balla45 wrote:You're not very intelligent. I would love to go more in depth with this but as time goes on I realize that you are not smart enough for me to argue with.
This may have been the most accurate statement of 2010
balla45 wrote:You're not very intelligent. I would love to go more in depth with this but as time goes on I realize that you are not smart enough for me to argue with.
northdakotamom wrote:Don't know why Mark Wald brings up Mandan girls in this posting as I thought this was about BOYS basketball. This "crap" (recruiting, etc.)with Bismarck High will not stop until Miller retires and why should he when he gets all this attention and glory with his cheating ways. It surprises me that his players can respect him knowing all that goes on. I have heard a rumor that some of his players will not be returning to his team next year. Maybe some of the players are finally wiseing up to Miller's antics! It was fun to read the posts from years back showing that he got an apartment for Archembault so he could play for BHS. I remember when that happened so Miller has cheated WDA and the state for many years and will continue as long as he can get by with it. If I were Miller I couldn't sleep at night knowing the things I had done for attention.
oldcoach2 wrote:I dont see how it can be stopped, the aspect of someone moving to town to play a given sport and they live in that given town and attend that given school. If parents are willing to do this they can. Sounds crazy but it does happen. I know there are some rules about tranfering and a time frame that must be met before one can play a given sport @ the varsity level I thinks its 180 days, not sure. Basically you cannt decide in Oct to move to a diiferent school to play boys basktball in Nov. It has to be known by the end of the previous school year.
As far Coach Miller goes I have heard from people that know him, he does not care what the rest of the world thinks of him plain and simple, to include the rest of the coaches in the state.
I have also heard of a number of pine polishers from this years BHS team will not be back because of treatment from the system.
internal recuiting
The school distrct will not address this as the board has acted on this couple of years ago and put in the current internal tranfer "rules" (All tranfer request go though the Asst Principal at either BHS or CHS and any reason is a good one)
The problem is current and it looks like future school board members want THEIR kids to attend BHS and they live in the CHS area so action from this group will not be seen
Until outside forces , outside coaches, NDHSAA, ETC, push the issue nothing will be done
King James wrote:First of all some of you are haters because miller wins. Thats fine. A lot of people hate duke because they win. but i have a few questions for you
If BHS loses at state will people still be making a big deal about this?Is "recruiting" illegal in ND high school basketball? (I honestly do not know)
Was miller winning championships before this year and when all this recruting stuff came up? Yes. Most successful program this decade.
If Miller actually did recruit and got away with it (I'm not saying he did recruit) why wouldn't more coaches do it? Finley was going to leave Parshall regardless. Same with Caley and New Town. Jalen came here and his family decided between BHS and Mandan. They visited both schools I believe. And the rumor is Jalen saw the championship trophys in the hallway and thats how BHS won him over. Caley by the way was not recruited. I have talked to him about this.
balla45 wrote:Yes. People would still care, just not as many.
Yes. Still illegal.
Somewhat. This recruiting stuff came up way before we were in high school.
Other coaches don't do it because they want the respect of their peers.
powercat wrote:First off i have to highly doubt the credibility of some of these accusations. If Miller actually did buy a player an apartment he would not be coaching anymore. I doubt that people on ndpreps know all the "Down Low" facts about these things. I'm sure administrators and officials have looked into these things and they would have been addressed. Also if an entire family moves it is more than likely not just based off of athletics. I do find it odd that a strong group of athletes has come to Bismarck in the last few years. However basketball is not the only sport recieving these athletes.
And if it was just as easy as recruiting, then according to most people's logic bismarck would win state every year. During the state tournament they did a profile on Finley and he put in a lot of time AFTER he got to bhs. So he became a better player at bhs and that has nothing to do with recruiting players.
I feel that this is only a problem because they won. It wasnt a problem last year when mandan won. Im sure that if Finley came to mandan there would be some huge backstory about how mandan stumbled upon a gem. But since he went to bismarck there must be foul play. I dont get it
King James wrote:So if a mod says something it must be credible? That sounds dumb that Miller would by him any player an apartment. A physical education teacher/coach is going to be paying bills in his own house plus another apartment? Highly doubtful.
powercat wrote:First off i have to highly doubt the credibility of some of these accusations. If Miller actually did buy a player an apartment he would not be coaching anymore. I doubt that people on ndpreps know all the "Down Low" facts about these things. I'm sure administrators and officials have looked into these things and they would have been addressed. Also if an entire family moves it is more than likely not just based off of athletics. I do find it odd that a strong group of athletes has come to Bismarck in the last few years. However basketball is not the only sport recieving these athletes.
And if it was just as easy as recruiting, then according to most people's logic bismarck would win state every year. During the state tournament they did a profile on Finley and he put in a lot of time AFTER he got to bhs. So he became a better player at bhs and that has nothing to do with recruiting players.
I feel that this is only a problem because they won. It wasnt a problem last year when mandan won. Im sure that if Finley came to mandan there would be some huge backstory about how mandan stumbled upon a gem. But since he went to bismarck there must be foul play. I dont get it
InsideMan wrote:Nobody can deny that recruiting too place because there is multiple sources, including myself that has witnessed it.
BHS does not win the title this year with out Finley. Nobody can argue against that. I feel bad for Horner and the Braves because they weren't in a fair fight.
None of miller's peers respect him as a man because of his childish and wreckless actions and the different set of rules that he likes to play by. Ill take a seperate insident from this year other than the recruiting - the insident between him and preston tescher this year at st. mary's. He thought that preston was playing too physical at the end of the half so he took it upon himself to get in his preston's face and tell him, in so many words, to go down to the locker room where he belongs. If another coach would have gotten in, say, jalen finley's face it would have been a big deal and he would have blown up.
I respect the winning because nobody can deny it - he runs a very successful program. The means are anything but honorable but that is his choice. The only question that I have left is what are the exact rules regarding recruiting and contact with other school's players?
The Schwab wrote:Miller got in the face of a player from another team?
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