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Whats wrong with Souths ADMINISTRATION

Postby sportsguruguy » Thu Jan 28, 2010 11:37 pm

I have always wondered why fargo souths student athletes are almost non existent at there sporting functions. Well I know why now. I was at a varsity boys basketball game , south against devils lake.There was a below average student crowd when compared to other schools in the EDC. I saw and heard a young man say "that was an ugly shot " when a firebird missed a free throw. The principle and athletic director kicked this young man out of the game. After that incident the student body stood hardly cheered afraid of the reprocussions. Give me break!! Has the administration ever been to a game other than a south game? Well I have! It is pathetic compared to what other schools get for student body. Reason they do IMO, other schools let there student body enjoy themselves and CHEER!! Isnt that why you have home court advantage? I recently went to a North vs. South girls and boys game, it was at North. The student body was huge! At the girls game they were chanting at every free throw South took, plus saying the team was overrated! They were very loud! That is called home court advantage! Not at south you get into trouble if you open your mouth and cheer,so why would a student support there athletes if they get yelled at for every little thing. I could type numerous pages on other schools chants and how big there student crowds are, but i'm not going too. Bottom line is South Adminstration needs to let these young people be kids and have some fun as long as it is in good taste.Coaches from South you just as well not play any home games because you dont have the student body there to cheer your sqad on!

I have a heard in conversation from students that go to south, and I am told that in between classes how students sit in the hallways and will makeout with each other. Nothing is said to these kids, Why? Reason! Administration could care less! There is no authority figure anywhere around in between classes! I guess what i am trying to say is south administration you have far more problems in that school than students being loud and cheering for the team they love! Let them be kids and support there teams like every other school in the state!!
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Postby roundem6 » Thu Jan 28, 2010 11:41 pm

Couldnt agree more. North's principals and AD will occassionaly say something to the kids, but most of the time they allow them to have fun.
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Postby bruins44 » Fri Jan 29, 2010 1:02 pm

I totally agree with sportsguru! I was at the North South game at North and the student from North were very loud and yelling things at the South players and coaches, I didnt see any North administrator telling them to stop! If the yelling gets personal then YES it should stop but let the students have fun, You are right about home court advantage, South has none when the students are not allowed to be fans!
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Postby FSHBruins10 » Sat Jan 30, 2010 2:24 am

I could not agree more with what has been said!! coming from a south student, the administration is HORRIBLE when it comes to sporting events. I said to a player on the moorhead hockey team that they sucked and i got lectured and said there is a better way to say that...he can handle it if i tell him he not cool!! The Fargo South AD is the head of it all and has single handedly created less bruin spirit because we can't express it how we want to express it. completely pathetic!!
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Postby HockeyHigh » Sat Jan 30, 2010 1:38 pm

Although I do believe there has to be some regulation of student sections (cases that are above and beyond obscene) where the student sections get out of control, it is the AD's job to allow the students to be students. Saying someone not cool, is that really going to harm them emotionally for a long time? No. However, if the student section is cussing, yelling slurs and throwing stuff on the court that's a different story. However, by High School these kids know what they're getting themselves into if they do things like that. It is the job of the AD to promote school spirit and to be honest, the push for 'clean fun' isn't going to work at all. If the kids aren't allowed to let loose, they will not have fun. Considering South is a public school (and about to lose a lot of its population), I think there will be a lot of changes in the near future as its class makeup diversifies. Unfortunately, the good school spirit (such a players following their team around, have you ever seen White Bear Lake in hockey? They had a larger student section than South did last year at home. Just so you know, that's a four hour drive and they had at least 50-60+ students). Souths AD will be facing a lot less opportunity in the future to have these high quality teams, and they aren't handling it correctly. I agree North is doing a pretty good job at it.

I think the best example for how bad it has been for South lately, you can look at their hockey games. They have a brand new rink and hardly have any students at them. When they played against Moorhead this year (they even won) they couldn't have had more than 30 students at the game in their student section, whereas Moorhead at least filled a row or two, given a student population that is half of South's. That's absurd. I already commented on the WBL game from the year before, and even the Moorhead game was pretty sparse back at the UP too. And if you look at that last years team, they were undefeated for half the year, yet their student section never got bigger. As an AD, you can't force students to go to the games but you can promote their activity with events, busing, leniency and promotions. When you have a team that is as good as South puts up in at least 2-3 sports a year, and you can't fill the stands, something is wrong.

