ndlionsfan wrote:What do you classify as big in the data above?
classB4ever wrote:ndlionsfan wrote:What do you classify as big in the data above?
174+
ndlionsfan wrote:classB4ever wrote:ndlionsfan wrote:What do you classify as big in the data above?
174+
How does the data change if you drop it down to 150 or 125?
In counting out the teams you listed above, if you went with the 20/40/rest split for divisions the enrollment between middle and small class would break at around 130. If we ever do get to 3 classes, I'm sure they are going to want more than 15-20 in that middle class for it to pass.
classB4ever wrote:Here's how a 22,32,75 using this year's enrollment would look. Someone with better geographical sense can probably do a better job of placing them. Just for discussion.
AA East Region
West Fargo High School 1458
West Fargo Sheyenne High School 1285
Fargo Davies High School 1261
Grand Forks Red River 1071
Fargo South High School 1034
Grand Forks Central 1020
Fargo North High School 898
Devils Lake Firebirds 476
Valley City High School 339
Wahpeton High School 333
Shanley High School 0
AA West Region
Bismarck Century High School 1252
Bismarck Legacy High School 1189
Williston High School 1166
Bismarck High School 1145
Mandan High School 1033
Dickinson 945
Minot High School 900
Jamestown High School 665
Turtle Mountain Comm HS 529
Bismarck St. Mary's 0
Watford City 387
Region 1A
Central Cass High School 227
Kindred High School 200
Lisbon High School 178
Northern Cass High School 162
Milnor/North Sargent 140
Oakes High School 138
Edgeley/Kulm/Montpelier 133
Wyndmere/Lidgerwood 131
Region 2A
Grafton Spoilers 268
Four Winds/Minnewaukan 231
Hillsboro/Central Valley 213
Langdon Area/Edmore/Munich 176
May-Port CG HS 153
Carrington High School 148
Park River/Fordville-Lankin 143
Thompson High School 132
Region 3A
Bottineau High School 195
Stanley High School 192
Dunseith High School 190
Harvey/Wells County 181
Des Lacs-Burlington HS 175
Rugby High School 166
Velva High School 145
Nedrose High School 136
Region 4A
New Town High School 261
Beulah High School 201
Standing Rock Community High School 200
Hazen High School 174
Heart River 174
Dickinson Trinity High School 150
Killdeer High School 142
Shiloh Christian High School 140
Region 1 B
Oak Grove High School 123
LaMoure-Litchville/Marion 119
Linton/HMB Lions 117
Kidder County High School 115
Napoleon/G-S Imperials 101
Ellendale High School 95
South Border Mustangs 91
Barnes County North High School 84
Medina-Pingree/Buchanan 83
Enderlin High School 82
Richland High School 79
Hankinson High School 76
Maple Valley High School 61
Sargent Central High School 59
Drake/Anamoose Raiders 58
Strasburg/Zeeland 54
Midkota 49
Tri-State: Fairmount-Campbell-Tintah-Rosholt 0
Region 2B
Cavalier High School 129
Hatton/Northwood 125
Midway/Minto 122
St. John High School 121
Drayton/Valley-Edinburg 113
North Border 110
Larimore High School 109
New Rockford-Sheyenne High School 88
TGU Titans 88
Dakota Prairie High School 78
North Star 75
Finley-Sharon/Hope Page 74
Benson County 74
Rolla High School 65
Griggs County Central High School 62
Warwick High School 60
Westhope/Newburg 60
Rolette/Wolford Comets 58
Lakota High School 57
Region 3B
Bowman County High School 130
Garrison High School 119
Beach High School 115
Hettinger/Scranton 114
Wilton-Wing 97
Washburn High School 89
New Salem-Almont High School 88
Richardton-Taylor High School 82
Glen Ullin/Hebron 77
Turtle Lake-Mercer/McClusky 72
New England High School 70
Flasher 66
Mott-Regent HS 59
Grant County HS 58
Solen High School 55
Max High School 53
Underwood High School 51
Center-Stanton HS 48
Region 4B
Tioga High School 120
South Prairie High School 111
Bishop Ryan High School 109
Divide County High School 102
Mohall-Lansford-Sherwood High School 100
Surrey High School 94
Trenton High School 89
Glenburn High School 86
Ray High School 82
Kenmare High School 77
Lewis & Clark High School - Berthold 67
Parshall High School 64
Bowbells/Burke Central 62
Our Redeemer's HS 59
Mandaree High School 56
Alexander High School 53
White Shield High School 50
Powers Lake High School 49
Lewis & Clark, North Shore 36
Williston Trinity Christian High School 32
classB4ever wrote:Here's how a 22,32,75 using this year's enrollment would look. Someone with better geographical sense can probably do a better job of placing them. Just for discussion.
