12 pm

leroybla wrote:Just an observation . . . 6'-7" in ND class basketball many times are only 6'-5" tall. Something to do with the metric system, I think.

I think he is a legit 6'7"
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Re: Best player in region 1?

Postby Run4Fun2009 » Thu Jan 30, 2014 4:07 pm

ND-is-#1 wrote:
leroybla wrote:Just an observation . . . 6'-7" in ND class basketball many times are only 6'-5" tall. Something to do with the metric system, I think.

I think he is a legit 6'7"


His height is legitimate...no rounding up for him. 6'7" is accurate
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Re: Best player in region 1?

Postby balla45 » Thu Jan 30, 2014 4:16 pm

Are we really going to judge our entire perception of a player based on his performance in one game? I have said it before and I will say it again...

One strong performance does not make a player a strong player. One weak performance does not make a player a weak player. Look at the overall body of work please.
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Re: Best player in region 1?

Postby EHS1998 » Thu Jan 30, 2014 4:27 pm

balla45 wrote:Are we really going to judge our entire perception of a player based on his performance in one game? I have said it before and I will say it again...

One strong performance does not make a player a strong player. One weak performance does not make a player a weak player. Look at the overall body of work please.


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Re: Best player in region 1?

Postby scoobyx2 » Fri Jan 31, 2014 2:07 pm

EHS1998 wrote:
ND-is-#1 wrote:
OKCfan wrote:
balla45 wrote:I do not agree with your opinion that basketball is only about speed. I think Richman made tremendous strides as an offensive player and as a post defender this year. Actually has shown flashes of a 15 foot jump shot. Is it a go to move? No. In Class B ND basketball, I think it is a very intelligent play to consistently turn around and dunk, when you are able to do so on a consistent basis. Also has dramatically expanded his face up ability and ability to attack out of that.



Richman scored 6 points against F/S-H/P this week. And just in case anyone doesn't know what that acronym stands for, it's Finley-Sharon-Hope-Page, and they are 4-12 this year. Checking the box score too, they were tied at halftime, so it's not like he sat the entire 4th quarter. Dunking may be a nice attribute for a player in HS, but clearly his offensive game hasn't developed enough if he's scoring single digits against a team of that caliber. Could be a rude awakening for him next year (if he chooses to play college ball) when everyone his size can not only dunk but also compliment that atheletic ability with a variety of post moves.

FSHP has a physical post, probably got Richman frustrated. That is his biggest weakness. He hasn't grown outta that like most others do by the time they're seniors.


Regardless of what is happening this year, Richman must have some high end potential because I am not sure of another Class B senior that is signed to play D1.

Has he officially signed a letter of intent to play at a D1 school?
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Re: Best player in region 1?

Postby EHS1998 » Fri Jan 31, 2014 2:18 pm

I dont think signing day has happenned yet for BB but I understand that he has been offerred preferred walk on status, which isnt a gimme considering roster limitations.
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Re: Best player in region 1?

Postby balla45 » Fri Jan 31, 2014 3:04 pm

He committed on January 14, 2014. As that is after the early signing period, he has not signed.
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Re: Best player in region 1?

Postby WyattMund » Mon Feb 03, 2014 4:59 pm

beachy wrote:I think that they have just as good crew this year.. Landon mund didnt do much for them last year..


On what information do you base that statement on?
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Re: Best player in region 1?

Postby baloncesto » Mon Feb 03, 2014 11:04 pm

WyattMund wrote:
beachy wrote:I think that they have just as good crew this year.. Landon mund didnt do much for them last year..


On what information do you base that statement on?

I watched Milnor throughout the state tournament and i felt landon was an underrated part of the team. Now, him being your brother (if you are indeed Wyatt) i understand where you are coming from. Landon was probably the best defender and the leader of the team from what i saw. He shut down Lambert at state throughout most of the game. Wyatt, i have to agree with you on this.
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Re: Best player in region 1?

Postby balla45 » Fri Feb 07, 2014 1:55 am

Not that this completely pertains to the topic, but as we seem to have box score readers in this particular topic, please realize that Richman for Maple Valley will be Corby Richman for the remainder of the season, as James Richman tore his ACL earlier this week.
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Re: Best player in region 1?

