North Dakota Preps

Saturday, October 15th
G1: R1 #3 Richland def. R3 #3 Linton-HMB 18-10
G2: R2 #2 (4) Cavalier def. R1#4 Hatton-Northwood 50-20
G3: R3 #4 Kidder County def. R2 #3 New Rockford-Sheyenne 24-22
G4: R1 #2 Wyndmere-Lidgerwood def. R2 #4 North Border 49-24

G5: R6 #3 Divide County def. R5 #3 Hettinger-Scranton 36-32
G6: R6 #2 Kenmare-Bowbells def. R4 #4 Drake-Anamoose 70-12
G7: R4 #3 TGU def. R6 #4 Tioga 44-0
G8: R4 #2 St. John def. R5 #4 Bowman County 42-0

Saturday, October 22nd
G9: R2 #1 (1) Thompson def. R1 #3 Richland 66-19
G10: R3 #2 (RV) Napoleon/Gackle-Streeter def. R2 #2 (4) Cavalier 32-26
G11: R1 #1 (RV) Hankinson def. R3 #4 Kidder County 24-16
G12: R3 #1 (2) Shiloh Christian def. R1 #2 Wyndmere-Lidgerwood 46-41

G13: R4 #1 (3) North Prairie def. R6 #3 Divide County 62-6
G14: R6 #2 Kenmare-Bowbells def. R5 #2 Richardton-Taylor-Hebron 38-8
G15: R5 #1 (5) New Salem-Glen Ullin def. R4 #3 TGU 40-12
G16: R4 #2 St. John def. R6 #1 Mohall-Lansford-Sherwood 16-14

Saturday, October 29th
G17: R2 #1 (1) Thompson def. R3 #2 (RV) Napoleon/Gackle-Streeter 52-0
G18: R3 #1 (2) Shiloh Christian def. R1 #1 (RV) Hankinson 12-8
G19: R4 #1 (3) North Prairie def. R6 #2 Kenmare-Bowbells 46-12
G20: R5 #1 (5) New Salem-Glen Ullin def. R4 #2 St. John 44-12

Saturday, November 5th
G21: R2 #1 (1) Thompson def. R3 #1 (2) Shiloh Christian 44-30
G22: R5 #1 (5) New Salem-Glen Ullin def. R4 #1 North Prairie 38-14

Friday, November 11th
Championship: R2 #1 (1) Thompson def. R5 #1 (5) New Salem-Glen Ullin 54-20

1st: Thompson (12-0)
2nd: New Salem-Glen Ullin (10-2)

9-Man Senior Athlete of the Year: Calen Schwabe, Thompson
9-Man Coach of the Year: Steve Kleinjan, New Salem-Glen Ullin

Saturday, October 15th
G1: R1 #3 Richland (5-3) @ R3 #3 Linton-HMB (5-3) by 30 points
G2: R1#4 Hatton-Northwood (4-4) @ R2 #2 Cavalier (7-1) by 50 points
G3: R3 #4 Kidder County (5-3) @ R2 #3 New Rockford-Sheyenne (5-3) by 40 points
G4: R2 #4 North Border (3-5) @ R1 #2 Wyndmere-Lidgerwood (6-2) by 35 points

G5: R6 #3 Divide County (5-3) @ R5 #3 Hettinger-Scranton (6-2) by 12 points
This will be the only game that will be close. All of the other games will be blowouts.
G6: R4 #4 Drake-Anamoose (4-4) @ R6 #2 Kenmare-Bowbells (6-2) by 40 points
G7: R6 #4 Tioga (4-4) @ R4 #3 TGU (5-3) by 35 points
G8: R5 #4 Bowman County (4-4) @ R4 #2 St. John (6-2) by 25 points

Saturday, October 22nd
G9: Winner G1 @ R2 #1 Thompson (8-0)
G10: Winner G2 @ R3 #2 Napoleon/Gackle-Streeter (7-1)
G11: Winner G3 @ R1 #1 Hankinson (7-1)
G12: Winner G4 @ R3 #1 Shiloh Christian (8-0)

G13: Winner G5 @ R4 #1 North Prairie (8-0)
G14: Winner G6 @ R5 #2 Richardton-Taylor-Hebron (6-2)
G15: Winner G7 @ R5 #1 New Salem-Glen Ullin (7-1)
G16: Winner G8 @ R6 #1 Mohall-Lansford-Sherwood (7-1)