AA East Region
West Fargo High School 1458
West Fargo Sheyenne High School 1285
Fargo Davies High School 1261
Grand Forks Red River 1071
Fargo South High School 1034
Grand Forks Central 1020
Fargo North High School 898
Devils Lake Firebirds 476
Valley City High School 339
Wahpeton High School 333
Shanley High School 0
AA West Region
Bismarck Century High School 1252
Bismarck Legacy High School 1189
Williston High School 1166
Bismarck High School 1145
Mandan High School 1033
Dickinson 945
Minot High School 900
Jamestown High School 665
Turtle Mountain Comm HS 529
Bismarck St. Mary's 0
Watford City 387
Region 1A
Central Cass High School 227
Kindred High School 200
Lisbon High School 178
Northern Cass High School 162
Milnor/North Sargent 140
Oakes High School 138
Edgeley/Kulm/Montpelier 133
Wyndmere/Lidgerwood 131
Region 2A
Grafton Spoilers 268
Four Winds/Minnewaukan 231
Hillsboro/Central Valley 213
Langdon Area/Edmore/Munich 176
May-Port CG HS 153
Carrington High School 148
Park River/Fordville-Lankin 143
Thompson High School 132
Region 3A
Bottineau High School 195
Stanley High School 192
Dunseith High School 190
Harvey/Wells County 181
Des Lacs-Burlington HS 175
Rugby High School 166
Velva High School 145
Nedrose High School 136
Region 4A
New Town High School 261
Beulah High School 201
Standing Rock Community High School 200
Hazen High School 174
Heart River 174
Dickinson Trinity High School 150
Killdeer High School 142
Shiloh Christian High School 140
Region 1 B
Oak Grove High School 123
LaMoure-Litchville/Marion 119
Linton/HMB Lions 117
Kidder County High School 115
Napoleon/G-S Imperials 101
Ellendale High School 95
South Border Mustangs 91
Barnes County North High School 84
Medina-Pingree/Buchanan 83
Enderlin High School 82
Richland High School 79
Hankinson High School 76
Maple Valley High School 61
Sargent Central High School 59
Drake/Anamoose Raiders 58
Strasburg/Zeeland 54
Midkota 49
Tri-State: Fairmount-Campbell-Tintah-Rosholt 0
Region 2B
Cavalier High School 129
Hatton/Northwood 125
Midway/Minto 122
St. John High School 121
Drayton/Valley-Edinburg 113
North Border 110
Larimore High School 109
New Rockford-Sheyenne High School 88
TGU Titans 88
Dakota Prairie High School 78
North Star 75
Finley-Sharon/Hope Page 74
Benson County 74
Rolla High School 65
Griggs County Central High School 62
Warwick High School 60
Westhope/Newburg 60
Rolette/Wolford Comets 58
Lakota High School 57
Region 3B
Bowman County High School 130
Garrison High School 119
Beach High School 115
Hettinger/Scranton 114
Wilton-Wing 97
Washburn High School 89
New Salem-Almont High School 88
Richardton-Taylor High School 82
Glen Ullin/Hebron 77
Turtle Lake-Mercer/McClusky 72
New England High School 70
Flasher 66
Mott-Regent HS 59
Grant County HS 58
Solen High School 55
Max High School 53
Underwood High School 51
Center-Stanton HS 48
Region 4B
Tioga High School 120
South Prairie High School 111
Bishop Ryan High School 109
Divide County High School 102
Mohall-Lansford-Sherwood High School 100
Surrey High School 94
Trenton High School 89
Glenburn High School 86
Ray High School 82
Kenmare High School 77
Lewis & Clark High School - Berthold 67
Parshall High School 64
Bowbells/Burke Central 62
Our Redeemer's HS 59
Mandaree High School 56
Alexander High School 53
White Shield High School 50
Powers Lake High School 49
Lewis & Clark, North Shore 36
Williston Trinity Christian High School 32
gvmearees wrote:Not that it matters for this discussion but Minot has over 1900 student when you count Central Campus(grades 9-10) and Magic City(grades 11-12)
classB4ever wrote:Here's how a 22,32,75 using this year's enrollment would look. Someone with better geographical sense can probably do a better job of placing them. Just for discussion.