Postby ND-is-#1 » Fri Feb 07, 2014 2:05 am

balla45 wrote:Not that this completely pertains to the topic, but as we seem to have box score readers in this particular topic, please realize that Richman for Maple Valley will be Corby Richman for the remainder of the season, as James Richman tore his ACL earlier this week.

Heard about that.. That's a tough way to end a season for anyone. He means so much to his team. Really feel bad for the guy. Hope he has a fast recovery!
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Re: Best player in region 1?

Postby EHS1998 » Fri Feb 07, 2014 8:17 am

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Re: Best player in region 1?

Postby ND-is-#1 » Tue Feb 11, 2014 9:44 pm

Now that the season is over here are my picks.
1. Bussman
2. Lindgren
3. Mund
4. Kretchman
5. Burns
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Re: Best player in region 1?

Postby baloncesto » Wed Feb 12, 2014 10:39 pm

ND-is-#1 wrote:Now that the season is over here are my picks.
1. Bussman
2. Lindgren
3. Mund
4. Kretchman
5. Burns


Season Ending Key Stats (players are in your order)
1. Bussman 27.5ppg 8.5rpg 61% 2FG 44%3FG
2. Lindgren 20.9ppg 5.1rpg 55%2FG 33%3FG
3. Mund 16.9ppg 9.4rpg 55%2FG 57%3FG(4 out of 7)
4. Kretchman 18.8ppg 2.2rpg 61% 2FG 33%3FG
5. Burns 30.5ppg 6.1rpg 48%2FG 34%3FG

Who's stats are most impressive across the board taking everything into account?
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Re: Best player in region 1?

Postby Run4Fun2009 » Wed Feb 12, 2014 10:50 pm

baloncesto wrote:
ND-is-#1 wrote:Now that the season is over here are my picks.
1. Bussman
2. Lindgren
3. Mund
4. Kretchman
5. Burns


Season Ending Key Stats (players are in your order)
1. Bussman 27.5ppg 8.5rpg 61% 2FG 44%3FG
2. Lindgren 20.9ppg 5.1rpg 55%2FG 33%3FG
3. Mund 16.9ppg 9.4rpg 55%2FG 57%3FG(4 out of 7)
4. Kretchman 18.8ppg 2.2rpg 61% 2FG 33%3FG
5. Burns 30.5ppg 6.1rpg 48%2FG 34%3FG

Who's stats are most impressive across the board taking everything into account?


Well assists aren't included but that would push Mund up in my opinion. BUT Bussman is still the clear #1. Those are 5 solid players and I know there are a few more who could be put into the list for consideration.
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Re: Best player in region 1?

Postby ND-is-#1 » Wed Feb 12, 2014 11:41 pm

baloncesto wrote:
ND-is-#1 wrote:Now that the season is over here are my picks.
1. Bussman
2. Lindgren
3. Mund
4. Kretchman
5. Burns


Season Ending Key Stats (players are in your order)
1. Bussman 27.5ppg 8.5rpg 61% 2FG 44%3FG
2. Lindgren 20.9ppg 5.1rpg 55%2FG 33%3FG
3. Mund 16.9ppg 9.4rpg 55%2FG 57%3FG(4 out of 7)
4. Kretchman 18.8ppg 2.2rpg 61% 2FG 33%3FG
5. Burns 30.5ppg 6.1rpg 48%2FG 34%3FG

Who's stats are most impressive across the board taking everything into account?

Bussman clearly has the best numbers!
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Re: Best player in region 1?

Postby d_fense » Fri Feb 14, 2014 5:51 pm

balla45 wrote:Not that this completely pertains to the topic, but as we seem to have box score readers in this particular topic, please realize that Richman for Maple Valley will be Corby Richman for the remainder of the season, as James Richman tore his ACL earlier this week.

Big brother James IS playing in the first round of districts today. It is still in the first quarter, but he is playing well so far. Hope he keeps it up and is full go the rest of their season.
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