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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:24 pm
by rep
tough to say really...statistics in basketball enter the realm of nearly being trivial...they really don't mean near as much as some would think from what i can tell. but they are a starting point i guess for players to enter a discussion. i tend to go by things like shooting percentage more than points per game, for example, because it tells you what a player is doing with their time on the floor.

if someone dominates for two and a half quarters a game and then sits the rest, they might not have as good of stats as someone who plays on a horrible team where they are the only option...but the nod would go to the player with team success, in my mind.

i would think that kielpinski is probably at the front of the discussion at this point, but it is also june. tough to say really.

PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 7:31 pm
by cdub1
Kielpinski will win Miss Basketball.  I will bet any money on that.  She'll be a 5 time champion which nobody else is and she is the best player.  She can't lose.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 7:14 am
by demonfan74
LaFrance committed to UND.  Turned down full-ride D-1 offer from Wyoming who was in the NIT tourney and a likely team to make NCAA tourney within the next few years. 

PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 8:23 pm
by Ditka14
commited before her senior year thats weird i would have waited to see what else came in

PostPosted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 11:56 am
by Ming01
It's just a commit it doesnt necessarily mean that is where she is going.  She could back out.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 5:33 am
by UND9296
Ming01 wrote:It's just a commit it doesnt necessarily mean that is where she is going.  She could back out.


She could, but based upon her comments in this Grand Forks Herald article:

 http://www.grandforks.com/mld/grandforks/sports/colleges/university_of_north_dakota/14992696.htm

it appears unlikely that she will back out. The lure of playing for a very good program close to home, and one which has very good fan support, is pretty strong for a lot of girls. For example, UND sophomore-to-be Kierah Kimbrough turned down Iowa State and dozens of other major conference dI schools to go to UND.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 7:48 pm
by cdub1
Out of curiousity what was her scholarship for.  Academics, basketball, volleyball...  I can not be sure but I doubt she would get a d1 full ride for basketball unless it is combined with volleyball.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 8:08 pm
by Ditka14
cdub1 wrote:Out of curiousity what was her scholarship for.  Academics, basketball, volleyball...  I can not be sure but I doubt she would get a d1 full ride for basketball unless it is combined with volleyball.

i agree i think the money was big to go to UND verse just guessing Wyoming offered her proboly half of what UND will give her she isn't good enough to get a full-ride D1 for basketball, plus UND has a big fan base because they bring in the local players that is why they kick the money out to these locals

PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 6:34 am
by demonfan74
Ditka14 wrote:
cdub1 wrote:Out of curiousity what was her scholarship for.  Academics, basketball, volleyball...  I can not be sure but I doubt she would get a d1 full ride for basketball unless it is combined with volleyball.

i agree i think the money was big to go to UND verse just guessing Wyoming offered her proboly half of what UND will give her she isn't good enough to get a full-ride D1 for basketball, plus UND has a big fan base because they bring in the local players that is why they kick the money out to these locals

Read above. She turned down a full ride for basketball.  They went to the U of Wyoming for a team camp and she was recognized there.  Pardon me if I'm wrong, because I was not there, but I don't think they played volleyball on their free time and the head volleyball coach happened to see her play and decided to give her a scholarship.  Good try though.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 4:17 am
by catch22
Ditka14 and Cdub1:


 I think she has everything necessary to play at a D-1 level.  She has size and strength for a point guard and an incredible amount of athletic ability.  Unfortunately, many ND preps do not get enough exposure and there for have to settle for other smaller schools.  I also think you are extremely bias, as you are in many other posts. If she played for mandan, you would be saying she could play at all kinds of D-1 schools, but instead you are trying to minimize her accomplishments.  Just give up the credit when it's deserved. 

PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 4:56 pm
by Ditka14
catch22 wrote:Ditka14 and Cdub1:


 I think she has everything necessary to play at a D-1 level.  She has size and strength for a point guard and an incredible amount of athletic ability.  Unfortunately, many ND preps do not get enough exposure and there for have to settle for other smaller schools.  I also think you are extremely bias, as you are in many other posts. If she played for mandan, you would be saying she could play at all kinds of D-1 schools, but instead you are trying to minimize her accomplishments.  Just give up the credit when it's deserved. 