AA East Region
West Fargo High School 1458
West Fargo Sheyenne High School 1285
Fargo Davies High School 1261
Grand Forks Red River 1071
Fargo South High School 1034
Grand Forks Central 1020
Fargo North High School 898
Devils Lake Firebirds 476
Valley City High School 339
Wahpeton High School 333
Shanley High School 0
AA West Region
Minot High School 1900
Bismarck Century High School 1252
Bismarck Legacy High School 1189
Williston High School 1166
Bismarck High School 1145
Mandan High School 1033
Dickinson 945
Jamestown High School 665
Turtle Mountain Comm HS 529
Bismarck St. Mary's 0
Watford City 387
Region 1A
Central Cass High School 227
Kindred High School 200
Lisbon High School 178
Northern Cass High School 162
Milnor/North Sargent 140
Oakes High School 138
Edgeley/Kulm/Montpelier 133
Wyndmere/Lidgerwood 131
Region 2A
Grafton Spoilers 268
Four Winds/Minnewaukan 231
Hillsboro/Central Valley 213
Langdon Area/Edmore/Munich 176
May-Port CG HS 153
Carrington High School 148
Park River/Fordville-Lankin 143
Thompson High School 132
Region 3A
Bottineau High School 195
Stanley High School 192
Dunseith High School 190
Harvey/Wells County 181
Des Lacs-Burlington HS 175
Rugby High School 166
Velva High School 145
Nedrose High School 136
Region 4A
New Town High School 261
Beulah High School 201
Standing Rock Community High School 200
Hazen High School 174
Heart River 174
Dickinson Trinity High School 150
Killdeer High School 142
Shiloh Christian High School 140
Region 1 B
Oak Grove High School 123
LaMoure-Litchville/Marion 119
Linton/HMB Lions 117
Kidder County High School 115
Napoleon/G-S Imperials 101
Ellendale High School 95
South Border Mustangs 91
Barnes County North High School 84
Medina-Pingree/Buchanan 83
Enderlin High School 82
Richland High School 79
Hankinson High School 76
Maple Valley High School 61
Sargent Central High School 59
Drake/Anamoose Raiders 58
Strasburg/Zeeland 54
Midkota 49
Tri-State: Fairmount-Campbell-Tintah-Rosholt 0
Region 2B
Cavalier High School 129
Hatton/Northwood 125
Midway/Minto 122
St. John High School 121
Drayton/Valley-Edinburg 113
North Border 110
Larimore High School 109
New Rockford-Sheyenne High School 88
TGU Titans 88
Dakota Prairie High School 78
North Star 75
Finley-Sharon/Hope Page 74
Benson County 74
Rolla High School 65
Griggs County Central High School 62
Warwick High School 60
Westhope/Newburg 60
Rolette/Wolford Comets 58
Lakota High School 57
Region 3B
Bowman County High School 130
Garrison High School 119
Beach High School 115
Hettinger/Scranton 114
Wilton-Wing 97
Washburn High School 89
New Salem-Almont High School 88
Richardton-Taylor High School 82
Glen Ullin/Hebron 77
Turtle Lake-Mercer/McClusky 72
New England High School 70
Flasher 66
Mott-Regent HS 59
Grant County HS 58
Solen High School 55
Max High School 53
Underwood High School 51
Center-Stanton HS 48
Region 4B
Tioga High School 120
South Prairie High School 111
Bishop Ryan High School 109
Divide County High School 102
Mohall-Lansford-Sherwood High School 100
Surrey High School 94
Trenton High School 89
Glenburn High School 86
Ray High School 82
Kenmare High School 77
Lewis & Clark High School - Berthold 67
Parshall High School 64
Bowbells/Burke Central 62
Our Redeemer's HS 59
Mandaree High School 56
Alexander High School 53
White Shield High School 50
Powers Lake High School 49
Lewis & Clark, North Shore 36
Williston Trinity Christian High School 32
B Historian wrote:classB4ever wrote:Here's how a 22,32,75 using this year's enrollment would look. Someone with better geographical sense can probably do a better job of placing them. Just for discussion.
