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Choosing

PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 11:09 am
by Baller
Back in the day, early 90's, Girls were able to play in both the Lion's All Star basketball game and the Optimist Volleyball game. Now they have to choose. Why should they have to choose. If they are good at both, they should be able to play in both. Players like Braun, Stroup, Privratsky, Smith should not have to choose which sport to play in.

Re: Choosing

PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 11:43 am
by Wild Wolves
Why not keep it as is and make them choose thus opening a spot for more to participate?

Re: Choosing

PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 2:54 pm
by Eminence
True but Baller has a good point. You want to see the best of the best, no matter what sport it is. Why limit it unless they play at the same time.

Re: Choosing

PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 6:06 pm
by Baller
Wild Wolves wrote:Why not keep it as is and make them choose thus opening a spot for more to participate?


Then if you play varsity volleyball you shouldn't be able to play varsity basketball thus opening a spot for more to participate??

Re: Choosing

PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:32 pm
by Wild Wolves
Not what was said, there are only so many weeks in a summer. The same kids (or at least many of them) are also baseball players. So if they can play both that is two weeks away from te sport that is in season.

Re: Choosing

PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 9:32 pm
by dgfsuperfan1
Life is full of tough choices. I think you will get the players that "really love" the sport they chose, and that sport was their priority. Just my opionion.

Re: Choosing

PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 9:34 pm
by dgfsuperfan1
Wild Wolves wrote:Not what was said, there are only so many weeks in a summer. The same kids (or at least many of them) are also baseball players. So if they can play both that is two weeks away from te sport that is in season.


Good point. Many kids participate in summer sports or have summer jobs. So I believe they need to make their own choice based on their own priorities.

Re: Choosing

PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 9:45 pm
by Baller
Wild Wolves wrote:Not what was said, there are only so many weeks in a summer. The same kids (or at least many of them) are also baseball players. So if they can play both that is two weeks away from te sport that is in season.


This is girls...there is no baseball in the summer. What sport is there in the summer for girls other than soccer and most girls don't play summer soccer after their senior year.

My second point is, what if I love both basketball and volleyaball, but I am getting a scholarship to play one in college. I am probably going to choose that sport, but why not be able to play both and have that last game of the other sport.

Why should everyone get a chance to participate. If I am better than you at both sports then I should be the "ALL STAR" at both sports. Don't diminish the accomplishments of a player for being a stud in more than one sport.

My last point is that if a player is selected to play in a sport, that should be listed in the program. Lets just use Lexi Braun as an example. If she chooses to play volleyball in the all star game, The basketball program should list the original 12 players chosen and for the ones that chose the opposite sport, the program should state, Lexi chose to play in the volleyball game. As a fan, I want to know if I am watching the 12 BEST players, or if some of them are second best because some players chose to play another sport.

Re: Choosing

PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 9:54 pm
by dgfsuperfan1
Wild Wolves wrote:Not what was said, there are only so many weeks in a summer. The same kids (or at least many of them) are also baseball players. So if they can play both that is two weeks away from te sport that is in season.


Did you mean to say fastpitch softball? Most girls switch from baseball to fastpitch after 5th or 6th grade. Their summer season starts the second week in June and the start tournement play the last two weeks of July, so their season conflicts with the volleyball and basketball all star games. Most Seniors play the summer fastpitch season because the spring high school season is short.

Re: Choosing

PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 10:42 pm
by Wild Wolves
I was actually thinking about the guys (opps). But I had a cousin who was an outstanding VB player but liked SB even more. Limited chances to play fast pitch in ND.

Baller:
Would you like a list of players that were unable to attend due to military obligation? How about the list of athletes that were originally choosen but removed for drinking violations? It would be tough to get an accurate list of the 12 best. Will always be debatable.

Re: Choosing

PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 10:44 pm
by Baller
Actually yes...I want the list of the original 12 players chosen to play in the game. Who were the 12 best players in each class as chosen by the coaches.

Re: Choosing

PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 10:46 pm
by Baller
That is also the week that North Dakota takes a team to Australia...some girls chose to go to Australia instead of playing in the All Star game...That fine, but tell us who the original 12 were and then go from there.

Re: Choosing

PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 11:09 pm
by sportsguruguy
I agree with you baller.I to want to see the best athletes play in all star games. Lets say you have an athlete that plays two or three sports in a year. This young lady busts her butt every day to be the best athlete she can be. She makes ALL STATE in two of the sports she participated in because of her dedication and hard work. But she can only take part in one all star game that is bogus. So she has to chose one of the sports and let a lower calaber player take her spot in the other. BOGUS!!!

Re: Choosing

PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 11:19 pm
by grlsbballfan
Wild Wolves wrote:Why not keep it as is and make them choose thus opening a spot for more to participate?


As i sit here and read this blog, IT IS AN ALL STAR GAME, the best players should be playing. It shouldnt matter how many sports a person is good at. If you are deserving you should be accepted in everyone you do.For those players that dont make it do to a two or three sport ALL STATER i suggest you get in the gym and weight room and work because life is not fair.A person makes the best of it by dedication and hard work!!!

Re: Choosing

PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:26 am
by Wild Wolves
Sorry but because of the MIP portion of the requirements they will never be able to tell you the entire list. You may have to do some investigating to find out why a good player was left off.

I hope that it is undestood that this is a very political process just like all state and all conference selections.

Re: Choosing

PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:03 am
by 2008tournement
I just hope they have all chosen to be sports animals and not party animals!

Re: Choosing

PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 9:13 am
by Eminence
sportsguruguy wrote:I agree with you baller.I to want to see the best athletes play in all star games. Lets say you have an athlete that plays two or three sports in a year. This young lady busts her butt every day to be the best athlete she can be. She makes ALL STATE in two of the sports she participated in because of her dedication and hard work. But she can only take part in one all star game that is bogus. So she has to chose one of the sports and let a lower calaber player take her spot in the other. BOGUS!!!


I agree, Why would we want to watch a lower calaber player. This is suppose to be the best of the best All STAR GAME. In that case, Open it up to all the seniors and let them all play. Then you can watch them all. :roll: Ya right, it defeats the purpose of an ALL STAR GAME.

Re: Choosing

PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 8:36 am
by luvmy3gbb1wr
Why are you assuming that another player is a drop in caliber? There are some excellent players out there that did not get chosen for the all state team, etc. Just because they weren't in the inital six doesn't mean they struggle...

Re: Choosing

PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 8:50 am
by dgfsuperfan1
luvmy3gbb1wr wrote:Why are you assuming that another player is a drop in caliber? There are some excellent players out there that did not get chosen for the all state team, etc. Just because they weren't in the inital six doesn't mean they aren't cool...


I agree. Some Seniors played on very good balanced teams that smoked their opponents the first half than sat the second because of big leads. So their stats were not as good as some players that were the stars on losing teams that did not even make it to state. Also, the coaches nominate the players and I have a lot more confidence in their selection than how the press selects all star teams.

Re: Choosing

PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 1:58 pm
by sportsguruguy
luvmy3gbb1wr wrote:Why are you assuming that another player is a drop in caliber? There are some excellent players out there that did not get chosen for the all state team, etc. Just because they weren't in the inital six doesn't mean they aren't cool...


I was just using the all stater as an example to get my point across. If you are selected you should be able to participate in each one.
I agree that there is good players that dont receive the all state award but I want to see the best that comes out of north dakota competeing against each other.If a young lady has to chose from one sport or another in which game to play in and she picks softball instead of basketball, yes your getting a lower calaber player in basketball to fill the original girls spot.