Predictions on tonight's Mandan - Jamestown Game

[pbhoopsters]

As mostly a Class B observer I will be watching this game with interest. I know Jamestown has a very capable group of Juniors and Seniors. I know the Junior girls have played travel ball since about the fifth grade. Do they have what it takes to beat the Mandan machine?

[EDC]

Mandan is the favorite partly because they are Mandan and partly because they are a basketball factory. Jamestown is very good and capable of winning this game. Jamestown just needs to hang tough in the beginning to prove to themselves they can win. Probably everybody except Mandan supporters hope Jamestown wins to set the tone for the rest of the season and break Mandan’s spell. Go Jays!

[SDHoops]

Does anyone know what radio stations for either cities will be broadcasting the game?

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Does anyone know what radio stations for either cities will be broadcasting the game?

i think 93.3 fm and 1400 am will be covering the jamestown end of it...not too positive on the mandan side

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mandan 48, jamestown 46 with 5:10 left in the game

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51-51 with 3:13 remaining

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58-54 jamestown up with 1:28 left

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60-54 jamestown up with 52 seconds remaining

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66-57
jamestown wins

[Baller]

66-57
jamestown wins

Sweet....makes me happy

[EDC]

66-57
jamestown wins

Wow! Way to go Jamestown. Just how good are the Jays? Very!

[dgfsuperfan1]

66-57
jamestown wins

Wow! Way to go Jamestown. Just how good are the Jays? Very!

Congrates Bluejays.

[dgfsuperfan1]

I am looking forward to reading the details in the Jamestown Sun tomorrow.
Their online paper web address is http://www.jamestownsun.com/sports/

[pbhoopsters]

66-57
jamestown wins

Wow! Way to go Jamestown. Just how good are the Jays? Very!

Congrates Bluejays.[/quote

Good for Jamestown! Now can they beat Bismarck! We'll not the answer to that question on Jan. 26th!

[point/center]

wow. Napoleon wrestling loses to a ND team in a tourney and Mandan girls BB lose to a ND team...in the same week?

could this be the beginning of the end?

[vballfan06]

I really think people are reading too much into this. Huge win by Jamestown, definitely. But as I recall, Century knocked off Mandan early in the season a year ago. It's too early to make predictions that this isn't Mandan's year.

[Baller]

I really think people are reading too much into this. Huge win by Jamestown, definitely. But as I recall, Century knocked off Mandan early in the season a year ago. It's too early to make predictions that this isn't Mandan's year.

The difference between the two is that Century was toted as the team to knock off Mandan if someone was going to. People knew that Century had the capabilities of beating Mandan...

This win by Jamestown is going to give a lot of teams confidence that Mandan is very beatable. They do not have the strong inside presence they have had for the last 6-7 years with the Kielpinski's...this is a whole new Mandan look and with Standemo out, Mandan is relying heavily of Ali Collins and Finley...They havn't had to rely that heavily on a couple of players in a lot of years.

Defenses know that they have chance because they can shut down one or two players and Mandan may not have the weapons to blow people out this year.

[Deuce]

Congradulations to the Blue Jays. They'll beat a lot of teams.
I think the biggest difference in the game was Jamestown's shooting. 20-36 55%, 23-29 80%.

[bruins44]

I dont think this was an upset, Jamestown is very good, this is their dream team, after beating South in the state tournament last year they BELIEVE!! I remember watching this group of girls play travel ball, they would win most of the tournaments they entered when they were in junior high. Mandan is without one of their better players with a torn ACL and playing without any true post players for the first time in 6 years, they are not the dominant team they were the past few years. Mandan will be there in March you can bet on that but this win for Jamestown gives the other teams in the state some hope!

[pbhoopsters]

I dont think this was an upset, Jamestown is very good, this is their dream team, after beating South in the state tournament last year they BELIEVE!! I remember watching this group of girls play travel ball, they would win most of the tournaments they entered when they were in junior high. Mandan is without one of their better players with a torn ACL and playing without any true post players for the first time in 6 years, they are not the dominant team they were the past few years. Mandan will be there in March you can bet on that but this win for Jamestown gives the other teams in the state some hope!

I coached travel ball against these Jamestown players so I am know them well. I also know that they had a rivalry with the Bismarck girls in travel ball (Northland Financial - Coached by Chris Assel). Toward the end of that rivalry Jamestown was winning those games. It will be interesting to watch those two teams go at it the next two years.

[Eminence]

You have to wonder though. The foul count was 29 to 12 with Collins only being able to play about a 1/3 of the game. Might be some home cooking going on. I remember last year in Hockey, Jamestown vrs BHS when again they had some home cooking resulting in BHS suspension. I would read too much into a first game loss and the fouls being so lopsided. Take away 17 fouls and 15 freethrows and there is a much different game.

With that said, it does show that Mandan doesn't have near the bench they had in the past. Only 3 points from their bench. They definetly don't have the fire power they had in the past. While Jamestown had significant help off the bench. They are much deeper than Mandan.

[EastGuruWannabe]

You have to wonder though. The foul count was 29 to 12 with Collins only being able to play about a 1/3 of the game. Might be some home cooking going on. I remember last year in Hockey, Jamestown vrs BHS when again they had some home cooking resulting in BHS suspension. I would read too much into a first game loss and the fouls being so lopsided. Take away 17 fouls and 15 freethrows and there is a much different game.

With that said, it does show that Mandan doesn't have near the bench they had in the past. Only 3 points from their bench. They definetly don't have the fire power they had in the past. While Jamestown had significant help off the bench. They are much deeper than Mandan.