AA East Region
West Fargo High School 1458
West Fargo Sheyenne High School 1285
Fargo Davies High School 1261
Grand Forks Red River 1071
Fargo South High School 1034
Grand Forks Central 1020
Fargo North High School 898
Devils Lake Firebirds 476
Valley City High School 339
Wahpeton High School 333
Shanley High School 0
AA West Region
Minot High School 1900
Bismarck Century High School 1252
Bismarck Legacy High School 1189
Williston High School 1166
Bismarck High School 1145
Mandan High School 1033
Dickinson 945
Jamestown High School 665
Turtle Mountain Comm HS 529
Bismarck St. Mary's 0
Watford City 387
Region 1A
Central Cass High School 227
Kindred High School 200
Lisbon High School 178
Northern Cass High School 162
Milnor/North Sargent 140
Oakes High School 138
Edgeley/Kulm/Montpelier 133
Wyndmere/Lidgerwood 131
Region 2A
Grafton Spoilers 268
Four Winds/Minnewaukan 231
Hillsboro/Central Valley 213
Langdon Area/Edmore/Munich 176
May-Port CG HS 153
Carrington High School 148
Park River/Fordville-Lankin 143
Thompson High School 132
Region 3A
Bottineau High School 195
Stanley High School 192
Dunseith High School 190
Harvey/Wells County 181
Des Lacs-Burlington HS 175
Rugby High School 166
Velva High School 145
Nedrose High School 136
Region 4A
New Town High School 261
Beulah High School 201
Standing Rock Community High School 200
Hazen High School 174
Heart River 174
Dickinson Trinity High School 150
Killdeer High School 142
Shiloh Christian High School 140
Region 1 B
Oak Grove High School 123
LaMoure-Litchville/Marion 119
Linton/HMB Lions 117
Kidder County High School 115
Napoleon/G-S Imperials 101
Ellendale High School 95
South Border Mustangs 91
Barnes County North High School 84
Medina-Pingree/Buchanan 83
Enderlin High School 82
Richland High School 79
Hankinson High School 76
Maple Valley High School 61
Sargent Central High School 59
Drake/Anamoose Raiders 58
Strasburg/Zeeland 54
Midkota 49
Tri-State: Fairmount-Campbell-Tintah-Rosholt 0
Region 2B
Cavalier High School 129
Hatton/Northwood 125
Midway/Minto 122
St. John High School 121
Drayton/Valley-Edinburg 113
North Border 110
Larimore High School 109
New Rockford-Sheyenne High School 88
TGU Titans 88
Dakota Prairie High School 78
North Star 75
Finley-Sharon/Hope Page 74
Benson County 74
Rolla High School 65
Griggs County Central High School 62
Warwick High School 60
Westhope/Newburg 60
Rolette/Wolford Comets 58
Lakota High School 57
Region 3B
Bowman County High School 130
Garrison High School 119
Beach High School 115
Hettinger/Scranton 114
Wilton-Wing 97
Washburn High School 89
New Salem-Almont High School 88
Richardton-Taylor High School 82
Glen Ullin/Hebron 77
Turtle Lake-Mercer/McClusky 72
New England High School 70
Flasher 66
Mott-Regent HS 59
Grant County HS 58
Solen High School 55
Max High School 53
Underwood High School 51
Center-Stanton HS 48
Region 4B
Tioga High School 120
South Prairie High School 111
Bishop Ryan High School 109
Divide County High School 102
Mohall-Lansford-Sherwood High School 100
Surrey High School 94
Trenton High School 89
Glenburn High School 86
Ray High School 82
Kenmare High School 77
Lewis & Clark High School - Berthold 67
Parshall High School 64
Bowbells/Burke Central 62
Our Redeemer's HS 59
Mandaree High School 56
Alexander High School 53
White Shield High School 50
Powers Lake High School 49
Lewis & Clark, North Shore 36
Williston Trinity Christian High School 32
Nice work on this. A plan like this gets Dickinson Trinity out of Class B and it seems people in the SW part of the state upset about Trinity account for 75% of the complaining about needing three classes. However, Oak Grove and Our Redeemer's would still be Class B so unless there is some sort of multiplier introduced for private schools there would still be privates in Class B. Maybe Oak Grove opts up, but they would dominate the smaller schools in their region in B.
