hoopster1 wrote:Isn't Knife at Bottineau?
EDC wrote:This will be Jamestown's year. Guards will step up.
aaronrules wrote:EDC wrote:This will be Jamestown's year. Guards will step up.
EDC wrote:aaronrules wrote:EDC wrote:This will be Jamestown's year. Guards will step up.
which guards are you referring to?[/quote
Every year kids graduate. Every year people say there aren’t players to step in. But, every year new players step in and fill the holes. I don’t know who Jamestown has only that somebody will do the job.
EDC wrote:Which teams last year did not have adequate guard play? Do you think a school and system the size of Jamestown will not produce adequate guards? No, the guards will be there. Who will the guards be? Do you know? I don't. Are you willing to say that whoever they are that they will be inadequate? Probably untested and unknown would be more accurate.
balla45 wrote:dowork wrote:Century has a good shot at a state title this year. with athletes like buck, peterson, sorenson, jossart and vanderpan, a rank of 5th is way low. they made it to state last year with basically the same team as this year. the only noteworthy senior they lost was Tasha Michelson.
It will be Mandan, Bismarck, Jamestown, or Fargo South. Century will be there next year.
ul371 wrote:Eminence,
Jamestown could make it interesting if they went to a big lineup. They could have Ramlo, Hanson, Meikle, or Schmidt inside and down low. All these girls are about 6 foot or better. Then move Dale to guard. That could become a tough team to rebound against when your using your taller players to guard Dale outside. Then if Jamestown can minimize the dribble and work the ball around by passing, you can get by without a true 2nd guard. Teams can breaks presses without dribbling using sharp accurate passes.
EDC wrote:If a team is taught right they should be able to break a press whether they have all posts or all guards. Assuming of course that your players can at least dribble and they know when to dribble and when to pass and very important, need to be strong enough to make a cross court pass. Need to recognize what type of press it is and where the open spots are. South has great personel and great coaching when they press teams. What makes their press very effective is they have many variations and constantly change it. Teams don't recognize they are going up against different presses and traps till it is too late. Pass though zone presses and dribble through man to man presses. Every press has spots where people will be open and a tall player should be able to pass over much of the defensive pressure. Avoiding a trap is a measure of how well a player is taught not necessarily how good a person can dribble. If the TEAM knows where the weaknesses are and how to attack a press they should be able to break it and yes, in my opinion, without a stud guard. Of course, a smart dribbling guard solves many of these issues.
EastGuruWannabe wrote:EDC wrote:If a team is taught right they should be able to break a press whether they have all posts or all guards. Assuming of course that your players can at least dribble and they know when to dribble and when to pass and very important, need to be strong enough to make a cross court pass. Need to recognize what type of press it is and where the open spots are. South has great personel and great coaching when they press teams. What makes their press very effective is they have many variations and constantly change it. Teams don't recognize they are going up against different presses and traps till it is too late. Pass though zone presses and dribble through man to man presses. Every press has spots where people will be open and a tall player should be able to pass over much of the defensive pressure. Avoiding a trap is a measure of how well a player is taught not necessarily how good a person can dribble. If the TEAM knows where the weaknesses are and how to attack a press they should be able to break it and yes, in my opinion, without a stud guard. Of course, a smart dribbling guard solves many of these issues.
So you're saying if a team can't break a press effectively, they are not well coached? The theory that if you get your people in the right spots you can break presses is great - in theory. Unfortunately for teams that have no guards, the game isn't played in theory. When South or Mandan play sic 'em, you better have good guards or you will get schooled. period. All press breakers look great on paper, (or in 7th grade travelling ball) but on paper you don't have Siri Burck's 6 foot frame and long arms contesting and tipping every pass you try and throw or Ali Collins' great quickness and instincts getting steal after steal. Yes, South mixes it up, but Mandan certainly doesn't. Every single coach in the state knows exactly whats coming with Mandan, and yet somehow their press is still effective. Can no other coach in the state get their kids to simply get in the right spots and pass through their press?
Assuming of course that your players can at least dribble and they know when to dribble and when to pass and very important, need to be strong enough to make a cross court pass. Need to recognize what type of press it is and where the open spots are.
Eminence wrote:The press doesn't necessarily result in steals. Teams often break a press but it causes the team to rush their shot on offense or take them out of their comfort zone. The shot clock is a huge factor. Teams work so hard to break it, they run alot of the clock down when they could be running their offense. I don't know what Shanley's problem was with South but thay may have been a factor.
I agree with EDC that you need to make a team pay a few times, so they call off the press. However, that doesn't seem to happen when teams in the WDA play Mandan. I guess we will see Thursday night when Century plays Mandan. How did Jamestown do against the press? I did not see steals but I did see that they had a lot of turnovers against Mandan and Fargo South.
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