I was thinking along the same lines when I read the box score. Hard to know if it was home cooking or if you just had some refs who actually called fouls on Mandan's press and weren't just intimidated by the "MANDAN" mystique. I'm not sure I agree on the benches being much different though. In the Jamestown paper it said their main 3 players scored 53 of the 66 points. Those 3 main players are very good though - Morgan Dale is as good a player as anyone and she commands a lot of defensive attention.

[Eminence]

You have to wonder though. The foul count was 29 to 12 with Collins only being able to play about a 1/3 of the game. Might be some home cooking going on. I remember last year in Hockey, Jamestown vrs BHS when again they had some home cooking resulting in BHS suspension. I would read too much into a first game loss and the fouls being so lopsided. Take away 17 fouls and 15 freethrows and there is a much different game.

With that said, it does show that Mandan doesn't have near the bench they had in the past. Only 3 points from their bench. They definetly don't have the fire power they had in the past. While Jamestown had significant help off the bench. They are much deeper than Mandan.

I was thinking along the same lines when I read the box score. Hard to know if it was home cooking or if you just had some refs who actually called fouls on Mandan's press and weren't just intimidated by the "MANDAN" mystique. I'm not sure I agree on the benches being much different though. In the Jamestown paper it said their main 3 players scored 53 of the 66 points. Those 3 main players are very good though - Morgan Dale is as good a player as anyone and she commands a lot of defensive attention.

I agree, Mandan press can add more fouls but 29 to only 12 is a little excessive. It's easy to increase your shooting percentage if you can get a foul called 29 times. I think it actually hurts at team when it's so lopside because you don't get to see what you need to work on. There won't be an easy whistle when you are playing BHS or Mandan in the WDA or at home. 23 of Jamestown's 66 points were freethrows. That's 35% of your score.

[Baller]

You have to wonder though. The foul count was 29 to 12 with Collins only being able to play about a 1/3 of the game. Might be some home cooking going on. I remember last year in Hockey, Jamestown vrs BHS when again they had some home cooking resulting in BHS suspension. I would read too much into a first game loss and the fouls being so lopsided. Take away 17 fouls and 15 freethrows and there is a much different game.

With that said, it does show that Mandan doesn't have near the bench they had in the past. Only 3 points from their bench. They definetly don't have the fire power they had in the past. While Jamestown had significant help off the bench. They are much deeper than Mandan.

I was thinking along the same lines when I read the box score. Hard to know if it was home cooking or if you just had some refs who actually called fouls on Mandan's press and weren't just intimidated by the "MANDAN" mystique. I'm not sure I agree on the benches being much different though. In the Jamestown paper it said their main 3 players scored 53 of the 66 points. Those 3 main players are very good though - Morgan Dale is as good a player as anyone and she commands a lot of defensive attention.

I agree, Mandan press can add more fouls but 29 to only 12 is a little excessive. It's easy to increase your shooting percentage if you can get a foul called 29 times. I think it actually hurts at team when it's so lopside because you don't get to see what you need to work on. There won't be an easy whistle when you are playing BHS or Mandan in the WDA or at home. 23 of Jamestown's 66 points were freethrows. That's 35% of your score.

Where are you getting your box score....This was in the Jamestown sun..

Mandan — ShanLee Taken Alive 15, Ali Collins 14, Marlee Finley 17, Skylie Luger 2, Paige Jensen 6, Brittaney Zander 2. Totals: 21-55 FG, 8-14 FT, Three-pointers: (Finley 4, Taken Alive 3), 24 Rebounds (Finley 7), 11 assists (Finley 4), 20 Turnovers, 22 Fouls.

Jamestown — Beth McMillan 2, Jenny Schuchard 14, Morgan Dale 22, Amber Ramlo 14, Kara Wahl 7, Leah Jystad 4. Totals: 22-45 FG, 22-30 FT, Three-pointers: (Schuchard 2, Wahl 1), 29 Rebounds (Dale 11), 20 assists (Dale 5), 24 Turnovers, 13 Fouls.

22 Fouls is really not that many...only one over double bonus each half...Mandan is not as big so are going to foul more down low than block shots...Maybe Mandan needs to be more aggressive offensively to get more free throw attempts...Looks like they were content with taking the outside shot...Probably also contributes to the discrepency in shooting percentage. Quit making excuses and say good game Jamestown, better luck next time Mandan...next time keep your hands off!!

[Deuce]

I think eminence was using the Bismarck Tribune's

MANDAN (57): Marlee Finley 17, ShanLee Taken Alive 15, Ali Collins 14, Paige Jensen 6, Brittaney Zander 1, Samantha Meyer 2, Skylei Luger 2. Totals 21-59 8-14 57.

JAMESTOWN (66): Morgan Dale 21, Amber Ramlo 17, Jenny Schuchard 14, Beth McMillan 2, Kara Wahl 8, Leah Jystad 4. Totals 20-36 23-29 66.

Halftime: Jamestown 30, Mandan 23.

3-pointers: Mandan 7 (Finley 4, Taken Alive 3), Jamestown 3 (Schuchard 2, Wahl 1). Fouls: Mandan 29, Jamestown 12. Fouled out: Mandan, Zander, Collins. Rebounds: Mandan 25 (Finley 7), Jamestown 36 (Dale 10). Turnovers: Mandan 23, Jamestown 31.

Records: Mandan 0-1 West Region; Jamestown 1-0.

If you look at Jamestown's boxscore, their numbers don't really add up. The article said Hornung drew 5 charges and if Mandan only had 22 fouls then that leaves 17. If they shot 29 free throws then that would mean 15 of the 17 had to be shooting fouls. Not realistic considering it takes 6 to get to the bonus.

I only saw the first half of the game, but I'd bet Mandan had at least 16 the first half alone.