Mind you I'm not trying to bash South's administration, they do a great job and are one of the best opportunities for both athletics and academics in North Dakota. However, in support of whatever parent(s)/student(s) posted in this, they can definitely improve a large amount.
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Re: Whats wrong with Souths ADMINISTRATION

Postby hoops4lyf40 » Mon Feb 01, 2010 9:53 am

going to a south sporting event has become just plain boring. worrying about what the administration will do if you chant something is just annoying. i look at our student section for home games and i'm not surprised by how few fans we have. students are not allowed to have fun at games anymore. we are in high school, we know what is appropriate and what isn't, and we know the consequences for what isn't appropriate.
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Postby ballin304life » Tue Feb 02, 2010 10:56 am

Completely agree with this post 100%. South principals and AD don't let students say anything. If you yell come on ref! You get a warning next time you're thrown out. It's absolutely ridiculous.
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Postby NDSportsFan » Tue Feb 02, 2010 4:40 pm

Haven't there been instances in the past that have made them crack down on this? I thought something even made the news between them and West Fargo? Maybe they are trying to prevent that from happening again? I don't know, I just remember some people freaking out a few years ago, it was really bad publicity.
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Postby sportsguruguy » Tue Feb 02, 2010 5:52 pm

NDSportsFan wrote:Haven't there been instances in the past that have made them crack down on this? I thought something even made the news between them and West Fargo? Maybe they are trying to prevent that from happening again? I don't know, I just remember some people freaking out a few years ago, it was really bad publicity.



That could be possible! I have been around going on my fourth year watching bruins athletics, so it must of happened before that , or I didn't hear about it. Regardless, I don't believe that the administration does a good enough job to promote it's kids to go cheer for the athletes! It's amazing when you are the guest on the score board, how distracting it is to compete at a high level. When a good crowd is there cheering against you! For the amount of people that go to FSH you would think their stands would have a good crowd. They don't, so what is the problem? It's to bad that FSH students can't experience what real school spirit is!!
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Re: Whats wrong with Souths ADMINISTRATION

Postby United012 » Sat Feb 06, 2010 4:08 pm

As one of the South students that sit in that small group of the cheering section, i can say that this is 100% true. the hockey games are much more lenient, however. But it started at that incident at the basketball game, which really detracted from the amount of people showing up. But another reason for the unusual amount of south students going to games it the Davies switch. When i was a freshman and sophmore, i went to a few games and saw a ton of students. but as a senior now, i notice the only students that go now are upperclassman that will graduate from south (juniors and seniors). If anyone was at the South vs Shanley game last night, you would've seen what a "true" south cheering section was. Almost all the students wore the Shanley school uniform and a few went as far as wearing a nun and priest outfit. So the South AD are getting better, but they always came by the section as a reminder to keep it clean. But there were at least 3 rows of students filled, which is what every game should be. just too bad south couldn't win though with all the support
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Postby grlsbballfan » Sat Feb 06, 2010 9:53 pm

United012 wrote:As one of the South students that sit in that small group of the cheering section, i can say that this is 100% true. the hockey games are much more lenient, however. But it started at that incident at the basketball game, which really detracted from the amount of people showing up. But another reason for the unusual amount of south students going to games it the Davies switch. When i was a freshman and sophmore, i went to a few games and saw a ton of students. but as a senior now, i notice the only students that go now are upperclassman that will graduate from south (juniors and seniors). If anyone was at the South vs Shanley game last night, you would've seen what a "true" south cheering section was. Almost all the students wore the Shanley school uniform and a few went as far as wearing a nun and priest outfit. So the South AD are getting better, but they always came by the section as a reminder to keep it clean. But there were at least 3 rows of students filled, which is what every game should be. just too bad south couldn't win though with all the support


I was at that game ,very good student crowd! Why don't the students support the girls in the same way? They are one of the top teams in the state, and have been for the last 3 years. Yet the students don't go watch these ladies! There is some awesome athletes on that team.FSH STUDENTS GO SUPPORT THE LADY BRUINS!!!!
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Postby roundem6 » Sun Feb 07, 2010 3:48 pm

Because quite frankly no one really cares about girls basketball
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Postby sportsguruguy » Sun Feb 07, 2010 5:23 pm

[quote="roundem6"]Because quite frankly no one really cares about girls basketball[/quote

Hey roundhead, maybe FSH students should start! Go watch a real winning team that has proved to be a top caliber team for years. Not a below average team that has problems winning 6 games in a season!!

