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[footballmaniac]

AREA PREP FEATURE: North Border football makes 9-man playoffs two years running
Success in the North Border football program came down to taking things personally. Jeff Carpenter was concerned a season ago that his program was slipping into mediocrity. After going 1-8 in the 2009 season, North Border opened 2010 by losing four straight games. But the turnaround was sudden.
By: Greg DeVillers, Grand Forks Herald


Success in the North Border football program came down to taking things personally.

Jeff Carpenter was concerned a season ago that his program was slipping into mediocrity. After going 1-8 in the 2009 season, North Border opened 2010 by losing four straight games.

But the turnaround was sudden. North Border went 7-1 to close last season, finishing with a 7-5 mark. This season the Eagles are off to a 7-1 start, the lone loss a narrow 20-14 margin to unbeaten Cavalier. North Border has clinched a second consecutive berth in the North Dakota 9-man state playoffs.

At the start of last season, “I think everybody was looking at each other and wondering what we had to do to get a win,” running back-linebacker Garret Fraser said. “The coaches could only tell us so much; they couldn’t go out on the field and do things for us. Finally, Mr. Carpenter told us to buy in or buy out to the program.

“After that, practices got a lot more intense. We started riding each other — make the plays now in practice so we wouldn’t be messing things up on Friday nights. We knew losing wasn’t a good feeling. We all got sick of it. And when we finally started winning, we wanted to work harder.”

Losing is an attitude, Fraser said. So is winning. Carpenter had to find a way to develop the latter. He saw ability last season in a roster dominated by non-seniors. Practices didn’t change from when the team was going 1-12. Neither did offensive and defensive game plans.

But intangibles did change.

“This is the least I’ve ever had to deal with a team as far as leadership,” said Carpenter, who is in his 28th season as a head high school football coach. “Last year, these kids figured it out. Their season would only be as good as they made it.

“Kids like Garret, Alek (Berg) and Brett (Schurman), those are great leaders. They’ve set an example to a point where other kids feel like they have to follow.”

Grinding it out

Carpenter has been flexible and willing to adapt his team’s style to the personnel.

For several seasons, the Eagles relied heavily on the passing game. Year in and year out, quarterbacks like Brock Setness, Tanner Carpenter and Richard Dalzell were throwing for more than 1,000 yards.

Now, however, the Eagles run a double wing and grind out yardage.

“We’re pretty basic,” Fraser said. “Everybody knows what we’re going to do. We like to run it at people. We’re not real big. But if our linemen can give us a little gap, we feel we can explode through it.”

The offense has balance. Through the first seven games, Berg paces the rushing game with 514 yards, followed by Fraser (418), Beau Brown (382) and quarterback Tyler Stockton (333). Stockton has completed 20 of 50 passes for 606 yards.

“Running is a better fit for us,” Carpenter said. “Garret, Beau and Alek are all effective runners. They can hit teams with both speed and power. And our running game helps our passing game.

“Tyler is an efficient passer. Next year, we could change our style again. We lose our backs, but we’ll have our quarterback and our receivers all coming back.”

In the meantime, the Eagles are appreciating winning.

“I don’t think I pictured a turnaround this great,” Fraser said. “It’s not something you look for. We were just hoping for a win here or there. You can’t imagine this kind of turnaround.

“You have to pinch yourself sometimes to believe it’s really happened.”

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[justplayalready]

They were 0-4 against some good teams...Lost Cavalier, who went deep in 11A last year, North Star, Stephen Argyle, who wins a few games in MN, and one region loss, maybe Hillsboro???

This team should go deep this year, possibly to the final.

[Flip]

Hillsboro wasn't in their region and SA was OK, but not dominant like they have been.

edit: SA was better than I thought last year (8-2)

[Run4Fun2009]

Another underestimated 9-man team would be Shiloh Christian out in Region 4. They have never had a season where they've won more than 3 games...this year they are 5-3 and on the verge of making the postseason. Pretty good since they only have about 15 kids out this year.

[justplayalready]

Hillsboro wasn't in their region and SA was OK, but not dominant like they have been.

edit: SA was better than I thought last year (8-2)

I was wrong, they lost to Thompson in game #4...

[bballfan7]

North Border is a solid team but they will have a tough matchup playing lamoure first round then Wyndmere or Napoleon game 2. I dont see them winning in the 2nd round. Cavalier will have their hands full with South Border in the first round too. South Border is a dangerous 4 seed.

[lovwatchingsports]

North Border is a solid team but they will have a tough matchup playing lamoure first round then Wyndmere or Napoleon game 2. I dont see them winning in the 2nd round. Cavalier will have their hands full with South Border in the first round too. South Border is a dangerous 4 seed.