She would fail as a D1 point gaurd, see cracks under pressure D1 would make her uncomfortable

PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 8:01 pm
by catch22
Ditka14 wrote:
catch22 wrote:Ditka14 and Cdub1:


 I think she has everything necessary to play at a D-1 level.  She has size and strength for a point guard and an incredible amount of athletic ability.  Unfortunately, many ND preps do not get enough exposure and there for have to settle for other smaller schools.  I also think you are extremely bias, as you are in many other posts. If she played for mandan, you would be saying she could play at all kinds of D-1 schools, but instead you are trying to minimize her accomplishments.  Just give up the credit when it's deserved. 

She would fail as a D1 point gaurd, see cracks under pressure D1 would make her uncomfortable

Haha.  And you are qualified to make that assessment on what it takes to be a D-1 PG? and you know how she would feel?  A pressure game for a player is against the top teams in the state and at tourney time.  As a soph I believe she avg. over 15 ppg against mandan alone and single-handedly broke their "almighty press".  As a jr. it was around 17 in post season.  And if she was discovered at a Wyoming camp, that's a huge gamble for a legit D-1 program to take on a player they saw play for a couple days.  Instead of saying she would fail in college, let's first see what she'll do as a sr. in HS and then make predictions. Maybe she's improved since we last saw her go down at state.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 7:34 pm
by cdub1
I was mistaken but I assumed it would be combined with volleyball as she is really good at that also.  There is also no bias at all I have never said anybody from Mandan could thrive at D-1.  If Kielpinski got a D-1 scholarship I think demonfan would say something like she only got it because her dad called the coach 400 times.  I didnt say anything biased at all.  I didnt even say she would fail or anything I just said I didnt think it would be a full ride for only basketball, so actually figure out who the biased ones really are.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 8:29 am
by ndbb
Morgan Dale who is going to be a Soph. for Jamestown will be tough again.  All-Conference as a Freshman.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 9:45 am
by Wild Wolves
Typically DI and DII schools don't combine scholarship money (VB and BB).  That is more of an NAIA thing.  The reason being that they either give full, 1/2 or walk-on opportunities.

As for LaFrance she will do well where ever she goes.

 

PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 7:16 am
by demonfan74
cdub1 wrote:I was mistaken but I assumed it would be combined with volleyball as she is really good at that also.  There is also no bias at all I have never said anybody from Mandan could thrive at D-1.  If Kielpinski got a D-1 scholarship I think demonfan would say something like she only got it because her dad called the coach 400 times.  I didnt say anything biased at all.  I didnt even say she would fail or anything I just said I didnt think it would be a full ride for only basketball, so actually figure out who the biased ones really are.

Hey, you said it.  not me.  And I don't think I'm bias... I have had no problem complimenting others. 

PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 7:57 pm
by cdub1
What did I say and how do I not compliment others.  I compliment many different players who arent just from my town.

PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 9:52 am
by demonfan74
cdub1 wrote:What did I say and how do I not compliment others.  I compliment many different players who arent just from my town.

You said her dad calls the coach and I never said you don't compliment others.  And then I added I compliment others as well, that are not just from my town.  Don't get all defensive...it's just a post. 

PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 10:47 am
by nd-ball41
Morgan Dale, Chelsea Johnson, and Madey Hornung will all be very solid players this year for the Blue Jays.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 12:33 pm
by demonfan74
For Jamestown yes, but not for the wda or even the best class A players.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 1:25 pm
by cdub1
What are you talking about.  Morgan Dale is an amazing player.  Did you look at the numbers she put up as a freshman.  She isnt going to get worse.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 7:23 pm
by nd-ball41
cdub1 wrote:What are you talking about.  Morgan Dale is an amazing player.  Did you look at the numbers she put up as a freshman.  She isnt going to get worse.

thank you cdub1..somebody knows what i am talking about

PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 7:13 pm
by Mr. Me Too
Shaunna Knife is a darn good player co'mon people

PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 5:04 am
by cdub1
shauna is amazing and if she had some help more people would notice her

PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 5:20 am
by Hi Rizer
[align=left]Kielpinski- Senior Mandan
Ashley Privatski- Junior-Devils Lake
Marley Finlee- Junior- Mandan
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