Wildcat wrote:I'll take...
1. Bismarck High - too much returning to go against them.
2. Mandan - It'll be fun to watch Amundsen out there coaching rather than sitting on the bench during 50 point blowouts. Collins and Finley will hit a lot of 3s and I fully expect the West to be a tight race next year with Mandan, BHS splitting.
3. Jamestown - With Schuchard, Ramlo and Dale, back, they could be at the top of this list if everything goes right, though it might take some excellent guard play to make that happen.
4. Century - they always find something and they have good shooters coming back, I believe.
5. Dickinson - They're not going to be as bad as everyone thinks. Someone on here said they have a below average bench. Well, they return a couple of 5-11 girls and six-footer, all off the bench and all of which saw playing time at the end of the season. They won't have a star player which will hurt them, but they will, overall, be bigger next year.
6. Minot - They have the Feland girl coming back and she has all-state potential. They have Leutzen, but I don't see them getting as far because they lose too much.
7. Belcourt - Davis is good, but Knife is going to Bottineau sounds like so that's why they're down on this list.
8. St. Mary's
9. Williston
soccer09 wrote:shanley girls will be tough again with great inside presence, need to find guards to make up for seniors lost though..... honestly in East I don't see much of a challenge. . The East/West is hard to predict simply because of no crossover...
cdub1 wrote:just a bb fan wrote:bawlhogg701 wrote:Mandans girls have Amundson for a coach so they'll be #1 and if Mandans girls had BHS's coach they'd still be #1? I think it makes sense...lol
wrong! :) If mandan girls had bhs's coach they wouldn't be #1. do you mean wda or state?
if mandan girls had the bhs coach they wouldnt be as good as they are i give amundson alot of credit for his great coaching
King James wrote:cdub1 wrote:just a bb fan wrote:bawlhogg701 wrote:Mandans girls have Amundson for a coach so they'll be #1 and if Mandans girls had BHS's coach they'd still be #1? I think it makes sense...lol
wrong! :) If mandan girls had bhs's coach they wouldn't be #1. do you mean wda or state?
if mandan girls had the bhs coach they wouldnt be as good as they are i give amundson alot of credit for his great coaching
i totally agree.. amundson should have been coach of the year regardless of the talent he had.. he'll find a way and adjust to being more of a perimeter team bismarck will be good but i cant see them beating mandan
Baller wrote:I completely disagree. Steve Meier always has a quality squad whether or not he has the players. Maybe that is why he got coach of the year!! I would much rather play for Meier than Amundson.
just a bb fan wrote:Baller wrote:I completely disagree. Steve Meier always has a quality squad whether or not he has the players. Maybe that is why he got coach of the year!! I would much rather play for Meier than Amundson.
i would rather not play for either of them for different reasons. it was talked about earlier the selection of all state teams and all star teams being political, is coach of the year political too?
Baller wrote:just a bb fan wrote:Baller wrote:I completely disagree. Steve Meier always has a quality squad whether or not he has the players. Maybe that is why he got coach of the year!! I would much rather play for Meier than Amundson.
i would rather not play for either of them for different reasons. it was talked about earlier the selection of all state teams and all star teams being political, is coach of the year political too?
chosen by your peers....not sure how it can be all that political
just a bb fan wrote:bbfollower wrote:Can't say I agree with you there, baller, regarding Amundson versus Meier.
for his ability as a coach or rather play for amundson than meier?
Baller wrote:I think that anytime you have people picking awards it is subjective. I wish there was a way to do it objectively, but some people think that different things make a good player. I know that all-state is selected by the media. Is it political?? I think that some people get on because of what they have done in the past and not just on this season. I also think that some players get more attention than others. As far as Lion's All-Star, the coaches put up the players they want considered and then Amundson and Stuberg get to pick their team. I think this should be picked by all the coaches the same way that All Conference is chosen, but I guess we can't have a perfect system.
just a bb fan wrote:Baller wrote:I think that anytime you have people picking awards it is subjective. I wish there was a way to do it objectively, but some people think that different things make a good player. I know that all-state is selected by the media. Is it political?? I think that some people get on because of what they have done in the past and not just on this season. I also think that some players get more attention than others. As far as Lion's All-Star, the coaches put up the players they want considered and then Amundson and Stuberg get to pick their team. I think this should be picked by all the coaches the same way that All Conference is chosen, but I guess we can't have a perfect system.
