Region 7 Tourney

[Run4Fun2009]

Discussion Starts Now...Predictions Anyone

G1: D14 #1 Beulah (#1; 21-0) vs. D13 #4 Hettinger-Scranton (8-13)
G2: D13 #2 Mott-Regent (14-7) vs. D14 #3 Hazen (14-8)
G3: D13 #1 Heart River (17-4) vs. D14 #4 Richardton-Taylor (12-10)
G4: D14 #2 Dickinson Trinity (#3; 19-2) vs. D13 #3 New England (11-11)

G5: Winner G1 vs. Winner G2
G6: Winner G3 vs. Winner G4

3rd Place: Loser G5 vs. Loser G6
Championship: Winner G5 vs. Winner G6

[gominers]

G1: D14 #1 Beulah (#1; 21-0) vs. D13 #4 Hettinger-Scranton (8-13)
G2: D13 #2 Mott-Regent (14-7) vs. D14 #3 Hazen (14-8)
G3: D13 #1 Heart River (17-4) vs. D14 #4 Richardton-Taylor (12-10)
G4: D14 #2 Dickinson Trinity (#3; 19-2) vs. D13 #3 New England (11-11)

G5: Beulah vs. Hazen
G6: Heart River vs. Dickinson Trinity

3rd Place:Hazen vs. Heart River
Championship: Beulah vs. Dickinson Trinity

I think Hazen is the wild card. They're playing really tough right now. If the championship ends this way, I think it will be a classic.

[Run4Fun2009]

G1: D14 #1 Beulah (#1; 21-0) vs. D13 #4 Hettinger-Scranton (8-13)
G2: D13 #2 Mott-Regent (14-7) vs. D14 #3 Hazen (14-8)
G3: D13 #1 Heart River (17-4) vs. D14 #4 Richardton-Taylor (12-10)
G4: D14 #2 Dickinson Trinity (#3; 19-2) vs. D13 #3 New England (11-11)

G5: D14 #1 Beulah vs. D14 #3 Hazen
G6: D13 #1 Heart River vs. D14 #2 Dickinson Trinity

3rd Place: D14 #3 Hazen vs. D13 #1 Heart River
Championship: D14 #1 Beulah vs. D14 #2 Dickinson Trinity Final: 58-57

Should be one close matchup in the quarterfinals...then two great matchups in the Semifinals (as long as Hazen gets by M-R).

[DBA]

G1: D14 #1 Beulah (#1; 21-0) vs. D13 #4 Hettinger-Scranton (8-13)
G2: D13 #2 Mott-Regent (14-7) vs. D14 #3 Hazen (14-8)
G3: D13 #1 Heart River (17-4) vs. D14 #4 Richardton-Taylor (12-10)
G4: D14 #2 Dickinson Trinity (#3; 19-2) vs. D13 #3 New England (11-11)

G5: D14 #1 Beulah vs. D13 #2 Mott-Regent
G6: D13 #1 Heart River vs. D14 #2 Dickinson Trinity

3rd Place: D13 #2 Mott-Regent vs. D14 #2 Dickinson Trinity
Championship: D14 #1 Beulah vs. D13 #1 Heart River Final: 58-56

I'm throwing in a couple upsets. I'm betting District 13 is going to win more than one game in this tournament.

For Mott to beat the Bison, Hazen will need to come out flat which they are capable of doing (8 losses) and not be the Hazen that has gone toe to toe with Trinity and Beulah. Hoping for a big Zentner show. Even if Hazen wins, Zentner/Carr will be a fun matchup.

Heart River plays Trinity 3 times a year and has had some close battles with Trinity in the last two years (except one 20pt blow out). I think HR is due to upset.

HR over Beulah? Why not? I'm already outside of most people's expectations.

[bison football73]

You must be from District 13. It is not most people's expectations, it is everyone's expectations

[DBA]

well, close. My wife is from D13.

[Mike Ditka]

Mott is scary for Hazen....they beat them a couple weeks ago. Heart River will lose to Trinity by 20-30 even though I will be rooting for the old Cougars! Hazen will play Beulah tough but lose by 7-10...game will be fun to watch, probably played in the 70-80s. Hettinger-Scranton and New England are both a year or two away.

Lets all be realistic....it's Beulah and Trinity. Everyone else fights for bronze.

[bison football73]

Definitely agree with you there Ditka.

[the701]

G1: D14 #1 Beulah (#1; 21-0) vs. D13 #4 Hettinger-Scranton (8-13)
G2: D13 #2 Mott-Regent (14-7) vs. D14 #3 Hazen (14-8)
G3: D13 #1 Heart River (17-4) vs. D14 #4 Richardton-Taylor (12-10)
G4: D14 #2 Dickinson Trinity (#3; 19-2) vs. D13 #3 New England (11-11)

G5: Beulah vs. Hazen
G6: HR vs. Trinity

3rd Place: Hazen vs. HR
Championship: Beulah vs. Trinity

I think the outcome of Game 2 is going to depend on what kind of night Carr has, but i'm taking the Bison over M-R. I also think this will be the only interesting game of night one.

The rest of the tournament is going to be great, can't wait to see what happens!

[Jacked]

Beulah, Hazen, Heart River, Dickinson Trinity

Beulah, Dickinson Trinity

Dickinson Trinity

Beulah is clearly the best team in the state but I have a feeling that they will get beat in the championship game

[DBA]

I'm a bit surprised that there are more people on this site that choose Trinity than people that choose Beulah. I'm sincerely curious what the Trinity voters are seeing. Beulah has beaten North Star in North Star, Trinity in Trinity, and Trinity at home. Not to mention I don't think Beulah has lost to Trinity in a tournament for three or four years.