Saturday, October 29th
G17: TBD
G18: TBD
G19: TBD
G20: TBD

Saturday, November 5th
G21: TBD
G22: TBD

Friday, November 11th
Championship: Winner G21 vs. Winner G22

G1: R1 #3 Richland (5-3) @ R3 #3 Linton-HMB (5-3) 36-16
G2: R1#4 Hatton-Northwood (4-4) @ R2 #2 Cavalier (7-1) 38-14
G3: R3 #4 Kidder County (5-3) @ R2 #3 New Rockford-Sheyenne (5-3) 28-6
G4: R2 #4 North Border (3-5) @ R1 #2 Wyndmere-Lidgerwood (6-2) 50-6

G5: R6 #3 Divide County (5-3) @ R5 #3 Hettinger-Scranton (6-2) 48-8
G6: R4 #4 Drake-Anamoose (4-4) @ R6 #2 Kenmare-Bowbells (6-2) 26-20
G7: R6 #4 Tioga (4-4) @ R4 #3 TGU (5-3) 40-8
G8: R5 #4 Bowman County (4-4) @ R4 #2 St. John (6-2) 42-22

Richland 42-30
Cavalier 56-24
NRS 32-20
Wyndmere 50-6
Divide County 48-44
Kenmare 54-14
TGU 46-12
St John 60-8

Saturday, October 15th
G1: R1 #3 Richland (5-3) @ R3 #3 Linton-HMB (5-3) by 10
G2: R1#4 Hatton-Northwood (4-4) @ R2 #2 Cavalier (7-1) by 40
G3: R3 #4 Kidder County (5-3) @ R2 #3 New Rockford-Sheyenne (5-3) by 20
G4: R2 #4 North Border (3-5) @ R1 #2 Wyndmere-Lidgerwood (6-2)
by 40
G5: R6 #3 Divide County (5-3) @ R5 #3 Hettinger-Scranton (6-2) by 12
G6: R4 #4 Drake-Anamoose (4-4) @ R6 #2 Kenmare-Bowbells (6-2)
by 40
G7: R6 #4 Tioga (4-4) @ R4 #3 TGU (5-3) by 32
G8: R5 #4 Bowman County (4-4) @ R4 #2 St. John (6-2) by 28

I'm expecting 6 of the 8 games to be blowouts with Cavalier, NRS, WL, KB, TGU and SJ winning.
In the other two games I'll take L-HMB by 6 and HS by 12.
I don't know much about either Richland or LHMB so that's just a guess and Hettinger-Scranton has so many injuries I think that's the only reason that game ends up being close.

I think everyone picked the winners correct and I will take linton to win in a close game. None of the other games will be within 20 points.

Team Statistical View of EACH Matchup

G1: R1 #3 Richland (5-3) @ R3 #3 Linton-HMB (5-3)
Richland: PF/G - 34.0; PA/G - 30.6
Linton-HMB: PF/G - 26.0; PA/G - 20.6

G2: R1#4 Hatton-Northwood (4-4) @ R2 #2 Cavalier (7-1)
Cavalier: PF/G - 43.8; PA/G - 16.1
Hatton-Northwood: PF/G - 28.5; PA/G - 25.4

G3: R3 #4 Kidder County (5-3) @ R2 #3 New Rockford-Sheyenne (5-3)
New Rockford-Sheyenne: PF/G - 34.5; PA/G - 27.3
Kidder County: PF/G - 30.5; PA/G - 19.5

G4: R2 #4 North Border (3-5) @ R1 #2 Wyndmere-Lidgerwood (6-2)
Wyndmere-Lidgerwood: PF/G - 44.0; PA/G - 17.8
North Border: PF/G - 28.5; PA/G - 35.1

G5: R6 #3 Divide County (5-3) @ R5 #3 Hettinger-Scranton (6-2)
Hettinger-Scranton: PF/G - 33.8; PA/G - 24.8
Divide County: PF/G - 42.3; PA/G - 30.0

G6: R4 #4 Drake-Anamoose (4-4) @ R6 #2 Kenmare-Bowbells (6-2)
Kenmare-Bowbells: PF/G - 51.0; PA/G - 26.5
Drake-Anamoose: PF/G - 22.3; PA/G - 24.8

G7: R6 #4 Tioga (4-4) @ R4 #3 TGU (5-3)
TGU: PF/G - 34.5; PA/G - 18.8
Tioga: PF/G - 28.5; PA/G - 35.0

G8: R5 #4 Bowman County (4-4) @ R4 #2 St. John (6-2)
St. John: PF/G - 46.0; PA/G - 19.9
Bowman County: PF/G - 24.5; PA/G - 23.3

Playoff picks

Linton-HMB 26-24
Cavalier 60-20
Kidder County 28-26
Wyndmere-Lidgerwood 52-0
Hettinger-Scranton 32-26
Kenmare-Bowbells 52-8
Towner-Granville-Upham 48-12
St. John 40-20