One factor people always miss when considering why ND doesn't have 3 classes: there are basically no mid-sized schools in the state. There are only 5-6 schools between 265 and 900 in enrollment. The lack of schools in this size range is why we have the ridiculous 10 team AA football. Do we break up a two-class basketball system that has been successful for 50 years to create a third class that likely doesn't address all of the perceived inequities?
Another thing to consider: Would some coops like Milnor-North Sargent, Wyndmere-Lidgerwood and Heart River split up to stay out of Class A? In my opinion this would be a good thing but could make forming a middle class a moving target.
Also, I think in any three class system, Valley City, Watford City and Wahpeton need to be in the middle class. I think the enrollment cutoff for the upper class should be about 450.
The Schwab wrote:classB4ever wrote:Here's how a 22,32,75 using this year's enrollment would look. Someone with better geographical sense can probably do a better job of placing them. Just for discussion.
AA East Region
West Fargo High School 1458
West Fargo Sheyenne High School 1285
Fargo Davies High School 1261
Grand Forks Red River 1071
Fargo South High School 1034
Grand Forks Central 1020
Fargo North High School 898
Devils Lake Firebirds 476
Valley City High School 339
Wahpeton High School 333
Shanley High School 0
AA West Region
Bismarck Century High School 1252
Bismarck Legacy High School 1189
Williston High School 1166
Bismarck High School 1145
Mandan High School 1033
Dickinson 945
Minot High School 900
Jamestown High School 665
Turtle Mountain Comm HS 529
Bismarck St. Mary's 0
Watford City 387
Region 1A
Central Cass High School 227
Kindred High School 200
Lisbon High School 178
Northern Cass High School 162
Milnor/North Sargent 140
Oakes High School 138
Edgeley/Kulm/Montpelier 133
Wyndmere/Lidgerwood 131
Region 2A
Grafton Spoilers 268
Four Winds/Minnewaukan 231
Hillsboro/Central Valley 213
Langdon Area/Edmore/Munich 176
May-Port CG HS 153
Carrington High School 148
Park River/Fordville-Lankin 143
Thompson High School 132
Region 3A
Bottineau High School 195
Stanley High School 192
Dunseith High School 190
Harvey/Wells County 181
Des Lacs-Burlington HS 175
Rugby High School 166
Velva High School 145
Nedrose High School 136
Region 4A
New Town High School 261
Beulah High School 201
Standing Rock Community High School 200
Hazen High School 174
Heart River 174
Dickinson Trinity High School 150
Killdeer High School 142
Shiloh Christian High School 140
Region 1 B
Oak Grove High School 123
LaMoure-Litchville/Marion 119
Linton/HMB Lions 117
Kidder County High School 115
Napoleon/G-S Imperials 101
Ellendale High School 95
South Border Mustangs 91
Barnes County North High School 84
Medina-Pingree/Buchanan 83
Enderlin High School 82
Richland High School 79
Hankinson High School 76
Maple Valley High School 61
Sargent Central High School 59
Drake/Anamoose Raiders 58
Strasburg/Zeeland 54
Midkota 49
Tri-State: Fairmount-Campbell-Tintah-Rosholt 0
Region 2B
Cavalier High School 129
Hatton/Northwood 125
Midway/Minto 122
St. John High School 121
Drayton/Valley-Edinburg 113
North Border 110
Larimore High School 109
New Rockford-Sheyenne High School 88
TGU Titans 88
Dakota Prairie High School 78
North Star 75
Finley-Sharon/Hope Page 74
Benson County 74
Rolla High School 65
Griggs County Central High School 62
Warwick High School 60
Westhope/Newburg 60
Rolette/Wolford Comets 58
Lakota High School 57
Region 3B
Bowman County High School 130
Garrison High School 119
Beach High School 115
Hettinger/Scranton 114
Wilton-Wing 97
Washburn High School 89
New Salem-Almont High School 88
Richardton-Taylor High School 82
Glen Ullin/Hebron 77
Turtle Lake-Mercer/McClusky 72
New England High School 70
Flasher 66
Mott-Regent HS 59
Grant County HS 58
Solen High School 55
Max High School 53
Underwood High School 51
Center-Stanton HS 48
Region 4B
Tioga High School 120
South Prairie High School 111
Bishop Ryan High School 109
Divide County High School 102
Mohall-Lansford-Sherwood High School 100
Surrey High School 94
Trenton High School 89
Glenburn High School 86
Ray High School 82
Kenmare High School 77
Lewis & Clark High School - Berthold 67
Parshall High School 64
Bowbells/Burke Central 62
Our Redeemer's HS 59
Mandaree High School 56
Alexander High School 53
White Shield High School 50
Powers Lake High School 49
Lewis & Clark, North Shore 36
Williston Trinity Christian High School 32
This looks like a system that makes sense, could bring back district level basketball for class B and would create a lot of excitement.
