Page 1 of 4
2019 PLAYOFF BRACKET
Posted:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 11:27 pmby Run4Fun2009
Saturday, October 26th
G1: R1-4 LaMoure-LM 6 @ #1 R2-1 (1) Cavalier 44
G2: R2-3 St. John 46 @ R1-2 (RV) May-Port-CG 6
G3: R3-4 Surrey 12 @ #4 R4-1 (RV) Linton-HMB 24
G4: R4-3 Beach 8 @ R3-2 (RV) Central MCLean 0
G5: R2-4 North Prairie 8 @ #2 R1-1 (3) Finley-Sharon-Hope-Page 46
G6: R1-3 Tri-State 14 @ R2-2 (2) New Rockford-Sheyenne 60
G7: R4-4 Grant County-Flasher 48 @ #3 R3-1 (4) Ray/Powers Lake 6
G8: R3-3 Mohall-Lansford-Sherwood 8 @ R4-2 (5) Kidder County 36
Saturday, November 2nd
G9: R2-3 St. John 16 @ #1 R2-1 (1) Cavalier 46
G10: R4-3 Beach 14 @ #4 R4-1 (RV) Linton-HMB 28
G11: R2-2 (2) New Rockford-Sheyenne 42 @ #2 R1-1 (3) Finley-Sharon-Hope-Page 44
G12: R4-4 Grant County-Flasher 28 @ R4-2 (5) Kidder County 34
Saturday, November 9th
G13: #4 R4-1 (RV) Linton-HMB 28 @ #1 R2-1 (1) Cavalier 30 F/2OT
G14: R4-2 (5) Kidder County 46 @ #2 R1-1 (3) Finley-Sharon-Hope-Page 6
Friday, November 15th @ FargoDome (9:00a CT)
CHAMPIONSHIP: #1 R2-1 (1) Cavalier 32 vs. R4-2 (5) Kidder County 54
CHAMPS: (5) Kidder County (11-1)
Runner-Up: (1) Cavalier (12-1)
SENIOR ATHLETE OF THE YEAR: Bo Belquist, New Rockford-Sheyenne
COACH OF THE YEAR: Jack Biesterfeld, Kidder County
Re: 2019 PLAYOFF BRACKET
Posted:
Sat Oct 19, 2019 12:26 pmby heimer
The NDHSAA website has begun listing pairings for the first round.
Their general bracket indicates they intend to seed the teams, at least the top four. Until that is done, the pairings would seem to be a bit premature, unless they are just going to pencil in the first round being a north vs south round in both halves of the state, and let the chips fall where they may after that.
Anyone know if that's the case?
Re: 2019 PLAYOFF BRACKET
Posted:
Sat Oct 19, 2019 12:51 pmby Run4Fun2009
heimer wrote:The NDHSAA website has begun listing pairings for the first round.
Their general bracket indicates they intend to seed the teams, at least the top four. Until that is done, the pairings would seem to be a bit premature, unless they are just going to pencil in the first round being a north vs south round in both halves of the state, and let the chips fall where they may after that.
Anyone know if that's the case?
QRF will be run tomorrow morning...they will shift the bracket once the seedings come out; going to guess they've been fielding questions on the bracket matchups...
For public knowledge of matchups:
https://ndhsaanow.com/brackets/footballActual official bracket:
https://ndhsaanow.com/brackets/football ... tournament
Re: 2019 PLAYOFF BRACKET
Posted:
Sun Oct 20, 2019 6:26 pmby Sorenson23
Cavalier 50-18
May-Port-CG 36-30
Linton-HMB 30-8
Central McLean 26-14
Finley-Sharon-Hope-Page 34-30
New Rockford-Sheyenne 52-16
Grant County-Flasher 32-26
Kidder County 30-12
Re: 2019 PLAYOFF BRACKET
Posted:
Sun Oct 20, 2019 7:37 pmby woodchuck10
I’ll take Region 2 and 4 sweeps in round one.
Hearing that NP vs FSHP is being played in Casselton. Probably see all of the east matchups in round 1 played on turf.
Re: 2019 PLAYOFF BRACKET
Posted:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 3:29 pmby caserace0710
woodchuck10 wrote:I’ll take Region 2 and 4 sweeps in round one.
Hearing that NP vs FSHP is being played in Casselton. Probably see all of the east matchups in round 1 played on turf.
Per the NDHSAA playoff bracket, NP and FSHP are playing in Hope (Hope-Page HS) while Tri-State and NR-Sheyenne are playing in Central Cass.
Re: 2019 PLAYOFF BRACKET
Posted:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:08 amby footballislife33
caserace0710 wrote:woodchuck10 wrote:I’ll take Region 2 and 4 sweeps in round one.
Hearing that NP vs FSHP is being played in Casselton. Probably see all of the east matchups in round 1 played on turf.
Per the NDHSAA playoff bracket, NP and FSHP are playing in Hope (Hope-Page HS) while Tri-State and NR-Sheyenne are playing in Central Cass.
From what I have heard, both games will be played at Central Cass on Satruday
Re: 2019 PLAYOFF BRACKET
Posted:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 11:54 amby ChickenNuggets
Interesting topic from the Class A board- What if the entire bracket was seeded based 100% on QRF?
