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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:40 am
by fruit snack
Aaronih wrote:THOUGHT THIS WAS A (FW) PAGE NOT A (DT) 1?? good year indians and we'll be back again next year and prolly see DT again in state..(TI) shoulkd have got class b player of the year.. i would like to see any of these players and put them on his team then see wat would have happened?? i dunno thas my 2-cents..fire away fellas..

IH is a better passer than the packs.....but all around the packs are better players

PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:57 am
by baseball
fruit snack wrote:
Aaronih wrote:THOUGHT THIS WAS A (FW) PAGE NOT A (DT) 1?? good year indians and we'll be back again next year and prolly see DT again in state..(TI) shoulkd have got class b player of the year.. i would like to see any of these players and put them on his team then see wat would have happened?? i dunno thas my 2-cents..fire away fellas..

IH is a better passer than the packs.....but all around the packs are better players

i have to admit, when i heard co-SOY i thought for sure it was Ironheart and Bakkum.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 1:26 pm
by cdub1
nativegolfer wrote:One mystery to me was why FW didn't use their fullcourt press.  That's one of things that got them to Bismarck in the first place.  Other than that DT played good defense and the FW boys didn't hit the shots they usually hit.  Just picked a bad game to have an off shooting night.  By the way I have to share this tidbit.  I have about 12-15 people approach me at different times after the game and they all had the same three things to say:  they where rooting for FW, they hate DT and DT should be in class A.   After the final, alot of people where saying that they where hoping for a FW-Parshall matchup.  That would have been a crazy game!  Final score would have at least been in the 70's or 80's. 

no they shouldnt they would maybe win 2 games a year that is rediculous

PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 1:54 pm
by feeshattack
the only reason that people think DT should be class A is because they are jealous.... and now this is going to turn into a DT recruiting topic just cuz you brought that up

i personally think that TI is better than the packineau brothers.... but nathaniel definetly had the best tourny out of all of them

PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 1:55 pm
by cdub1
feeshattack wrote:the only reason that people think DT should be class A is because they are jealous.... and now this is going to turn into a DT recruiting topic just cuz you brought that up

i personally think that TI is better than the packineau brothers.... but nathaniel definetly had the best tourny out of all of them

its just stupidity if dickinson trinity played st marys leet would have lit them up for 20 plus and when u add the shot clock it makes it unfair for trinity

PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 2:13 pm
by thesports_guy32
nativegolfer wrote:One mystery to me was why FW didn't use their fullcourt press.  That's one of things that got them to Bismarck in the first place.  Other than that DT played good defense and the FW boys didn't hit the shots they usually hit.  Just picked a bad game to have an off shooting night.  By the way I have to share this tidbit.  I have about 12-15 people approach me at different times after the game and they all had the same three things to say:  they where rooting for FW, they hate DT and DT should be in class A.   After the final, alot of people where saying that they where hoping for a FW-Parshall matchup.  That would have been a crazy game!  Final score would have at least been in the 70's or 80's. 

i never heard a single person say they wanted 4winds to win or that they wanted people to see FW and Parshall play. DT was a better team THAT GAME hands down. i don't care if FW had a bad shooting night. DT showed up to play and FW didn't. that's it. case closed.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 2:34 pm
by The Schwab
thesports_guy32 wrote:
nativegolfer wrote:One mystery to me was why FW didn't use their fullcourt press.  That's one of things that got them to Bismarck in the first place.  Other than that DT played good defense and the FW boys didn't hit the shots they usually hit.  Just picked a bad game to have an off shooting night.  By the way I have to share this tidbit.  I have about 12-15 people approach me at different times after the game and they all had the same three things to say:  they where rooting for FW, they hate DT and DT should be in class A.   After the final, alot of people where saying that they where hoping for a FW-Parshall matchup.  That would have been a crazy game!  Final score would have at least been in the 70's or 80's. 

i never heard a single person say they wanted 4winds to win or that they wanted people to see FW and Parshall play
. DT was a better team THAT GAME hands down. i don't care if FW had a bad shooting night. DT showed up to play and FW didn't. that's it. case closed.
Ok I'll say it then....i would have loved to see Parshall play FW for the State Title game.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 3:11 pm
by BBall dominator
[user=1304]The Schwab[/user] wrote:
thesports_guy32 wrote:
nativegolfer wrote:One mystery to me was why FW didn't use their fullcourt press.  That's one of things that got them to Bismarck in the first place.  Other than that DT played good defense and the FW boys didn't hit the shots they usually hit.  Just picked a bad game to have an off shooting night.  By the way I have to share this tidbit.  I have about 12-15 people approach me at different times after the game and they all had the same three things to say:  they where rooting for FW, they hate DT and DT should be in class A.   After the final, alot of people where saying that they where hoping for a FW-Parshall matchup.  That would have been a crazy game!  Final score would have at least been in the 70's or 80's. 

i never heard a single person say they wanted 4winds to win or that they wanted people to see FW and Parshall play
. DT was a better team THAT GAME hands down. i don't care if FW had a bad shooting night. DT showed up to play and FW didn't. that's it. case closed.
Ok I'll say it then....i would have loved to see Parshall play FW for the State Title game.