I forgot roundhead everything you post on this website is negative, so it is no shock to me that you would say something like that!!
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Postby Home Run » Sun Feb 07, 2010 6:51 pm

Sportsguruguy,

Unless you know for a fact that roundem is currently on the Fargo South boys basketball team or a member of its coaching staff, I think you are just as wrong as he is with your negative statements towards the boys basketball team. I understand your post is very reactionary, but, at the same time, should the negative implications be directed towards the Fargo South boys team and its coaching staff? I don't know as I'm just asking.
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Postby roundem6 » Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:24 pm

yep everything I post is negative. Ask 10 kids in high school right now and I guarantee 9 of them would rather watch boys basketball. Thats not negative, it's called facts pal.
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Postby roundem6 » Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:49 pm

I would personally rather cheer for a crappy boys team then a girls team that wins.. But hey, Im just a roundhead, I dont know anything and wouldnt shock you that I would say something like that. Also, what shape is your head since mine is round? is yours square or.....?
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Postby bruins44 » Mon Feb 08, 2010 2:13 pm

I was at the Shanley South boys game on Friday night, the South student section was all dressed in red polo shirts and kaki pants, I thought they did a great job.
The only black eye was the two boys dressed up as a priest and a nun, I thought that was uncalled for and they should have been asked to change clothes. Over all it was the best South student section I have seen all year!
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Postby Indy5 » Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:42 pm

bruins44 wrote:I was at the Shanley South boys game on Friday night, the South student section was all dressed in red polo shirts and kaki pants, I thought they did a great job.
The only black eye was the two boys dressed up as a priest and a nun, I thought that was uncalled for and they should have been asked to change clothes. Over all it was the best South student section I have seen all year!

I think the priest and nun is kinda funny. I'm sure no one was offened (at least they shouldn't be). Student sections need to step things up more. There isn't a whole lot of creativity out there. There is some but I would like to see more. I think Minot does a good job.
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Postby roundem6 » Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:52 pm

North's is by far the best in the East. Dont know about the West.
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Postby PWB4LIFE » Tue Feb 09, 2010 5:43 pm

I agree with Indy. When teenagers get told something, or get in trouble for dumb stuff, they resond worse then before. That's all their doing. Hopefully south administration will stop being fun killers!!
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Postby teamramrod » Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:42 pm

Indy5 wrote:
bruins44 wrote:I was at the Shanley South boys game on Friday night, the South student section was all dressed in red polo shirts and kaki pants, I thought they did a great job.
The only black eye was the two boys dressed up as a priest and a nun, I thought that was uncalled for and they should have been asked to change clothes. Over all it was the best South student section I have seen all year!

I think the priest and nun is kinda funny. I'm sure no one was offened (at least they shouldn't be). Student sections need to step things up more. There isn't a whole lot of creativity out there. There is some but I would like to see more. I think Minot does a good job.

id agree there isnt much creativity, north displays the most they have drress up days for each game, they even out cheered the red river student section at red river with about 7 guys and red river had quite a bit more, even at wf their student section out matched west fargos
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Postby hoops4lyf40 » Wed Feb 10, 2010 10:35 am

What happened at the South v. West Fargo game that created bad publicity for the AD?? I have never heard about this and am wondering what the story is.
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Postby Run4Fun2009 » Wed Feb 10, 2010 8:36 pm

roundem6 wrote:I would personally rather cheer for a crappy boys team then a girls team that wins.. But hey, Im just a roundhead, I dont know anything and wouldnt shock you that I would say something like that. Also, what shape is your head since mine is round? is yours square or.....?


I'd rather watch/cheer for the girls team!
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Postby roundem6 » Wed Feb 10, 2010 9:16 pm

Thanks for letting us know!!!! Maybe with South but that is the only exception. WF Girls or Boys?? North Girls or Boys??
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Postby Run4Fun2009 » Wed Feb 10, 2010 9:37 pm

roundem6 wrote:Thanks for letting us know!!!! Maybe with South but that is the only exception. WF Girls or Boys?? North Girls or Boys??


My point was I would rather watch a good girls team then sit there and watch a crappy boys team. In the case, of WF or North I'd watch both but be more interested in the boys programs; but I could care less about any one of these programs...just seen South play twice and was more impressed in the girls team then watching a below average boys team.
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