#16 LaMoure @ #1 Cavalier
#9 Mohall @ #8 Kidder County
#12 Beach @ #5 Linton HMB (Gave them the tie-breaker over MPCG Because of Region Champs)
#13 North Prairie @ #4 Ray/Powers Lake
#14 Tri-State @ #3- New Rockford/Sheyenne
#11 Grant County/Flasher @ #6 MayPort CG
#10 St. John @ #7 Central McLean
#15 Surrey @ #2 Finley-Sharon/Hope/Page
Geographically which matchups would be the longest first round match-ups? Who do you think would benefit the most if they did this? Who would this most negatively effect?
Interesting that in this scenario we have 3 Region Champs in the top half of the bracket.
It looks like all the same teams would host first round games that currently do as well.
Re: 2019 PLAYOFF BRACKET
Posted:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 12:18 pmby woodchuck10
I like this idea. Would like to make sure no round 1 matchups with teams from same region. Also make sure Region champions are guaranteed first round home game, would be pretty difficult to be lower than eighth and be a region champ tho lol
Moved NP and Beach around but have them keep their seeds
#16 LaMoure @ #1 Cavalier
#9 Mohall @ #8 Kidder County
#13 North Prairie @ #5 Linton HMB
#12 Beach @ #4 Ray/Powers Lake
#15 Surrey @ #2 Finley-Sharon/Hope/Page
#10 St. John @ #7 Central McLean
#14 Tri-State @ #3- New Rockford/Sheyenne
#11 Grant County/Flasher @ #6 MayPort CG
Beach to Cavalier or Tri-State to Divide County would be some long trips.
New Rockford benefits a lot, two home playoff games guaranteed vs one guaranteed.
Re: 2019 PLAYOFF BRACKET
Posted:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 12:49 pmby The Schwab
I would be in favor of seeding 1-16 based on the formula (as long as they'd let us know what the formula is). Other states use cross bracketing, so we could as well.
Re: 2019 PLAYOFF BRACKET
Posted:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 2:08 pmby Run4Fun2009
The Schwab wrote:I would be in favor of seeding 1-16 based on the formula (as long as they'd let us know what the formula is). Other states use cross bracketing, so we could as well.
http://www.minnesota-scores.net/faq.php
Re: 2019 PLAYOFF BRACKET
Posted:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 2:16 pmby The Schwab
Yep I've read that before, but it still doesn't give the exact formula. I know I've mentioned this before, but it really bothers me that it's not public.
Re: 2019 PLAYOFF BRACKET
Posted:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 2:28 pmby Run4Fun2009
The Schwab wrote:Yep I've read that before, but it still doesn't give the exact formula. I know I've mentioned this before, but it really bothers me that it's not public.
NDHSAA & MSHSL want it hidden. My guess is take it up with the NDHSAA and see if they let you know the details. I know the just of it I just don’t know the formula number involved (and I’m within the sites as a score poster and employee for both state sites).
Re: 2019 PLAYOFF BRACKET
Posted:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 2:31 pmby woodchuck10
how many people know the formula? are there known flaws? What is said against the QRF from people who know the formula?
Re: 2019 PLAYOFF BRACKET
Posted:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 3:49 pmby Run4Fun2009
woodchuck10 wrote:how many people know the formula? are there known flaws? What is said against the QRF from people who know the formula?
Exact formula...probably can count it on one hand.
ND doesn’t use it for much so I don’t actually hear much about it; MN has more of a grasp on it as it’s been around awhile...you catch on to the tendencies quicker. I usually know how things will move (knew how the Cav/NRS winner was going to shift drastically). The flaws tend to be complaints from people who don’t understand how it works...but it’s also not full proof prediction...that’s why you play the games.
Re: 2019 PLAYOFF BRACKET
Posted:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:18 pmby Sniper
I am going to use basketball as an example of a QRF flaw:
Two teams have the same record. These teams played each other four times, with one team winning three times, including the district and region championship games. The team that lost three times was still ranked 20 points higher after their third head to head loss.
There needs to be something in the formula that takes head to head games into account.
Re: 2019 PLAYOFF BRACKET
Posted:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:31 pmby JMHS
Saturday, October 26th
G1: R1-4 LaMoure-LM (5-4) @ #1 R2-1 Cavalier (9-0)
G2: R2-3 St. John (7-2) @ R1-2 May-Port-CG (7-1)
G3: R3-4 Surrey (6-3) @ #4 R4-1 Linton-HMB (7-1)
G4: R4-3 Beach (6-2) @ R3-2 Central MCLean (7-1)
G5: R2-4 North Prairie (6-3) @ #2 R1-1 Finley-Sharon-Hope-Page (9-0)
G6: R1-3 Tri-State (5-3) @ R2-2 New Rockford-Sheyenne (7-1)
G7: R4-4 Grant County-Flasher (6-2) @ #3 R3-1 Ray/Powers Lake (7-1)
G8: R3-3 Mohall-Lansford-Sherwood (7-2) @ R4-2 Kidder County (7-1)
Re: 2019 PLAYOFF BRACKET
Posted:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:33 pmby Run4Fun2009
Sniper wrote:I am going to use basketball as an example of a QRF flaw:
Two teams have the same record. These teams played each other four times, with one team winning three times, including the district and region championship games. The team that lost three times was still ranked 20 points higher after their third head to head loss.