Do people give Trinity the edge because of their size and the fact that Trinity does seem to be very consistent? Is Beulah too reliant on threes against a bigger team like Trinity? Are turnovers/easy baskets less reliable than offensive rebounds? Worked for Beulah last year.

[bison football73]

Personally I picked DT because like you said they haven't beaten Beulah in a tournament in awhile and they're due. Also in the district championship game I feel like Trinity shot poorly from the line. If they shoot just a little better from the line they win the game. First meeting trinity lost by 5 in a very close game. These two teams could be the best in the state. And if they meet in regionals it will be an epic battle between two class B powerhouses.

[Mike Ditka]

I'm a bit surprised that there are more people on this site that choose Trinity than people that choose Beulah. I'm sincerely curious what the Trinity voters are seeing. Beulah has beaten North Star in North Star, Trinity in Trinity, and Trinity at home. Not to mention I don't think Beulah has lost to Trinity in a tournament for three or four years.

Do people give Trinity the edge because of their size and the fact that Trinity does seem to be very consistent? Is Beulah too reliant on threes against a bigger team like Trinity? Are turnovers/easy baskets less reliable than offensive rebounds? Worked for Beulah last year.

My opinion...It is sooooo hard to beat a great team three times. Plus, ever been at Trinity for a regional? Home court advantage is an understatement. I also think the best coach in the state is on Trinity's bench, my opinion obviously.

[NorthDakota11]

It's tough to go against Beulah with what they've done this season but like Ditka said...

"I also think the best coach in the state is on Trinity's bench"

I'm not sure on the history but how many times has Grinsteinner been beat by the same team three times in the same season? It can't be many times during his 383 wins (thanks @monkebusiness). That's a stat I'd love to see.

I also think Trinity is due, I was at the first game and they were down three for much of the last 4-5 possessions of the game and all they did was take threes. I would have liked to have seen them try to get a quick two and make Beulah win it at the line (extend the game). Either game could have went either way.

This is just my opinion but the State Championship game will be played in Dickinson later this week.

[gominers]

I think Ditka hit the two big reasons. It's really tough to beat a very good team three times in one season. However, for some reason over the past couple of years, Beulah's played Trinity tougher in Dickinson than Beulah. Not sure why. Personally, I don't think the coaching differential is very big. I'm sure both will have some new wrinkles the other hasn't seen. It could come down to who hits more free throws between Hettich and I. Binstock (fans of both teams cringe).

[3sportfan]

I just don't see this big coaching advantage some have said Trinity has, both have to win a couple big games to get to that point.

[NorthDakota11]

I just don't see this big coaching advantage some have said Trinity has, both have to win a couple big games to get to that point.

Does Brandt have almost 400 wins?

[gominers]

So because he's young, he's not a great coach. He has won one state championship and lost another in triple overtime (with another school). I also believe he has a winning record versus Grinsteinner. Grinsteinner is a great coach (possibly the best in the state), but you're acting like Brandt can't coach.

[Mike Ditka]

I didn't say Brandt isn't a great coach....I said Trinity's is the best. Go back the last 15 years and tell me I'm wrong. Dominating Region 7 for so long speaks for it self. If Coach Brandt does it for as long as Coach Grinnsteiner with his style (which would be very hard) then I would put him at that level.

It is really a toss up....but if you tell me the Titans and Miners play a 5 game series, first to three, and a team as good as Trinity doesn't win one...I'm going to question it.

That said, either team would be a great representative of region 7.

[DBA]

A majority of Trinity's dominance of Region 7 came when Beulah was class A. Take a look at Trinity's region championship banner in their gym. Beulah was class A from approximately 1999 to 2006. How many region titles does Trinity have before and after those years compared to the number of titles during Beulah's 8 year absence? I know Beulah won their region three years in a row in the mid-late 90's and now twice in the last three years. They only made state once as an A school but I will point to the level of competition in Class A vs B

[Mike Ditka]

Did Coach Brandt win those region Titles in the 90's? Just wondering....

[DBA]

Na, I'm not going to weigh in on Brandt vs Grinsteiner. Just saying dominating region 7 during the 2000's doesn't impress me. Homecourt advantage at every regional tournament, Hazen is a football town first, Beulah was out of the picture, Heart River didn't start their coop til recently. Mott-Regent was their only real competition during that time. And props to the Wildfire, I'm impressed with their consistent ability to put up competitive teams.

[DBA]

which brings me to the point that we should enjoy what's going on in region 7 right now. Hazen, Trinity, Beulah, Mott-Regent, Heart River... a lot of really good teams even if Trinity and Beulah are supposedly a cut above the rest. Last year was the same story plus New England was good last year. A lot of impressive seniors graduating out of this region this year.

[Mike Ditka]

Yeah...not impressive. The undefeated seasons and state titles...not impressive! Also, during that time Richardton-Taylor had good teams, Mott-Regent, New England, Beach, and Bowman were all strong, as were South Heart and Belfield at times. Still not impressive? Then I'm not impressed with your opinion....as far as Hazen goes....I dont buy into "football school"...solid excuse for having a high enrollment and not being able to get by a great Trinity program.

[Mike Ditka]

Region 7 has been a blast lately....agreed.