Mandan vs. GF Red River

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Postby Wildcat » Thu Mar 08, 2007 1:38 pm

Mandan is all over Red River. Braves are up 58-18 after the first half. Any bets on Amundson running it up past 100?

Red River has 18 turnovers.
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Postby Baller » Thu Mar 08, 2007 1:40 pm

I will bet he does....
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Postby Wildcat » Thu Mar 08, 2007 1:55 pm

Anyone have a state tourney program? Whatever the record for points is in a game, I'm sure he'll try to break it. That's what he did against Beulah in 1999 at the West Region tourney, beating Beulah like 101-29.
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Postby Baller » Thu Mar 08, 2007 2:11 pm

80 points by one team is the record.  I guess they won't have a problem breaking that.
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Postby bballfan1 » Thu Mar 08, 2007 7:44 pm

Final was like 95-30...OUCH.   I would say not necessary, but its mandan what do you expect from Amundson...they're just in another league.  I wonder who Amundson will recruit to fill Kelpinski Kelsh and Krafts spots for next year.;)
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Postby Deuce » Thu Mar 08, 2007 7:56 pm

Probably the other 12 girls he had on the bench.   Problem with other teams is they make excuses and not results.
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Postby DeuceTrey » Thu Mar 08, 2007 7:58 pm

bballfan1 wrote:Final was like 95-30...OUCH.   I would say not necessary, but its mandan what do you expect from Amundson...they're just in another league.  I wonder who Amundson will recruit to fill Kelpinski Kelsh and Krafts spots for next year.;)

so does Mandan winning by this much put them in the same position DL was in after the VC game, or is it ok because it is Mandan and they have won 4 straight championships? not knocking on Mandan, because they are a good team, but just throwing it out there. If they were a team like DL who usually struggles but has a very good team this year, would there be the same problem? or have we just decided that they are just so good that they cant help but blow a team out of the water. and why is it ok for Mandans coach to run up the score, but not DLs? this just doesnt add up.
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Postby Deuce » Thu Mar 08, 2007 8:06 pm

If you make it to state and you can't keep it reasonable, I don' t think you can blame Mandan, especially since they played 11 girls the first half.
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Postby Deuce » Thu Mar 08, 2007 8:07 pm

Its not like they were playing VC or something who hasn't won a class A game in ? years.
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Postby Carl08 » Thu Mar 08, 2007 8:10 pm

DeuceTrey wrote:
bballfan1 wrote:Final was like 95-30...OUCH.   I would say not necessary, but its mandan what do you expect from Amundson...they're just in another league.  I wonder who Amundson will recruit to fill Kelpinski Kelsh and Krafts spots for next year.;)

so does Mandan winning by this much put them in the same position DL was in after the VC game, or is it ok because it is Mandan and they have won 4 straight championships? not knocking on Mandan, because they are a good team, but just throwing it out there. If they were a team like DL who usually struggles but has a very good team this year, would there be the same problem? or have we just decided that they are just so good that they cant help but blow a team out of the water. and why is it ok for Mandans coach to run up the score, but not DLs? this just doesnt add up.

Agreed.  Amundson should get the same crap DL's coach got but i think everyone is just so used to seeing Mandan go psycho and run up the score.  It was just a little shocking to everyone that DL did it and it kindof threw some people off.  Everyone deals with that crap when they go up agianst Mandan, DL didn;t need to do it too but it over and from what i hear DL heard about it for a while and it prob wont happen again...but what do i know?:drool:
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Postby DeuceTrey » Thu Mar 08, 2007 8:11 pm

Deuce wrote:If you make it to state and you can't keep it reasonable, I don' t think you can blame Mandan, especially since they played 11 girls the first half.

so your saying as long as you are playing a "respectable" opponent that it is ok to run up the score? and that if you make it to state, it gives you a free pass because you are a good team?
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Postby Deuce » Thu Mar 08, 2007 8:12 pm

What are you suppose to do at state?  Wait for a close game to give your starters some time? 
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Postby Carl08 » Thu Mar 08, 2007 8:13 pm

Deuce wrote:What are you suppose to do at state?  Wait for a close game to give your starters some time? 

Maybe they should just schedule NDSU, UND and UMary for next year...ha!
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Postby Deuce » Thu Mar 08, 2007 8:14 pm

Carl08 wrote:
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bballfan1 wrote:Final was like 95-30...OUCH.   I would say not necessary, but its mandan what do you expect from Amundson...they're just in another league.  I wonder who Amundson will recruit to fill Kelpinski Kelsh and Krafts spots for next year.;)

so does Mandan winning by this much put them in the same position DL was in after the VC game, or is it ok because it is Mandan and they have won 4 straight championships? not knocking on Mandan, because they are a good team, but just throwing it out there. If they were a team like DL who usually struggles but has a very good team this year, would there be the same problem? or have we just decided that they are just so good that they cant help but blow a team out of the water. and why is it ok for Mandans coach to run up the score, but not DLs? this just doesnt add up.

