Ebert best pitcher?

Postby Saas25 » Tue Jun 13, 2006 10:40 am

Loomis, Wentz and unsure bout the 3rd one.
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Postby ndplayer » Tue Jun 13, 2006 11:25 am

1.  Wentz
2.  Schroeder
3.  Borr
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Postby Saas25 » Tue Jun 13, 2006 11:33 am

How can you put Borr over Loomis or even Schroeder for that matter?  Borr is good but if you look at stats and who they beat you gotta give it to Loomis.
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Postby baseball4 » Tue Jun 13, 2006 11:44 am

did loomis beat minot and williston??? or schroeder?......cus borr did.   so if you look at who they beat borr is up there
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Postby ndplayer » Tue Jun 13, 2006 12:06 pm

Saas25 wrote:How can you put Borr over Loomis or even Schroeder for that matter?  Borr is good but if you look at stats and who they beat you gotta give it to Loomis.

Have you looked at the stats?  Not only did borr beat loomis head to head, he beat minot, and williston.  Also, the kid walked only 2 batters all season.  That is ultimate control.  As for putting schroeder above loomis, i see schroeder as having the advantage over loomis mostly becuase he is the best left-hander with such a great backdoor curve that is only going to get better.
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Postby Saucesauer » Tue Jun 13, 2006 4:53 pm

all i know is wentz is the best what other pitcher can throw 5 yes 5 pitches for a strike
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Postby tanner lorenz » Tue Jun 13, 2006 5:28 pm

Saucesauer wrote:all i know is wentz is the best what other pitcher can throw 5 yes 5 pitches for a strike
most pitchers can throw 5 pitches for strikes, its just how effective it is :D, thats prolly what u meant tho
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Postby Ming01 » Tue Jun 13, 2006 6:49 pm

Gathman is the best for next year.  I also agree that its tough to put Borr and Schroeder above Loomis.
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Postby Strike3? » Tue Jun 13, 2006 7:34 pm

Whys it so tough to put Borr above Schroeder and Loomis

 
It's a round ball and a round bat, and you got to hit it square.
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Postby Strike3? » Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:06 pm

Ming01 wrote:Actually because he is a better pitcher than them.  Yeah I bullpen catcher for him.  That makes sense.

How do you know he is a better pitcher than Borr? Why do you think he is a better pitcher then Borr?
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Postby Ming01 » Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:09 pm

I have faced Borr before.
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Postby Ming01 » Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:09 pm

Strike3? wrote:
Ming01 wrote:Actually because he is a better pitcher than them.  Yeah I bullpen catcher for him.  That makes sense.

How do you know he is a better pitcher than Borr? Why do you think he is a better pitcher then Borr?

Because I've seen both of them pitch.
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Postby Strike3? » Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:12 pm

And didnt Borr beat Loomis when they went against each other?
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Postby 4for4 » Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:15 pm

They are all good, let's just leave it at that, they all have another season or two to play, so let's argue about this after next season k?
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Postby sports-38 » Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:25 pm

They are all pretty good, number one is Wentz, he has a strong arm and can spot the ball, number 2 is borr, with only 2 walks all year, that it impressive adn he also helped Mandan make there run at the end of the season, number 3 is Loomis/Qvale, they are both good pitchers, i think that Schroeder would be next, i belive that he gave up way too many walks,  i think he had 7 more walks than innnings pitched.
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Postby sports-38 » Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:33 pm

Ming01 wrote:Gathman is the best for next year. 
 Ming, your boy Loomis is better than Gathman, hes not as impressive as he was when he was younger.
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Postby Strike3? » Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:44 pm

Everyone keeps saying Loomis is better, what does Loomis have that Borr dosent?....just wondering.
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Postby kel20Nd » Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:46 pm

Saas25 wrote:
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wow that is really awesome.  Do you have something against Loomis man?  It's not a matter of who beat who to decide who is the better pitcher.
No i think loomis is really good pitcher he can be alittle shakey once in awhile but when he has his stuff he is as good as anyone he is diffentely in the top 5......you could put Qvale,Wentz,Borr,Schreoder,Loomis in any order none of them really stick out from the rest
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Postby 4for4 » Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:53 pm

Keller who?
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Postby baseball18 » Tue Jun 13, 2006 9:02 pm

from mandan
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Postby 4for4 » Tue Jun 13, 2006 9:04 pm

But yeah Loomis is way better than borr, it doesn't matter who won head to head to who's a better pitcher, IMO Borr gets lucky, no one can hit that slow of pitching, so if he KIND OF hits a spot, he's hard to hit, which is why he wins games. Loomis is better without a doubt, and even though that picture is funny, There's no need for it, Ming is just a good kid who likes playing baseball, who gives a crap if he's catching in the bullpen, even though he isnt, besides, how many kids are there in the Bis/Man area who dont play because they arent talented enough? Very many. And just because Ming isn't the 3 hitter and the Ace of the staff doesn't mean he needs to be singled out. Pick on the Kids who are playing Zelda for Nintendo 64 in the spring.
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Postby baseball18 » Tue Jun 13, 2006 9:07 pm

Lol.  Yeah who cares, the crap being said doesnt even matter, it is coming from Mandan people.
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Postby 4for4 » Tue Jun 13, 2006 9:09 pm

Lol yah you do have a point there.
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Postby Ditka14 » Tue Jun 13, 2006 9:44 pm

Borr from mandan that kid is an ace as well
its okay.....
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Postby Saucesauer » Tue Jun 13, 2006 9:58 pm

there are a couple of things i cant seem to figure out how come no one is saying bollinger he is one heck of a pitcher the kid can flat out throw the ball by you before you know what is going on and as a lefty that just makes him harder to face

borr is a deceent pitcher but when you look at the overview of it all put a couple of these thoughts in you head borr vs loomis when you look at mandans lineup of course borr wins smchs has a solid 1and 3 hitter and that is about it somtimes others step up while mandan has a pretty solid 1-7 and 9 hitters they will all hit so thats helps him the reason i think borr beat minot is because they are all a bunch of co*** and were too over confident and most of them can only hit kids who throw over 60 mph so they couldnt slow their bats up enough to hit him.

and will someone please tell me what schroder did this year that everyone thinks he is such a outstandng pitcher because he didnt show me this year

in my opinion top 3 looks like this unless someone can make a legitimate case otherwise and dont just say because so and so beat him when it was the pitchers offense and defense doing all the work

1Wentz 5 pitches while most only have 3 if they are lucky

2Loomis Hard accurate nasty curve and knuck

3Bollinger Lefty Hard accurate  ??curve does he have one??
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