It would've been a nice game no doubt but I defintely feel that FW got taken out of their game w/ a hand in their face and being pushed to take shots they didn't like but the packineau twins are IMO better than TIH because they did better against a good defense

PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 5:00 pm
by pacod
nativegolfer wrote:One mystery to me was why FW didn't use their fullcourt press.  That's one of things that got them to Bismarck in the first place.  Other than that DT played good defense and the FW boys didn't hit the shots they usually hit.  Just picked a bad game to have an off shooting night.  By the way I have to share this tidbit.  I have about 12-15 people approach me at different times after the game and they all had the same three things to say:  they where rooting for FW, they hate DT and DT should be in class A.   After the final, alot of people where saying that they where hoping for a FW-Parshall matchup.  That would have been a crazy game!  Final score would have at least been in the 70's or 80's. 

I've said it before and i'll say it again......FW got out coached big time. If you look at the first quarter stats when FW was in a 2-3 zone, they got out scored 21-7 and out rebounded 8-3. Why would rick have them start in a zone when they never played a zone all year. The boys did shoot bad, but you have to give props to DT with their shooting. I think if rick would teach the boys how to stay in front of their man, instead of reaching or going for the steal, they would've done a lot better in their game against DT. Congradulations to the INDIANS though. Congrats to Parshall for going the distance also.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 6:12 pm
by fruit snack
pacod wrote:
nativegolfer wrote:One mystery to me was why FW didn't use their fullcourt press.  That's one of things that got them to Bismarck in the first place.  Other than that DT played good defense and the FW boys didn't hit the shots they usually hit.  Just picked a bad game to have an off shooting night.  By the way I have to share this tidbit.  I have about 12-15 people approach me at different times after the game and they all had the same three things to say:  they where rooting for FW, they hate DT and DT should be in class A.   After the final, alot of people where saying that they where hoping for a FW-Parshall matchup.  That would have been a crazy game!  Final score would have at least been in the 70's or 80's. 

I've said it before and i'll say it again......FW got out coached big time. If you look at the first quarter stats when FW was in a 2-3 zone, they got out scored 21-7 and out rebounded 8-3. Why would rick have them start in a zone when they never played a zone all year. The boys did shoot bad, but you have to give props to DT with their shooting. I think if rick would teach the boys how to stay in front of their man, instead of reaching or going for the steal, they would've done a lot better in their game against DT. Congradulations to the INDIANS though. Congrats to Parshall for going the distance also.

holy some1 actually admittin ricky messed up...wow

PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 6:26 pm
by grizz
No kidding. I didnt expect to hear that from pacod especially

PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 7:35 am
by fruit snack
u guys always come up with excuses, refs, bad coaching, etc.....instead of just admitting that u got outplayed by a better DT team.....if they had a rematch i think FW could beat them, but in state DT just flatout out played FW

PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 9:02 am
by ND_Fan
fruit snack wrote:u guys always come up with excuses, refs, bad coaching, etc.....instead of just admitting that u got outplayed by a better DT team.....if they had a rematch i think FW could beat them, but in state DT just flatout out played FW

Agreed

PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 9:47 am
by pacod
fruit snack wrote:u guys always come up with excuses, refs, bad coaching, etc.....instead of just admitting that u got outplayed by a better DT team.....if they had a rematch i think FW could beat them, but in state DT just flatout out played FW

HAHA what are you talking about. Your posts make no sense, but if you think i'm making excuses you better think again.  No ones making excuses, just stating the obvious.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 10:48 am
by fruit snack
pacod wrote:
fruit snack wrote:u guys always come up with excuses, refs, bad coaching, etc.....instead of just admitting that u got outplayed by a better DT team.....if they had a rematch i think FW could beat them, but in state DT just flatout out played FW

HAHA what are you talking about. Your posts make no sense, but if you think i'm making excuses you better think again.  No ones making excuses, just stating the obvious.

u talked ricky smith up like he was a god....like he got robbed everytime he didnt get a coach award.......and now ur starting to bash him and say he coached a bad game in state.....thats ur excuse

PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 10:53 am
by WildWarrior
fruit snack wrote:
pacod wrote:
fruit snack wrote:u guys always come up with excuses, refs, bad coaching, etc.....instead of just admitting that u got outplayed by a better DT team.....if they had a rematch i think FW could beat them, but in state DT just flatout out played FW

HAHA what are you talking about. Your posts make no sense, but if you think i'm making excuses you better think again.  No ones making excuses, just stating the obvious.

u talked ricky smith up like he was a god....like he got robbed everytime he didnt get a coach award.......and now ur starting to bash him and say he coached a bad game in state.....thats ur excuse

pacod is not the one bragging up coach smith, in fact he stated his predecessor was a great coach in the best coaches topic. 

PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 11:24 am
by tadam6
:cool:i thought 4 winds was supposed to win state...wasn't everybody sayin that?...nobody can run w/ the indians....

PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 11:42 am
by The Schwab
tadam6 wrote::cool:i thought 4 winds was supposed to win state...wasn't everybody sayin that?...nobody can run w/ the indians....
well....four winds had a pretty good showing at the state tournament.....and as for the "nobody can run w/ the indians" comment.......umm.....didnt parshall win state?

PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 12:07 pm
by pacod
The Schwab wrote:
tadam6 wrote::cool:i thought 4 winds was supposed to win state...wasn't everybody sayin that?...nobody can run w/ the indians....
well....four winds had a pretty good showing at the state tournament.....and as for the "nobody can run w/ the indians" comment.......umm.....didnt parshall win state?


Yep.....FW would've gave them a better run for their money than trinity did, but thats class B basketball for you, anything can happen. FW picked a bad time to have a bad game and trinity was fortunate that Marsh had the game of his life.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 12:19 pm
by pacod
fruit snack wrote:
pacod wrote:
fruit snack wrote:u guys always come up with excuses, refs, bad coaching, etc.....instead of just admitting that u got outplayed by a better DT team.....if they had a rematch i think FW could beat them, but in state DT just flatout out played FW

HAHA what are you talking about. Your posts make no sense, but if you think i'm making excuses you better think again.  No ones making excuses, just stating the obvious.

u talked ricky smith up like he was a god....like he got robbed everytime he didnt get a coach award.......and now ur starting to bash him and say he coached a bad game in state.....thats ur excuse
Better get your facts straight buddy. I never did brag up rick. I have a lot of respect for him as a man, but I disagree with his coaching tactics. I believe he's a good coach but not near the level that Coach Carr, Grinsteinner, or Nelson are at.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 1:13 pm
by BBall dominator
[user=1304]The Schwab[/user] wrote:
tadam6 wrote::cool:i thought 4 winds was supposed to win state...wasn't everybody sayin that?...nobody can run w/ the indians....
well....four winds had a pretty good showing at the state tournament.....and as for the "nobody can run w/ the indians" comment.......umm.....didnt parshall win state?


I thought we were talking about a mascot??

PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 1:26 pm
by ND_Fan
pacod wrote:
The Schwab wrote:
tadam6 wrote::cool:i thought 4 winds was supposed to win state...wasn't everybody sayin that?...nobody can run w/ the indians....
well....four winds had a pretty good showing at the state tournament.....and as for the "nobody can run w/ the indians" comment.......umm.....didnt parshall win state?


Yep.....FW would've gave them a better run for their money than trinity did, but thats class B basketball for you, anything can happen. FW picked a bad time to have a bad game and trinity was fortunate that Marsh had the game of his life.

U always say you admit that trinity's better but you never come out and say it. Can't someone just admit that trinity is the better TEAM with out adding a comment like "trinity was fortunate that Marsh had the game of his life"????? In my own personal opinion, four winds was just outplayed, out experienced, out coached, and out hustled in every aspect of that first round game. And when it comes down to it, Trinity just wanted it worse than Four Winds did.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 1:29 pm
by fruit snack
dominationSCS wrote:[user=1304]The Schwab[/user] wrote:
tadam6 wrote::cool:i thought 4 winds was supposed to win state...wasn't everybody sayin that?...nobody can run w/ the indians....
well....four winds had a pretty good showing at the state tournament.....and as for the "nobody can run w/ the indians" comment.......umm.....didnt parshall win state?


I thought we were talking about a mascot??


FW and parshalls mascots were one of the best parts of watching the state tournament

 

PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 1:38 pm
by BBall dominator
[user=2002]fruit snack[/user] wrote:
dominationSCS wrote:[user=1304]The Schwab[/user] wrote:
tadam6 wrote::cool:i thought 4 winds was supposed to win state...wasn't everybody sayin that?...nobody can run w/ the indians....
well....four winds had a pretty good showing at the state tournament.....and as for the "nobody can run w/ the indians" comment.......umm.....didnt parshall win state?


I thought we were talking about a mascot??


FW and parshalls mascots were one of the best parts of watching the state tournament

 

ha yea they were but don't natives find it a bit contradrictory that they can have those mascots and no one else plus I though the headdress was sacred doesn't seem that BB is a sacred event maybe on the rez it is....anyways watching FW and the DT, DT is the better team only because they play defense FW was more talented but DT has the better coach

PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 2:17 pm
by wildboy
dominationSCS wrote:[user=2002]fruit snack[/user] wrote:
dominationSCS wrote:[user=1304]The Schwab[/user] wrote:
tadam6 wrote::cool:i thought 4 winds was supposed to win state...wasn't everybody sayin that?...nobody can run w/ the indians....
well....four winds had a pretty good showing at the state tournament.....and as for the "nobody can run w/ the indians" comment.......umm.....didnt parshall win state?


I thought we were talking about a mascot??


FW and parshalls mascots were one of the best parts of watching the state tournament

?

ha yea they were but don't natives find it a bit contradrictory that they can have those mascots and no one else plus I though the headdress was sacred doesn't seem that BB is a sacred event maybe on the rez it is....anyways watching FW and the DT, DT is the better team only because they play defense FW was more talented but DT has the better coach

I didn't see that must D from Trinity, it was that FW boyz had a bad game shoot weren't going in and Trinity little bunny shoot were going in.