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Postby ripcord15 » Thu Jul 20, 2006 5:48 pm

There you go, now enough with the pointless A-B arugement, it never goes anywhere.
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Postby baseball » Thu Jul 20, 2006 8:03 pm

im still sticking with having a A team scheduale a B team.  The only reason the arguement goes nowhere is because class a is afraid to go any further and risk losing to a class b team.
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Postby bisonman » Thu Jul 20, 2006 10:58 pm

baseball wrote:im still sticking with having a A team scheduale a B team.  The only reason the arguement goes nowhere is because class a is afraid to go any further and risk losing to a class b team.

 Yea, i've talked to our athletic director about that. He just told me that Why would a class A team want to play a class B team? The class A team IS supposed to win and the class B team doesn't have anything to lose whereas the class A team has everything on the line. Instead of taking a loss to a lower division team... they just schedule against their JV, if they lose, ohh well. That's what our AD told me anyways. Makes sense.
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Postby tadam6 » Fri Jul 21, 2006 10:38 am

sounds pretty pathetic
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Postby baseball » Fri Jul 21, 2006 12:47 pm

If they are supposed to win, scheduale the game.
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Postby Ming01 » Fri Jul 21, 2006 1:54 pm

I wouldnt mind playing a Class B school.
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Postby kel20Nd » Sat Jul 22, 2006 3:30 pm

Ebert was getting clocked at state class a tourny and he was throwing 84 constantely in the championship game after throwing 7 innings in the openin round game
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Postby baseball » Sat Jul 22, 2006 5:20 pm

what does that have to do with anything? im willing to say any pitcher who threw in the state b threw 80-84 as well...
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Postby bisonman » Sun Jul 23, 2006 8:30 am

baseball wrote:If they are supposed to win, scheduale the game.

Yea, but Class A schools have Absolutely nothing to gain from it. Would you work a job you'd never get paid at and only have a chance to lose money working there? That's the best anology I can think of for it at this point.
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Postby baseball4 » Sun Jul 23, 2006 8:36 am

baseball wrote:what does that have to do with anything? im willing to say any pitcher who threw in the state b threw 80-84 as well...

 

hahaha....that's funny
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Postby tanner lorenz » Sun Jul 23, 2006 9:43 am

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baseball wrote:what does that have to do with anything? im willing to say any pitcher who threw in the state b threw 80-84 as well...

 

hahaha....that's funny

it is, seeing how nobady from steele throws close to 80
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Postby baseball » Sun Jul 23, 2006 4:41 pm

tanner lorenz wrote:it is, seeing how nobady from steele throws close to 80

how did they win it then. having a "weak" staff and everyone saying class a has better pitching. that whole thing was crap now saying that steele didnt have hard throwers. i guess its nice when your can hit 1-9 huh.
sure i hear talk about these A guys throw so hard but i hear nothing about a curveball. in teh best pitcher topic its always "o this guy hit 88" "this guy constently hits 85".  88-85 is nothing without a curveball.  good hitting teams like steal will catch up to that heat if they are sitting on it.
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Postby baseball4 » Sun Jul 23, 2006 6:03 pm

I think you have to realize that  There are a lot of guys in class A that throw high 70's to low 80's but that is normal.  But when you start getting to 84-85 thats a big difference.  It may not sound like it but 3-4 mph more is a lot.  And 88mph without a curveball is nothing??  If you throw 88 mph and throw any thing that is slower or moves a little more, it is gonna throw you off balance.  Class  B has its share of guys that throw throw 83-85, but there is no way you can say every guy that threw at the state B hit 80.  That did not even happen at the State A and I know that for a fact. 
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Postby bisonman » Sun Jul 23, 2006 7:10 pm

100 mph or 30 mph... in this league all you need is a 10-20 mph difference in a change up and keep the batters on that front toe and you're set.
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Postby bison_18 » Sun Jul 23, 2006 11:00 pm

bisonman wrote:100 mph or 30 mph... in this league all you need is a 10-20 mph difference in a change up and keep the batters on that front toe and you're set.


Well said, very well said. A good pitcher with a good changeup can shutdown ANY team(of course if not left up in the zone where it will get hit 450 ft). If a pitcher has changeup with good movement, it is certainly just as good as a curveball even better.
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Postby ndfan » Mon Jul 24, 2006 3:04 am

[user=335]bisonman[/user] wrote:
100 mph or 30 mph... in this league all you need is a 10-20 mph difference in a change up and keep the batters on that front toe and you're set.


Gotta agree the whole you need to be able to throw 80-90 mph to be effective or good. (Pretty much just a stuff contest) If ya wanna be effective as a pitcher ya don't wanna get behind in the count, throw more strikes then balls, don't walk anybody, change speeds and have a good defense behind ya. If ya can do that you don't need to throw 80-90 mph to be effective.
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Postby Saucesauer » Mon Jul 24, 2006 6:50 am

bisonman wrote:100 mph or 30 mph... in this league all you need is a 10-20 mph difference in a change up and keep the batters on that front toe and you're set.

regardless of the speed all you need is a pitcher that throws strikes i would let batters hit absolute stuff rockets at my 3rd baseman all day he would just knock it down and throw them out and than sometimes he gets lucky when some teams 6 7 8 batters go up there and have no intention of swinging the bat and are just happy to be on the team or on the feild
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Postby baseball » Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:12 am

[user=463]Saucesauer[/user] wrote:

regardless of the speed all you need is a pitcher that throws strikes i would let batters hit absolute crap rockets at my 3rd baseman all day he would just knock it down and throw them out and than sometimes he gets lucky when some teams 6 7 8 batters go up there and have no intention of swinging the bat and are just happy to be on the team or on the feild

you plan on having the 3rd baseman the whole year or for just 1 game? wait til he takes one of them "crap rockets" off the grill.
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Postby tadam6 » Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:30 am

i sense tension...anyone else sense tension??
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Postby ndfan » Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:42 am

[user=734]tadam6[/user] wrote:
i sense tension...anyone else sense tension??


I sense it too
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Postby tadam6 » Mon Jul 24, 2006 5:24 pm

im pretty sure that everyone but canada agrees w/ me....we should all get along..
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Postby tadam6 » Mon Jul 24, 2006 5:25 pm

oh and by the way...nobody from steele even comes close to 80
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Postby muddy lots » Mon Jul 24, 2006 7:29 pm

Not at all
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Postby baseball » Mon Jul 24, 2006 8:21 pm

still got the job done huh?:cool:
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Postby tadam6 » Tue Jul 25, 2006 9:29 am

yeah you did at congrats to you but we're not talking about winning a state championship we're talking about pitching...:D
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