Playoff formats

[panthercub]

Does anybody know the playoff format for this year?

[Run4Fun2009]

Does anybody know the playoff format for this year?

Region 1 #1
Region 2 #4

Region 2 #2
Region 1 #3

Region 2 #1
Region 1 #4

Region 1#2
Region 2 #3

Region 3 #1
Region 4 #4

Region 4 #2
Region 3 #3

Region 4 #1
Region 3 #4

Region 3 #2
Region 4 #3

[panthercub]

I thought it was supposed to alternate?

[Run4Fun2009]

I thought it was supposed to alternate?

Found it here: http://www.ndhsaa.com/files/BULLETINSeptember12.pdf

[panthercub]

Thanks for the link. Don't you think it should alternate region matchups each year?

[woodchuck10]

Thanks for the link. Don't you think it should alternate region matchups each year?

Noo, good God that'd be dumb. Imagine one year Its region 1 vs region 4 and you got Divide County traveling to Richland.

[Flip]

Even if it was 2 vs 4 this year Hillsboro to DC would be a likely matchup.

[imperials]

It should Alternate, I would say after 1st round, the for quite a few years the east has had more quality teams and they beat each other out, I think if they played east vs west in 2nd round, the east would win most of the games

[Sleepy]

I am thinking their is a good chance Region 1 playoff positions could come down to tiebreakers. I am not sure about all the tiebreakers so I am going to throw a scenario out there. I think the first tiebreaker is head-to-head competition. But let's say that there is a 3 way tie in the region record, and each team is 1-1 against the other two (team A beat B, B beat C, C beat A). The next tiebreaker is total point differential within the games of the 3 teams that are tied? Lets say there is a tie between two of the teams in point differential (A is +2, B is +2, C is -4) .

So team A and B are still tied on the 2nd tiebreaker. What is the next tiebreaker? I read something about it is the total point differential within the Region (with a max of 17 points/game). Is that next or could it possibly be that team A comes out ahead because they beat team B in their head to head game?

[The Schwab]

As far as travel is concerned I don't know if it would work to play east vs west before the dome, which poor region 1 team would want to make the long long long trip up to crosby in week 2?

[Sportsrube]

I agree with no one from Region 1 wanting to travel to DC for the 2nd round, but man would that put even
more emphasis on being the #1 cede from your region. I don't necessarily like how the format is set up now but I think it is probably the lesser of the evils.(With travel being the huge evil in a lot of other scenarios)

[Wombat]

I like the idea of changing the regional match-ups. Class AA and AAA cross bracket- I remember traveling from Cavalier to Dickinson Trinity and DLB for 1st round playoff games when we were in AA. In other years we hosted Minot Ryan, Beulah, DLB, and Dickinson Trinity.

PROS:
It's exciting to travel across the state (Educational as well)
You get to play teams that you don't normally ever get a chance to play
There's even more incentive to get a #1 seed
You get a REAL home-field advantage

CONS:
It's expensive to travel that far
Possibility of kids missing school
It's difficult for parents/fans to travel that far
It's very difficult to find overnight lodgin in the Western part of the state right now.

[DCFan2]

I like the idea of changing the regional match-ups. Class AA and AAA cross bracket- I remember traveling from Cavalier to Dickinson Trinity and DLB for 1st round playoff games when we were in AA. In other years we hosted Minot Ryan, Beulah, DLB, and Dickinson Trinity.

PROS:
It's exciting to travel across the state (Educational as well)
You get to play teams that you don't normally ever get a chance to play
There's even more incentive to get a #1 seed
You get a REAL home-field advantage

CONS:
It's expensive to travel that far
Possibility of kids missing school
It's difficult for parents/fans to travel that far
It's very difficult to find overnight lodgin in the Western part of the state right now.

I think they should switch regions every year. Divide County has put on around 4000 miles in 2 years to away games and that is just for regular season games. I think playoff teams could do it also. DC had to deal with it. Everyone else can also. I agree with all the pros and we have dealt with all the cons. Playoff games are in afternoon so can get home no problem. Don't need to stay overnight.

[The Schwab]

And there are baseball teams in our state that travel far as well, divide county is not the only school that has to travel

[DCFan2]

And there are baseball teams in our state that travel far as well, divide county is not the only school that has to travel

Was talking about 9-man football not baseball.

[Hinsa]

I like the idea of changing the regional match-ups. Class AA and AAA cross bracket- I remember traveling from Cavalier to Dickinson Trinity and DLB for 1st round playoff games when we were in AA. In other years we hosted Minot Ryan, Beulah, DLB, and Dickinson Trinity.

