B-oldtimer wrote:The reason for the three classes was to bring about balance in teams competing in the state and not having larger towns dominate smaller towns year in and year out. Here in Northeast district Grafton had won the NE region like nearly every year. I am not saying there are not couple of teams that could be in upper level of class A. The towns of Langdon and Carrington have good programs but by no means do they have numbers to compete with any class AA team. Langdon legion team is made up several Baberuth players that play and start for them. Carrington is similar to Langdon with maybe a little more depth but not teams made up older kids each year they rely on younger kids to make their teams. Thompson I think is on the cusp of being class A team because of where they can draw their kids from close to metropolitan area and the depth they have shown over the last few years. This having depth and mature players is even more needed today than when they started the third class because the new rules on pitch counts has put depth primary concern for teams competing. Pitching was always limiting factor and now with pitch counts the need for more pitchers is must. The difference between class A and class b teams is the depth at pitcher where usually a lot of class b town may have up to three older experienced pitchers then you start getting to younger pitchers even to where they may even be baberuth kid pitching. The larger towns just have depth of having numbers to have depth at pitching. I have not heard of many complaints here from class b teams and they seem to like how its structured now. The complaints seem to come from the Class A teams and I believe its because being competitive division winning and going to state in not as easy accomplishment as it was when they were with combined class b and class a field. I believe it helped some smaller class b towns keep programs going because the kids feel they have chance to win where before they were just getting beat up year after year felt they had no chance. At this point I just don't see where they are going to change this tournaments are popular and even class b is getting televised like last year so I can't imagine them changing this format.
Rivershark wrote:What would be wrong with combining the A and B divisions and have a 16 team double elimination tournament, similar to Minnesota. Minnesota does their tournament in 4 days. North Dakota's tournament has 8 teams and it lasts 5 days.
Flip wrote:How hard would it be to manage pitching in a tournament like that? It's a serious question, I don't know what the pitching limits are in ND.
Rivershark wrote:B-oldtimer wrote:The reason for the three classes was to bring about balance in teams competing in the state and not having larger towns dominate smaller towns year in and year out. Here in Northeast district Grafton had won the NE region like nearly every year. I am not saying there are not couple of teams that could be in upper level of class A. The towns of Langdon and Carrington have good programs but by no means do they have numbers to compete with any class AA team. Langdon legion team is made up several Baberuth players that play and start for them. Carrington is similar to Langdon with maybe a little more depth but not teams made up older kids each year they rely on younger kids to make their teams. Thompson I think is on the cusp of being class A team because of where they can draw their kids from close to metropolitan area and the depth they have shown over the last few years. This having depth and mature players is even more needed today than when they started the third class because the new rules on pitch counts has put depth primary concern for teams competing. Pitching was always limiting factor and now with pitch counts the need for more pitchers is must. The difference between class A and class b teams is the depth at pitcher where usually a lot of class b town may have up to three older experienced pitchers then you start getting to younger pitchers even to where they may even be baberuth kid pitching. The larger towns just have depth of having numbers to have depth at pitching. I have not heard of many complaints here from class b teams and they seem to like how its structured now. The complaints seem to come from the Class A teams and I believe its because being competitive division winning and going to state in not as easy accomplishment as it was when they were with combined class b and class a field. I believe it helped some smaller class b towns keep programs going because the kids feel they have chance to win where before they were just getting beat up year after year felt they had no chance. At this point I just don't see where they are going to change this tournaments are popular and even class b is getting televised like last year so I can't imagine them changing this format.
I'm going to disagree with you on the difference between A and B being the depth at pitcher. I haven't seen a 16yr. old team in the A division with pitching depth. The teams with pitching depth are the teams that do a good job developing their pitchers at all levels. The class A tournament is not even close to being as popular as the B tournament otherwise it would be televised too.
Would have won anywayhook wrote:Also not sure why Park River would complain... the new system made it easier to win a state a title.
A Or Bmadseason wrote:Would have won anywayhook wrote:Also not sure why Park River would complain... the new system made it easier to win a state a title.
madseason wrote:How big a town is Surrey?? Why are they class A?
hook wrote:Also not sure why Park River would complain... the new system made it easier to win a state a title.
madseason wrote:Has Thompson got GF players? Maybe not so much now but in the past? Being so close to GF should automatically make Thompson A? If Surrey is then so should Thompson
Run4Fun2009 wrote:madseason wrote:Has Thompson got GF players? Maybe not so much now but in the past? Being so close to GF should automatically make Thompson A? If Surrey is then so should Thompson
Surrey is A I believe because they have Minot players (Class B Minot players) on the team...I may be wrong though.
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