hockeynut wrote:First home playoff game for Jamestown since 1994. That’s a long time folks but it took a move to AA to do it.
hockeynut wrote:First home playoff game for Jamestown since 1994. That’s a long time folks but it took a move to AA to do it.
Bisonguy06 wrote:I have a simple, yet radical idea.
Allow opting up or down by one class.
Heimer, you strike me as an open borders guy. What do you think?
If we set the number at 500, we're stating that we believe you need that enrollment to compete at the top level, based on a comprehensive look at the state and what average teams bring to bear. I think 500 is a good line. You may like it elsewhere. Either way, setting a number says we believe in something that is based on actual science, not on what we can draw up to make 1968 administrator's head hurt less.
magic man wrote:How did I miss this thread?
Couple of notes:
Sniper - "What I would really like to see is a rule in place where schools without borders must play one class above where their enrollment places them."
Hmmm. I wonder what schools he's talking about there? Just say what you mean, no one is tricked by the slick way of saying it.
Bisonguy - "I'm against all weighted multipliers and dividers. A boy is a boy, no matter where he enrolls."
Music to my ears. I agree with the majority of what you are saying here, especially the last comments regarding the opting up, and the "11 Man A, St Mary's" situation.
ndlionsfan wrote:No matter which way you slice it with any plan, I believe the underlined teams all belong in the top class no matter what. They are all similar in size and located in the largest cities in the state. I don't care how much anyone argues, 400 boys can compete with 550 boys. Bolded teams are also all very similar and I believe belong in the same class. Only possible exception is HCV since it is a coop. Right now their program would compete fine in AA as they did in the past, but will it be able to sustain due to being a coop I don't know. Hillsboro should continue to grow I would expect and align well with the other cities listed.
11-A: Beulah, Turtle Mountain, St. Marys, Watford City, Kindred, Hillsboro-Central Valley, Central Cass, Wahpeton, Valley City, Shanley
11-AA: Devils Lake, Jamestown, Dickinson, Mandan, Fargo North, Red River, Fargo South,
11-AAA: West Fargo, Sheyenne, Davies, GF Central, Minot, Legacy, Century, Bismarck, Williston
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[code][code][code]Because you've been conditioned to believe that enrollment is everything, and there is nothing more?
Look at the AAA playoffs this year. After three Bismarck schools, there was room for one more team, typically taken up by Minot. It went to Mandan, and they were dispatched quickly. Dickinson, Williston, and now Jamestown, won't get a sniff.
The East is the same. Fargo, Fargo, Fargo, West Fargo. If not those schools, the other West Fargo. Shanley may, or may not, be a factor.
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AAA football is broken. You can't even get quality regular season games.[/b]
The average margin of victory in a AAA game this year, was 23.73. Twelve of 63 games were decided by single digits, and, in the other 51 games, the average margin of victory was 28.07.
I'm guessing the other classes of football would produce similar numbers. I'll get the number on the non-playoff teams later tonight, but we have to start asking ourselves if we actually want a good regular season, or just good playoff games. I'd rather see kids play 6 or 7 meaningful games, rather than 2 and 7 slaughters, on either side of the ball.[/quote][/code][/code][/code]
heimer wrote:So, the state is pretty well screwed in a few years.
West Fargo 3 will be complete in 2021, just in time for the new realignment (not this one, but the next one).
This will create 17 teams in a 16 team division.
What to do, what to do......
The obvious answer would be to let Jamestown go back down. Problem is, that will leave 9 teams in Fargo, West Fargo, and Grand Forks, and only 7 out west.
Since our fine friends on the committees love balance, someone has to be a west team. So, which one of the West Fargo schools wants to be in the west region?
Anyone? Anyone?
Knowing that that option doesn't work, here are some Karlie solutions. Which do you think is the most likely?
1) St Marys opts up. After two years of wrecking a Shanleyless AA, maybe there will be an NDSU level of embarrassment around having zero competition at their current level, and join the east Catholics at the apex. This is the most likely solution, and the Saints will have new digs, and playing the Big 3 in the Capital might me the marketing push needed to fill the new desks.
This, of course, absolutely screws Jamestown, penalizing the Blue Jays until Minot 2 comes to fruition.
2) Minot 2 actually happens. Next most likely solution. Word is since the voters actually care about property taxes in the Magic City, the school district has to come up with a plan they can pay for without voter approval. That idea is to remodel the 9-10 grade building and make it a full high school. Only a rumor and probably more than two years out, so not likely.
By the way, this completely screws Jamestown also, unless both one and two happen.
3) Shanley quits quick. The Deacons give it the ole college try, and quickly figure out what Kevin Feeney knew: you can work really hard, get that bottom seed, and go get drilled in the first round.
In this scenario, one from each side goes down, and all is well, until Minot 2 happens, putting, like a Mandan, Dickinson, or Williston AA (I haven't checked their numbers). That will be a bunch of fun.
4) The state figures it out. 16 teams, statewide conference, 10 games, 6 you don't play in a nine-game season, with all teams making the playoffs, QRF determined seeds.
This is as likely as NDSU fielding a hockey team or Minnesota voting for Trump. This state doesn't like change, doesn't like QRF, and 16 at 1 in the opening round is probably not a winner.
5) Smaller top class, 5 classes. If Jesus comes back tomorrow, this will happen. Makes the most sense, so of course, won't happen.
Two years. Count it down.
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