i guess whether you think something is political depends on your definition. are there guidelines to follow when selecting those awards? for example, for the all-state, is it suggested the selectors go by this season's showing and not past years performances? i agree completely with you that some players get more attention than others. are those that vote from the media equally represented across the state? east vs west? for the all star selections, is there a limit on how many the coaches can put up? i would think they wouldn't put up those that didn't deserve it, because that could be embarrassing to them, but like you said, people think different things make a good player. can amundson and stuberg select someone even if their coach didn't pick them?
just a bb fan wrote:bbfollower wrote:Can't say I agree with you there, baller, regarding Amundson versus Meier.
for his ability as a coach or rather play for amundson than meier?
Baller wrote:just a bb fan wrote:Baller wrote:I think that anytime you have people picking awards it is subjective. I wish there was a way to do it objectively, but some people think that different things make a good player. I know that all-state is selected by the media. Is it political?? I think that some people get on because of what they have done in the past and not just on this season. I also think that some players get more attention than others. As far as Lion's All-Star, the coaches put up the players they want considered and then Amundson and Stuberg get to pick their team. I think this should be picked by all the coaches the same way that All Conference is chosen, but I guess we can't have a perfect system.
i guess whether you think something is political depends on your definition. are there guidelines to follow when selecting those awards? for example, for the all-state, is it suggested the selectors go by this season's showing and not past years performances? i agree completely with you that some players get more attention than others. are those that vote from the media equally represented across the state? east vs west? for the all star selections, is there a limit on how many the coaches can put up? i would think they wouldn't put up those that didn't deserve it, because that could be embarrassing to them, but like you said, people think different things make a good player. can amundson and stuberg select someone even if their coach didn't pick them?
I don't think there is a limit, but I think that most coaches are pretty realistic knowing that there are only 6 +1 alternate chosen from each region. I doubt that Stuberg and Amundson would need to choose someone not put by the coaches and I know that all the coaches get a chance to talk about it at the coaches' meeting during the State tourny. I do know that some coaches put up players that they know may not make the team just to let that player know that they were at least in the consideration.
Baller wrote:just a bb fan wrote:bbfollower wrote:Can't say I agree with you there, baller, regarding Amundson versus Meier.
for his ability as a coach or rather play for amundson than meier?
I am not going to lie....I think that Amundson is a good coach and his ability to build a program is unprecedented. As far as just pulling some players together and coaching them to success, I would go with Meier. I would much rather PLAY for Meier. I think he is a stand up guy and cares about more than just winning.
just a bb fan wrote:Baller wrote:just a bb fan wrote:bbfollower wrote:Can't say I agree with you there, baller, regarding Amundson versus Meier.
for his ability as a coach or rather play for amundson than meier?
I am not going to lie....I think that Amundson is a good coach and his ability to build a program is unprecedented. As far as just pulling some players together and coaching them to success, I would go with Meier. I would much rather PLAY for Meier. I think he is a stand up guy and cares about more than just winning.
i understand what you're saying, but disagree with you in that meier can pull some players together and coach them to success. if i pulled 8 girls off the street and none of them knew the game and i had to choose between amundson and meier to teach them, my choice would be amundson 10 out of 10 times. i'm not disputing the fact that meier might be a stand up guy, and i'll admit amundson does seem to be a cold person, but i think amundson would be much better in that situation. that brings up an interesting question -- with that same scenario, who would you other people choose as a coach?
just a bb fan wrote:Baller wrote:just a bb fan wrote:bbfollower wrote:Can't say I agree with you there, baller, regarding Amundson versus Meier.
for his ability as a coach or rather play for amundson than meier?
I am not going to lie....I think that Amundson is a good coach and his ability to build a program is unprecedented. As far as just pulling some players together and coaching them to success, I would go with Meier. I would much rather PLAY for Meier. I think he is a stand up guy and cares about more than just winning.
i understand what you're saying, but disagree with you in that meier can pull some players together and coach them to success. if i pulled 8 girls off the street and none of them knew the game and i had to choose between amundson and meier to teach them, my choice would be amundson 10 out of 10 times. i'm not disputing the fact that meier might be a stand up guy, and i'll admit amundson does seem to be a cold person, but i think amundson would be much better in that situation. that brings up an interesting question -- with that same scenario, who would you other people choose as a coach?
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