There needs to be something in the formula that takes head to head games into account.
In ND, it doesn’t matter as its not used in basketball...in MN there is an exception to that scenario. Why waste time with it in ND if it’s not being used for anything?
Re: 2019 PLAYOFF BRACKET
Posted:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 7:14 pmby Sniper
Run4Fun2009 wrote:Sniper wrote:I am going to use basketball as an example of a QRF flaw:
Two teams have the same record. These teams played each other four times, with one team winning three times, including the district and region championship games. The team that lost three times was still ranked 20 points higher after their third head to head loss.
There needs to be something in the formula that takes head to head games into account.
In ND, it doesn’t matter as its not used in basketball...in MN there is an exception to that scenario. Why waste time with it in ND if it’s not being used for anything?
I am just pointing out how I do not like how little head to head matters in the formula and used basketball as an example because teams play more games and are more likely to play the same oppenent multiple times.
Re: 2019 PLAYOFF BRACKET
Posted:
Thu Oct 24, 2019 8:40 amby OdessaAardvark
Saturday, October 26th
G1: R1-4 LaMoure-LM (5-4) @ #1 R2-1 (1) Cavalier (9-0)
G2: R2-3 St. John (7-2) @ R1-2 (RV) May-Port-CG (7-1)
G3: R3-4 Surrey (6-3) @ #4 R4-1 (RV) Linton-HMB (7-1)
G4: R4-3 Beach (6-2) @ R3-2 (RV) Central MCLean (7-1)
G5: R2-4 North Prairie (6-3) @ #2 R1-1 (3) Finley-Sharon-Hope-Page (9-0)
G6: R1-3 Tri-State (5-3) @ R2-2 (2) New Rockford-Sheyenne (7-1)
G7: R4-4 Grant County-Flasher (6-2) @ #3 R3-1 (4) Ray/Powers Lake (7-1)
G8: R3-3 Mohall-Lansford-Sherwood (7-2) @ R4-2 (5) Kidder County (7-1)
Re: 2019 PLAYOFF BRACKET
Posted:
Thu Oct 24, 2019 9:18 amby ChickenNuggets
Can anyone post exactly where and when the 9-man first round games are going to be? I've heard many games are being played on neutral fields on turf because of poor field conditions, especially in the East.
Re: 2019 PLAYOFF BRACKET
Posted:
Thu Oct 24, 2019 10:38 amby Run4Fun2009
scc wrote:ChickenNuggets wrote:Can anyone post exactly where and when the 9-man first round games are going to be? I've heard many games are being played on neutral fields on turf because of poor field conditions, especially in the East.
Two games are being played at neutral sites.
https://ndhsaanow.com/brackets/football ... tournament
Both games are from the same quadrant too...1st two on schedule
Re: 2019 PLAYOFF BRACKET
Posted:
Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:08 amby NDSUBISON
Saturday, October 26th
G1: R1-4 LaMoure-LM (5-4) @ #1 R2-1 (1) Cavalier (9-0)
G2: R2-3 St. John (7-2) @ R1-2 (RV) May-Port-CG (7-1)
G3: R3-4 Surrey (6-3) @ #4 R4-1 (RV) Linton-HMB (7-1)
G4: R4-3 Beach (6-2) @ R3-2 (RV) Central MCLean (7-1)
G5: R2-4 North Prairie (6-3) @ #2 R1-1 (3) Finley-Sharon-Hope-Page (9-0)
G6: R1-3 Tri-State (5-3) @ R2-2 (2) New Rockford-Sheyenne (7-1)
G7: R4-4 Grant County-Flasher (6-2) @ #3 R3-1 (4) Ray/Powers Lake (7-1)
G8: R3-3 Mohall-Lansford-Sherwood (7-2) @ R4-2 (5) Kidder County (7-1)
Re: 2019 PLAYOFF BRACKET
Posted:
Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:28 amby ChickenNuggets
Run4Fun2009 wrote:scc wrote:ChickenNuggets wrote:Can anyone post exactly where and when the 9-man first round games are going to be? I've heard many games are being played on neutral fields on turf because of poor field conditions, especially in the East.
Two games are being played at neutral sites.
https://ndhsaanow.com/brackets/football ... tournament
Both games are from the same quadrant too...1st two on schedule
LaMoure @ Cavalier being played at Cushman in GF if I have heard correctly?
Tri-State @ New Rockford I heard may be played in Casselton? Kind of odd that the home team has to travel 140 miles and the visiting team about 90. Considering this could potentially be NR/S only "home" game in the play-offs, they could travel approximately 1600 miles round trip if they go to Casselton, to FSHP, to Ray/PL and then to the Fargodome.
Re: 2019 PLAYOFF BRACKET
Posted:
Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:39 amby Run4Fun2009
It is officially in Casselton now...which benefits NR-S and their style of play even though they have to travel for the home game; game is a bit more centrally located now