Agreed.  Amundson should get the same crap DL's coach got but i think everyone is just so used to seeing Mandan go psycho and run up the score.  It was just a little shocking to everyone that DL did it and it kindof threw some people off.  Everyone deals with that crap when they go up agianst Mandan, DL didn;t need to do it too but it over and from what i hear DL heard about it for a while and it prob wont happen again...but what do i know?:drool:

Its a little different against a state qualifier than against a team that lost to 3 class b teams this year.... But I defended DL because in girls basketball blowouts happen.
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Postby Carl08 » Thu Mar 08, 2007 8:18 pm

Deuce wrote:
Carl08 wrote:
DeuceTrey wrote:
bballfan1 wrote:Final was like 95-30...OUCH.   I would say not necessary, but its mandan what do you expect from Amundson...they're just in another league.  I wonder who Amundson will recruit to fill Kelpinski Kelsh and Krafts spots for next year.;)

so does Mandan winning by this much put them in the same position DL was in after the VC game, or is it ok because it is Mandan and they have won 4 straight championships? not knocking on Mandan, because they are a good team, but just throwing it out there. If they were a team like DL who usually struggles but has a very good team this year, would there be the same problem? or have we just decided that they are just so good that they cant help but blow a team out of the water. and why is it ok for Mandans coach to run up the score, but not DLs? this just doesnt add up.

Agreed.  Amundson should get the same crap DL's coach got but i think everyone is just so used to seeing Mandan go psycho and run up the score.  It was just a little shocking to everyone that DL did it and it kindof threw some people off.  Everyone deals with that crap when they go up agianst Mandan, DL didn;t need to do it too but it over and from what i hear DL heard about it for a while and it prob wont happen again...but what do i know?:drool:

Its a little different against a state qualifier than against a team that lost to 3 class b teams this year.... But I defended DL because in girls basketball blowouts happen.

they do...it's just that from what i hear (totally hearsay so you can correct me if im wrong) the way DL went about that game ...pressing...is what made it kinda bad...and yes, it was against VC which made some VC parents who watched their kids get pounded all year a little upset
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Postby Saucesauer » Thu Mar 08, 2007 9:34 pm

It is a friggin game it is not up to the parents to decide you play sports for yourself and the 10-20 people in your locker room depending on the sport not your fan section and definatly not the other teams parents this is why i feel the world is getting soft and cant accept critisim because in the real world there is no its ok you tried or you cant get the promotion you are too good you have to go out there and leave no doubt in anyones mind that you are the best and leave it at that 
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Postby threeball » Thu Mar 08, 2007 10:35 pm

bballfan1 wrote:Final was like 95-30...OUCH.   I would say not necessary, but its mandan what do you expect from Amundson...they're just in another league.  I wonder who Amundson will recruit to fill Kelpinski Kelsh and Krafts spots for next year.;)

smart comment bballfan1 considering mandan has had 3 new girls move to mandan in the past 3 years i think it would be pretty logical to assume that mandan will have 2-3 new players next season.
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Postby Wild Wolves » Fri Mar 09, 2007 3:28 am

Logical would be that one more girl moved to Mandan.  Your post would be illogical X3.

Based on the population of ND and the fact that what population we do have is migrating to the larger cities it shouldn't surprise anyone if Dickinson Trinity, Mandan and Shanely get new players.  In terms of girls sports.

DT because they recruit kids to their school and with their future enrollment difficulties they will need students not just BB players.

Mandan because of what they do in the off-season dozens of girls come into contact with Mandan coaches and players so connections are being made (friendships) additionally the success doesn't hurt one bit.

Shanely see DT.

So continuing to complain about blowouts and making assertions about recruiting only keeps you from doing what Sauce was getting at, work hard be better than the competition.
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Postby roughrider125 » Fri Mar 09, 2007 5:06 am

Tiger Pride wrote:Logical would be that one more girl moved to Mandan.  Your post would be illogical X3.

Based on the population of ND and the fact that what population we do have is migrating to the larger cities it shouldn't surprise anyone if Dickinson Trinity, Mandan and Shanely get new players.  In terms of girls sports.

DT because they recruit kids to their school and with their future enrollment difficulties they will need students not just BB players.

Mandan because of what they do in the off-season dozens of girls come into contact with Mandan coaches and players so connections are being made (friendships) additionally the success doesn't hurt one bit.

Shanely see DT.

So continuing to complain about blowouts and making assertions about recruiting only keeps you from doing what Sauce was getting at, work hard be better than the competition.