2nd Round

Thompson over Linton-HMB
Napoleon-G-S over Cavalier
Hankinson over Kidder County
Wyndmere-Lidgerwood over Shiloh Christian

North Prairie over Hettinger-Scranton
Kenmare-Bowbells over Richardson-Taylor-Hebron
New Salem over Towner-Granville-Upham
Mohall-Lansford-Sherwood over St. John

Quarterfinals

Thompson over Napoleon-G-S
Wyndmere-Lidgerwood over Hankinson
North Prairie over Kenmare-Bowbells
New Salem-GU over Mohall-Lansford-Sherwood

My final four

Thompson over Wyndmere-Lidgerwood
New Salem-GU over North Prairie

State Title Game

Thompson vs New Salem-GU

Thompson wins 36-12


Alot of people with disagree with me but I just don't think Shiloh has enough pieces to make a deep run in the playoffs.

Picks playoff week 1:

Game 1: Linton over Richland in a close game. Richland has a tough time stopping teams from scoring.
Game 2: Cavalier by 20
Game 3: Kidder Cty by 1 over NRS
Game 4: Wyndmere in a blowout
Game 5: Hettinger-Scranton by 2
Game 6: Kenmare by 26
Game 7: TGU by 18
Game 8: St. John by 4 over Bowman County

I could be wrong, but I see half the games as close contests this week.

Saturday, October 15th
G1: R1 #3 Richland @ R3 #3 Linton-HMB
G2: R1#4 Hatton-Northwood @ R2 #2 (4) Cavalier
G3: R3 #4 Kidder County @ R2 #3 New Rockford-Sheyenne
G4: R2 #4 North Border @ R1 #2 Wyndmere-Lidgerwood

G5: R6 #3 Divide County @ R5 #3 Hettinger-Scranton
G6: R4 #4 Drake-Anamoose @ R6 #2 Kenmare-Bowbells
G7: R6 #4 Tioga @ R4 #3 TGU
G8: R5 #4 Bowman County @ R4 #2 St. John

Several blowouts this week...Eastern half of bracket could have two close games (G1 & G3)...some intriguing matchups in the western half of bracket but home teams should prevail

UNDSiouxfan wrote:Picks playoff week 1:

Game 1: Linton over Richland in a close game. Richland has a tough time stopping teams from scoring.
Game 2: Cavalier by 20
Game 3: Kidder Cty by 1 over NRS
Game 4: Wyndmere in a blowout
Game 5: Hettinger-Scranton by 2
Game 6: Kenmare by 26
Game 7: TGU by 18
Game 8: St. John by 4 over Bowman County

I could be wrong, but I see half the games as close contests this week.

I think your right. Once you start mixing regions its not so easy to predict blowouts. Middle of the road teams in one region could be towards the top in another.

a lot of 7-1 teams....how do they determine which one plays first round?

It's off a yearly regional rotation which region get's a second round bye. All 1 seeds get a bye.

The Schwab wrote:It's off a yearly regional rotation which region get's a second round bye. All 1 seeds get a bye.

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winner-within wrote:

The Schwab wrote:It's off a yearly regional rotation which region get's a second round bye. All 1 seeds get a bye.

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The region champions get a first round bye. The runner-up in two pre-selected regions (one each the east and west sides of the bracket) gets the other two byes. The NDHSAA determines who gets the byes before the season starts. Last season, the Region 1 and 6 runners-up got a bye. This season, the Region 3 and 5 get a bye.

Personally, I don't like the pre-selected regions getting the bye. I like a point system to determine the bye for runner-up.

Why? So some of these teams will run the scores up more than they do already. Running scores up to 70-0 is a good thing? I guess it looks good on the stats sheet at the end of the year.

Bacon wrote:Why? So some of these teams will run the scores up more than they do already. Running scores up to 70-0 is a good thing? I guess it looks good on the stats sheet at the end of the year.

He wasn't meaning point system as score related. I'm assuming he was thinking a points system like Minnesota (QRF) or South Dakota use...some sort of formula set to rank.

South Dakota's seed points system is below:

* Seed points awarded based on opponent's win percentage (opponent's wins divided by opponent's number of games played)
Opp. Win Pct. Pts. for Win Pts. for Loss
.750 and above 50 39
.500 - .749 47 36
.250 - .499 44 33
.249 and below 41 30

South Dakota's system is pretty darn fair, I know they get bonus points for playing a team from a class higher (9 man B to 9 man A for example). Score has nothing to do with their formula. What I like best about it is you get the same amount of points for beating a poor team (under .250 and in your division) as you would for losing to a good team from up a division (.750+ and at least 1 classification higher).