PROS:
It's exciting to travel across the state (Educational as well)
You get to play teams that you don't normally ever get a chance to play
There's even more incentive to get a #1 seed
You get a REAL home-field advantage

CONS:
It's expensive to travel that far
Possibility of kids missing school
It's difficult for parents/fans to travel that far
It's very difficult to find overnight lodgin in the Western part of the state right now.

I think they should switch regions every year. Divide County has put on around 4000 miles in 2 years to away games and that is just for regular season games. I think playoff teams could do it also. DC had to deal with it. Everyone else can also. I agree with all the pros and we have dealt with all the cons. Playoff games are in afternoon so can get home no problem. Don't need to stay overnight.

It's not the getting home that's the problem. It's the getting there to play the game. What you are suggesting is that teams get up as early as 5 in the morning to ride 6+ hours on a bus to come stumbling out around noon to play a game at 2:00. I'm sure that team will be ready to play.

[DCFan2]

I like the idea of changing the regional match-ups. Class AA and AAA cross bracket- I remember traveling from Cavalier to Dickinson Trinity and DLB for 1st round playoff games when we were in AA. In other years we hosted Minot Ryan, Beulah, DLB, and Dickinson Trinity.

PROS:
It's exciting to travel across the state (Educational as well)
You get to play teams that you don't normally ever get a chance to play
There's even more incentive to get a #1 seed
You get a REAL home-field advantage

CONS:
It's expensive to travel that far
Possibility of kids missing school
It's difficult for parents/fans to travel that far
It's very difficult to find overnight lodgin in the Western part of the state right now.

I think they should switch regions every year. Divide County has put on around 4000 miles in 2 years to away games and that is just for regular season games. I think playoff teams could do it also. DC had to deal with it. Everyone else can also. I agree with all the pros and we have dealt with all the cons. Playoff games are in afternoon so can get home no problem. Don't need to stay overnight.

It's not the getting home that's the problem. It's the getting there to play the game. What you are suggesting is that teams get up as early as 5 in the morning to ride 6+ hours on a bus to come stumbling out around noon to play a game at 2:00. I'm sure that team will be ready to play.

That's why it's called Home field advantage!

[imperials]

A lot teams if they have to travel a long ways will leave on Friday and stay somewhere close

[The Schwab]

And there are baseball teams in our state that travel far as well, divide county is not the only school that has to travel

Was talking about 9-man football not baseball.

Well for the past two years we have had to hear about how divide county travels so far, they could have opted up and played 11 man, that would have cut down their travel a lot.

[DCFan2]

And there are baseball teams in our state that travel far as well, divide county is not the only school that has to travel

Was talking about 9-man football not baseball.

Well for the past two years we have had to hear about how divide county travels so far, they could have opted up and played 11 man, that would have cut down their travel a lot.

Probably would have opted up if we had been given that opportunity. But they changed regions on us about a week before they finalized the the 2 year program. We are now back in the north so you won't have to endure the pain of listening to travel talk anymore.

[packers21]

And there are baseball teams in our state that travel far as well, divide county is not the only school that has to travel

Was talking about 9-man football not baseball.

Well for the past two years we have had to hear about how divide county travels so far, they could have opted up and played 11 man, that would have cut down their travel a lot.

Probably would have opted up if we had been given that opportunity. But they changed regions on us about a week before they finalized the the 2 year program. We are now back in the north so you won't have to endure the pain of listening to travel talk anymore.

Thank the Lord!

[Run4Fun2009]

With my Predictions (only for discussionary purposes) for the remaining games in the season...this would be the potential playoff format:

R2 #4: Hillsboro-Central Valley (4-3; 5-3) @ R1 #1: Napoleon-Gackle-Streeter (8-1)
R1 #3: Wyndmere-Lidgerwood (7-2) @ R2 #2: Cavalier (6-1; 7-1)
R1 #4: South Border (7-2) @ R2 #1: New Rockford-Sheyenne (7-0; 8-0)
R2 #3: Lakota-Adams-Edmore (5-2; 6-2) @ R1 #2: LaMoure-LM (7-2)

** Richland @ LaMoure-LM (10/12) has HUGE playoff implications if both win tonight

R4 #4: Shiloh Christian (7-2) @ R3 #1: TGU (8-0)
R3 #3: Surrey (6-2) @ R4 #2: Central McLean (7-2)
R3 #4: St. John (5-3) @ R4 #1: Divide County (9-0)
R4 #3: Beach (7-2) @ R3 #2: North Star (7-1)

[Hinsa]

A lot teams if they have to travel a long ways will leave on Friday and stay somewhere close

Yup, I understand that. I was responding to DC's contention that staying overnight is not necessary - showing the scenario if you DON'T stay overnight.