Bisonguy06 wrote:Do you think you could bank on the private schools opting up into the middle class if they didn't land there by enrollment?
Bisonguy06 wrote:Do you think you could bank on the private schools opting up into the middle class if they didn't land there by enrollment?
woodchuck10 wrote:B Historian wrote:classB4ever wrote:Here's how a 22,32,75 using this year's enrollment would look. Someone with better geographical sense can probably do a better job of placing them. Just for discussion.
AA East Region
West Fargo High School 1458
West Fargo Sheyenne High School 1285
Fargo Davies High School 1261
Grand Forks Red River 1071
Fargo South High School 1034
Grand Forks Central 1020
Fargo North High School 898
Devils Lake Firebirds 476
Valley City High School 339
Wahpeton High School 333
Shanley High School 0
AA West Region
Minot High School 1900
Bismarck Century High School 1252
Bismarck Legacy High School 1189
Williston High School 1166
Bismarck High School 1145
Mandan High School 1033
Dickinson 945
Jamestown High School 665
Turtle Mountain Comm HS 529
Bismarck St. Mary's 0
Watford City 387
Region 1A
Central Cass High School 227
Kindred High School 200
Lisbon High School 178
Northern Cass High School 162
Milnor/North Sargent 140
Oakes High School 138
Edgeley/Kulm/Montpelier 133
Wyndmere/Lidgerwood 131
Region 2A
Grafton Spoilers 268
Four Winds/Minnewaukan 231
Hillsboro/Central Valley 213
Langdon Area/Edmore/Munich 176
May-Port CG HS 153
Carrington High School 148
Park River/Fordville-Lankin 143
Thompson High School 132
Region 3A
Bottineau High School 195
Stanley High School 192
Dunseith High School 190
Harvey/Wells County 181
Des Lacs-Burlington HS 175
Rugby High School 166
Velva High School 145
Nedrose High School 136
Region 4A
New Town High School 261
Beulah High School 201
Standing Rock Community High School 200
Hazen High School 174
Heart River 174
Dickinson Trinity High School 150
Killdeer High School 142
Shiloh Christian High School 140
Region 1 B
Oak Grove High School 123
LaMoure-Litchville/Marion 119
Linton/HMB Lions 117
Kidder County High School 115
Napoleon/G-S Imperials 101
Ellendale High School 95
South Border Mustangs 91
Barnes County North High School 84
Medina-Pingree/Buchanan 83
Enderlin High School 82
Richland High School 79
Hankinson High School 76
Maple Valley High School 61
Sargent Central High School 59
Drake/Anamoose Raiders 58
Strasburg/Zeeland 54
Midkota 49
Tri-State: Fairmount-Campbell-Tintah-Rosholt 0
Region 2B
Cavalier High School 129
Hatton/Northwood 125
Midway/Minto 122
St. John High School 121
Drayton/Valley-Edinburg 113
North Border 110
Larimore High School 109
New Rockford-Sheyenne High School 88
TGU Titans 88
Dakota Prairie High School 78
North Star 75
Finley-Sharon/Hope Page 74
Benson County 74
Rolla High School 65
Griggs County Central High School 62
Warwick High School 60
Westhope/Newburg 60
Rolette/Wolford Comets 58
Lakota High School 57
Region 3B
Bowman County High School 130
Garrison High School 119
Beach High School 115
Hettinger/Scranton 114
Wilton-Wing 97
Washburn High School 89
New Salem-Almont High School 88
Richardton-Taylor High School 82
Glen Ullin/Hebron 77
Turtle Lake-Mercer/McClusky 72
New England High School 70
Flasher 66
Mott-Regent HS 59
Grant County HS 58
Solen High School 55
Max High School 53
Underwood High School 51
Center-Stanton HS 48
Region 4B
Tioga High School 120
South Prairie High School 111
Bishop Ryan High School 109
Divide County High School 102
Mohall-Lansford-Sherwood High School 100
Surrey High School 94
Trenton High School 89
Glenburn High School 86
Ray High School 82
Kenmare High School 77