It also makes it unique in that you don't have to play every team in your region, in fact I was looking on SDHSAA.com the other day (by the way, WAY better then our website) and there are some teams that don't even play a single team in their region for football.

I would suggest that NDHSAA look at the powerpoint formula as a way to seed all of our state stuff, but that would probably pass the district chairs meeting 14-2 and get voted down by the board as well.

I like Michigan's Playoff Point system. You get points for victories based on the opponents classification (A = 80, B = 64, C = 48, D = 32) with no points for a loss.

But no matter what, each game also has bonus points based on AdjOppW (Adjusted Opponent Wins - a win would be the Opponent Wins and a loss would be the Opponent Wins - 1) times a multiplier (1 for a loss and 8 for a win), then you would divide that by the number of opponent games to get a Bonus Point Average value. Add the point value to the BP Average to get Playoff Points for that game (losses would only get bonus points).

Take the Playoff Points from all the games played and divide it by the number of games played to get Total Playoff Points.

Here are a couple links for some examples:
http://www.mhsaa.com/Portals/0/Legend.html
http://www.mhsaa.com/schools/coldwater/ ... tball/2016 (scroll down to Playoff Points Worksheet)

caserace0710 wrote:I like Michigan's Playoff Point system. You get points for victories based on the opponents classification (A = 80, B = 64, C = 48, D = 32) with no points for a loss.

But no matter what, each game also has bonus points based on AdjOppW (Adjusted Opponent Wins - a win would be the Opponent Wins and a loss would be the Opponent Wins - 1) times a multiplier (1 for a loss and 8 for a win), then you would divide that by the number of opponent games to get a Bonus Point Average value. Add the point value to the BP Average to get Playoff Points for that game (losses would only get bonus points).

Take the Playoff Points from all the games played and divide it by the number of games played to get Total Playoff Points.

Here are a couple links for some examples:
http://www.mhsaa.com/Portals/0/Legend.html
http://www.mhsaa.com/schools/coldwater/ ... tball/2016 (scroll down to Playoff Points Worksheet)

I like it, a bit more complicated though. Pretty much any system would make sense that actually values who you play and how good they are.

The Schwab wrote:South Dakota's system is pretty darn fair, I know they get bonus points for playing a team from a class higher (9 man B to 9 man A for example). Score has nothing to do with their formula. What I like best about it is you get the same amount of points for beating a poor team (under .250 and in your division) as you would for losing to a good team from up a division (.750+ and at least 1 classification higher).

It also makes it unique in that you don't have to play every team in your region, in fact I was looking on SDHSAA.com the other day (by the way, WAY better then our website) and there are some teams that don't even play a single team in their region for football.

I would suggest that NDHSAA look at the powerpoint formula as a way to seed all of our state stuff, but that would probably pass the district chairs meeting 14-2 and get voted down by the board as well.

According to their handbook there is no bonus points for football...NDHSAA doesn't like change that seems to be for the better

Run4Fun2009 wrote:

The Schwab wrote:South Dakota's system is pretty darn fair, I know they get bonus points for playing a team from a class higher (9 man B to 9 man A for example). Score has nothing to do with their formula. What I like best about it is you get the same amount of points for beating a poor team (under .250 and in your division) as you would for losing to a good team from up a division (.750+ and at least 1 classification higher).

It also makes it unique in that you don't have to play every team in your region, in fact I was looking on SDHSAA.com the other day (by the way, WAY better then our website) and there are some teams that don't even play a single team in their region for football.

I would suggest that NDHSAA look at the powerpoint formula as a way to seed all of our state stuff, but that would probably pass the district chairs meeting 14-2 and get voted down by the board as well.

According to their handbook there is no bonus points for football...NDHSAA doesn't like change that seems to be for the better

Yes you are right, run. They now only do that for basketball.

Any games on radio today? Or web?

Bigbrew22 wrote:Any games on radio today? Or web?

http://www.myborderland.com/

Click on Live sports....Cavalier game 1080 AM

State Sport Home Away Game Time Time Zone Click to Watch/Listen
ND Other Boys Coaches Corner Coaches Corner 10/15/2016
10:00 AM Central
ND Football Boys Cavalier Tornadoes Hatton-Northwood Thunder 10/15/2016
1:15 PM Central

North Border game 95.7 FM or 100.1 FM

State Sport Home Away Game Time Time Zone Click to Watch/Listen
ND Football Boys Wyndmere-Lidgerwood Warbirds North Border Eagles 10/15/2016
1:30 PM Central