I can't say anything about DT but for the last time...Shanley doesn't recruit!!!!
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Postby baseball4 » Fri Mar 09, 2007 5:41 am

The paper says that Mandan had 15 girls that logged 5 minutes or more.....I wouldn't exactly call that trying to run up the score.  It's not their fault that their half-court defense is just as good as their full court...and that their 8-15 girls can play with anybody in the state just as well as any other team....the fact is that Mandan put their bench in and took the press off and they still couldn't be stopped and continued to stop Red River on defense....What would people like to see them do?  Go down and fire up a long range bomb everytime or just say "here's a free pass to the lane, go ahead and make a layup so we dont look so bad"...no!...that isn't making those bench players any better, they come in (just as every other teams bench players do) and play their hearts out cus its their chance to shine, and the Mandan girls bench does that
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<span class="texteditorenhanced">[user=2474]roughrider125[/user] wrote:
Tiger Pride wrote:Logical would be that one more girl moved to Mandan.  Your post would be illogical X3.

Based on the population of ND and the fact that what population we do have is migrating to the larger cities it shouldn't surprise anyone if Dickinson Trinity, Mandan and Shanely get new players.  In terms of girls sports.

DT because they recruit kids to their school and with their future enrollment difficulties they will need students not just BB players.

Mandan because of what they do in the off-season dozens of girls come into contact with Mandan coaches and players so connections are being made (friendships) additionally the success doesn't hurt one bit.

Shanely see DT.

So continuing to complain about blowouts and making assertions about recruiting only keeps you from doing what Sauce was getting at, work hard be better than the competition.

I can't say anything about DT but for the last time...Shanley doesn't recruit!!!!
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TIger pride you are so ignorant if you think Shanley recruits.
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Postby sioux75 » Fri Mar 09, 2007 6:38 am

Don't criticise the Mandan girls.  They shot 76.7 % from the field in the first half on the way to a 58-18 half time lead.  They could have easily scored over 100 pts but I'm glad they didn't.  Alot of girls got to play a number of minutes.  11 different girls in the first half, and in the second the the second and third teams were platooned in.  The Mandan bench scored 27 points, almost outscoring Red River by themselves, and one third string player Luger had 8 points.

I don't have the exact minutes each girl played but if the starters logged in more than 20 minutes I would be surprised.  The girls have worked hard over the years and through the summers and during practice.  They have earned the right to play meaningful minutes in the state tournament and play enough to give them the chance to make all-tournament.  If sother teams want to play up to that level they need to put in the time in the offseason.  Championships are won in the off season.   
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Postby Carl08 » Fri Mar 09, 2007 7:22 am

sioux75 wrote:Don't criticise the Mandan girls.  They shot 76.7 % from the field in the first half on the way to a 58-18 half time lead.  They could have easily scored over 100 pts but I'm glad they didn't.  Alot of girls got to play a number of minutes.  11 different girls in the first half, and in the second the the second and third teams were platooned in.  The Mandan bench scored 27 points, almost outscoring Red River by themselves, and one third string player Luger had 8 points.

I don't have the exact minutes each girl played but if the starters logged in more than 20 minutes I would be surprised.  The girls have worked hard over the years and through the summers and during practice.  They have earned the right to play meaningful minutes in the state tournament and play enough to give them the chance to make all-tournament.  If sother teams want to play up to that level they need to put in the time in the offseason.  Championships are won in the off season.   

i agree with sioux, i saw the game and it was ugly just because Mandan was that good not because they were trying to run up the score...DL kept the pressure on longer than they should have against VC from what i hear, but it was one game and thats over with...but don't think mandan doesn't ever try to run up the score because i do recall against a very poor shanley team last year they kept their starters in the whole game just trying to break 100 which was very unsportsmanlike but noone said anything cause it's Amundson and we've learned to expect it from Mandan
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Postby brownbomber » Fri Mar 09, 2007 8:46 am

Tiger Pride wrote:Logical would be that one more girl moved to Mandan.  Your post would be illogical X3.

Based on the population of ND and the fact that what population we do have is migrating to the larger cities it shouldn't surprise anyone if Dickinson Trinity, Mandan and Shanely get new players.  In terms of girls sports.

DT because they recruit kids to their school and with their future enrollment difficulties they will need students not just BB players.

Mandan because of what they do in the off-season dozens of girls come into contact with Mandan coaches and players so connections are being made (friendships) additionally the success doesn't hurt one bit.

Shanely see DT.

So continuing to complain about blowouts and making assertions about recruiting only keeps you from doing what Sauce was getting at, work hard be better than the competition.

im pretty sure trinity doesnt recruit
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Postby Wild Wolves » Fri Mar 09, 2007 10:01 am

If you don't think private schools recruit you are placing your head in a deep dark hole and this time I am not referring to ice fishing.

Private schools have to recruit in order to stay in existence.

I don't mean they recruit athletes they recruit students.  If those schools aren't recruiting they need to get on the ball.  That is the only way private schools stay open.  It starts in the local churches and expands from that point.

Colleges, all of them recruit, not only to athletic programs but to the school in general.  That is how they make money in order to stay open.  Same goes for private schools at any level.

 
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