Re: Predictions on tonight's Mandan - Jamestown Game
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 4:15 pm
Baller wrote:Eminence wrote:EastGuruWannabe wrote:Eminence wrote:You have to wonder though. The foul count was 29 to 12 with Collins only being able to play about a 1/3 of the game. Might be some home cooking going on. I remember last year in Hockey, Jamestown vrs BHS when again they had some home cooking resulting in BHS suspension. I would read too much into a first game loss and the fouls being so lopsided. Take away 17 fouls and 15 freethrows and there is a much different game.
With that said, it does show that Mandan doesn't have near the bench they had in the past. Only 3 points from their bench. They definetly don't have the fire power they had in the past. While Jamestown had significant help off the bench. They are much deeper than Mandan.
I was thinking along the same lines when I read the box score. Hard to know if it was home cooking or if you just had some refs who actually called fouls on Mandan's press and weren't just intimidated by the "MANDAN" mystique. I'm not sure I agree on the benches being much different though. In the Jamestown paper it said their main 3 players scored 53 of the 66 points. Those 3 main players are very good though - Morgan Dale is as good a player as anyone and she commands a lot of defensive attention.
I agree, Mandan press can add more fouls but 29 to only 12 is a little excessive. It's easy to increase your shooting percentage if you can get a foul called 29 times. I think it actually hurts at team when it's so lopside because you don't get to see what you need to work on. There won't be an easy whistle when you are playing BHS or Mandan in the WDA or at home. 23 of Jamestown's 66 points were freethrows. That's 35% of your score.
Where are you getting your box score....This was in the Jamestown sun..
Mandan — ShanLee Taken Alive 15, Ali Collins 14, Marlee Finley 17, Skylie Luger 2, Paige Jensen 6, Brittaney Zander 2. Totals: 21-55 FG, 8-14 FT, Three-pointers: (Finley 4, Taken Alive 3), 24 Rebounds (Finley 7), 11 assists (Finley 4), 20 Turnovers, 22 Fouls.
Jamestown — Beth McMillan 2, Jenny Schuchard 14, Morgan Dale 22, Amber Ramlo 14, Kara Wahl 7, Leah Jystad 4. Totals: 22-45 FG, 22-30 FT, Three-pointers: (Schuchard 2, Wahl 1), 29 Rebounds (Dale 11), 20 assists (Dale 5), 24 Turnovers, 13 Fouls.
22 Fouls is really not that many...only one over double bonus each half...Mandan is not as big so are going to foul more down low than block shots...Maybe Mandan needs to be more aggressive offensively to get more free throw attempts...Looks like they were content with taking the outside shot...Probably also contributes to the discrepency in shooting percentage. Quit making excuses and say good game Jamestown, better luck next time Mandan...next time keep your hands off!!
WOW, take a pill. It was in the Bismarck Tribune. LooK I'm not saying that Jamestown doesn't deserve to win. They have a very good team. I'm just saying that there is a lot of HOME COOKING when it comes to sports and I think it hurts a team in the long run. Remember BHS vrs Jamestown in Hockey. Fight broke out and there was suspensions. Remember BHS vrs Minot in soccer when BHS had 13 yellow/red cards to Minots 1 and the ref was a PARENT! What happened to these teams in the end! Its adults who are doing the cooking, not the kids. The Jamestown girls I sure played hard and well deserve their victory. Your missing the point.
CLASS A GIRLS BASKETBALL
JAMESTOWN 66, MANDAN 57
JAMESTOWN - Morgan Dale tossed in 21 points and Amber Ramlo and Jenny Schuchard added 17 and 14, respectively, as the Jamestown Blue Jays stunned five-time defending state champion Mandan 66-57 Tuesday night.
The Blue Jays, who led 30-23 at halftime, got it done with some sharp shooting from the floor (20 of 36) and the free throw line (23 of 29). Mandan was 21-for-59 from the field and 8-for-14 from the charity stripe.
Jamestown also held a 36-25 advantage on the boards.
Marlee Finley led the Braves with 17 points and seven rebounds.
MANDAN (57): Marlee Finley 17, ShanLee Taken Alive 15, Ali Collins 14, Paige Jensen 6, Brittaney Zander 1, Samantha Meyer 2, Skylei Luger 2. Totals 21-59 8-14 57.
JAMESTOWN (66): Morgan Dale 21, Amber Ramlo 17, Jenny Schuchard 14, Beth McMillan 2, Kara Wahl 8, Leah Jystad 4. Totals 20-36 23-29 66.
Halftime: Jamestown 30, Mandan 23.
3-pointers: Mandan 7 (Finley 4, Taken Alive 3), Jamestown 3 (Schuchard 2, Wahl 1). Fouls: Mandan 29, Jamestown 12. Fouled out: Mandan, Zander, Collins. Rebounds: Mandan 25 (Finley 7), Jamestown 36 (Dale 10). Turnovers: Mandan 23, Jamestown 31.
Records: Mandan 0-1 West Region; Jamestown 1-0.