Lewis & Clark High School - Berthold 67
Parshall High School 64
Bowbells/Burke Central 62
Our Redeemer's HS 59
Mandaree High School 56
Alexander High School 53
White Shield High School 50
Powers Lake High School 49
Lewis & Clark, North Shore 36
Williston Trinity Christian High School 32
Nice work on this. A plan like this gets Dickinson Trinity out of Class B and it seems people in the SW part of the state upset about Trinity account for 75% of the complaining about needing three classes. However, Oak Grove and Our Redeemer's would still be Class B so unless there is some sort of multiplier introduced for private schools there would still be privates in Class B. Maybe Oak Grove opts up, but they would dominate the smaller schools in their region in B.
One factor people always miss when considering why ND doesn't have 3 classes: there are basically no mid-sized schools in the state. There are only 5-6 schools between 265 and 900 in enrollment. The lack of schools in this size range is why we have the ridiculous 10 team AA football. Do we break up a two-class basketball system that has been successful for 50 years to create a third class that likely doesn't address all of the perceived inequities?
Another thing to consider: Would some coops like Milnor-North Sargent, Wyndmere-Lidgerwood and Heart River split up to stay out of Class A? In my opinion this would be a good thing but could make forming a middle class a moving target.
Also, I think in any three class system, Valley City, Watford City and Wahpeton need to be in the middle class. I think the enrollment cutoff for the upper class should be about 450.
Something like this? 16, 20, 93. I just put all the B privates in the middle class without regards to enrollment. They should just agree to do it. We might actually like and root for them as the little guy against big bad Devils Lake or Jamestown etc lol
AA
EDC
West Fargo
West Fargo Sheyenne
Fargo North
Fargo South
Fargo Davies
Fargo Shanley
GF Central
GF Red River
WDA
Bismarck
Century
Legacy
St. Mary’s
Mandan
Williston
Dickinson
Minot
A
East
Jamestown
Valley City
Wahpeton
Devils Lake
Fargo Oak Grove
Central Cass
Kindred
Grafton
Four Winds/Minnewaukan
Hillsboro/CV
West
Belcourt
Watford City
Bishop Ryan
Our Redeemers
Shiloh Christian
Dickinson Trinity
Williston Trinity
New Town
Beulah
Standing Rock
B
The rest. Probably 8 regions. Maybe 4.
B Historian wrote:As I alluded to in my post above this one, travel would be a huge issue for a new Class A. If there was for example a 32 team Class A split into four regions, then the assumption would be that each team would play every other team within it's region both home and away (14 games). You are looking at extensive travel for many schools, some match ups requiring 300 mile round trips for a "regional" game. With GBB and volleyball also facing similar schedules this would be very tough for many schools.
The next issue is state tournament scheduling. The current setup works very well. It's TV friendly and provides exposure for everyone. How do you go about scheduling another entire class? You can't combine the A and B tournaments in the same location on the same weekend: there is no town in the state with enough hotel space. The only scheduling setup that would work is to have the girls A & B tournaments the first weekend in March in different locations, then the Super AA the second weekend and the boys A & B tournaments in different locations the third weekend in March. In this scenario someone is going to left out of the TV coverage. It's also quite possible that attendance suffers greatly as well.
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