I would say that the #4 seeds are going to be better than the past with the new regions. Might be some blow outs but you might be seeing more so called upsets.

[Flip]

North Border is a solid team but they will have a tough matchup playing lamoure first round then Wyndmere or Napoleon game 2. I dont see them winning in the 2nd round. Cavalier will have their hands full with South Border in the first round too. South Border is a dangerous 4 seed.

There will be some really good teams eliminated by the 2nd round, considering the 2nd round is now the quarterfinals.

[justplayalready]

North Border is a solid team but they will have a tough matchup playing lamoure first round then Wyndmere or Napoleon game 2. I dont see them winning in the 2nd round. Cavalier will have their hands full with South Border in the first round too. South Border is a dangerous 4 seed.

I would say that the #4 seeds are going to be better than the past with the new regions. Might be some blow outs but you might be seeing more so called upsets.

I think that may be true in the east...The west #4's will be pretty weak. I also think the Region 2's 3 and 4 will give R1's top two good games...

N Border needs to win Friday as 2-4 seeds are up in the air, with NB, NRS, Hillsboro and LAE still in the mix.

[theworldismine1999]

North Border is a solid team but they will have a tough matchup playing lamoure first round then Wyndmere or Napoleon game 2. I dont see them winning in the 2nd round. Cavalier will have their hands full with South Border in the first round too. South Border is a dangerous 4 seed.

If they even get to the second round

[The Schwab]

Another underestimated 9-man team would be Shiloh Christian out in Region 4. They have never had a season where they've won more than 3 games...this year they are 5-3 and on the verge of making the postseason. Pretty good since they only have about 15 kids out this year.

I would say both of the teams playing in Bismarck this friday night (Shiloh Christian and Hettinger/Scranton) could both be considered underestimated. One of these teams will be making the playoffs this year and neither were givin much chance at the begining of the year (The injury to Hardy from Beach opened up that last playoff spot.)

[EHS1998]

With all due respect to Shiloh Christian, if they didnt change Regions this year, they would probably not be on the verge of making the playoffs. I can name 4 teams NOT making the playoffs in Region 1 who would probably beat them (EK,SC,Richland,Hankinson). Congrats on a good season but the best thing that happened to them was getting moved out of Region 1.

[theman60]

With all due respect to Shiloh Christian, if they didnt change Regions this year, they would probably not be on the verge of making the playoffs. I can name 4 teams NOT making the playoffs in Region 1 who would probably beat them (EK,SC,Richland,Hankinson). Congrats on a good season but the best thing that happened to them was getting moved out of Region 1.

Amen!

[AC-DC]

Another underestimated 9-man team would be Shiloh Christian out in Region 4. They have never had a season where they've won more than 3 games...this year they are 5-3 and on the verge of making the postseason. Pretty good since they only have about 15 kids out this year.

I would say both of the teams playing in Bismarck this friday night (Shiloh Christian and Hettinger/Scranton) could both be considered underestimated. One of these teams will be making the playoffs this year and neither were givin much chance at the begining of the year (The injury to Hardy from Beach opened up that last playoff spot.)

... and will get blown-out in round 1.

[Run4Fun2009]

Another underestimated 9-man team would be Shiloh Christian out in Region 4. They have never had a season where they've won more than 3 games...this year they are 5-3 and on the verge of making the postseason. Pretty good since they only have about 15 kids out this year.

I would say both of the teams playing in Bismarck this friday night (Shiloh Christian and Hettinger/Scranton) could both be considered underestimated. One of these teams will be making the playoffs this year and neither were givin much chance at the begining of the year (The injury to Hardy from Beach opened up that last playoff spot.)

... and will get blown-out in round 1.

Doesn't matter...making the playoffs is a big deal...especially for a program that usually isn't very good.

[DCFan]

Another underestimated 9-man team would be Shiloh Christian out in Region 4. They have never had a season where they've won more than 3 games...this year they are 5-3 and on the verge of making the postseason. Pretty good since they only have about 15 kids out this year.

I would say both of the teams playing in Bismarck this friday night (Shiloh Christian and Hettinger/Scranton) could both be considered underestimated. One of these teams will be making the playoffs this year and neither were givin much chance at the begining of the year (The injury to Hardy from Beach opened up that last playoff spot.)

... and will get blown-out in round 1.

Doesn't matter...making the playoffs is a big deal...especially for a program that usually isn't very good.

I agree playoffs are a big deal and having a do or die game on the last day of the season will bring a playoff atmosphere to this game. Biggest game of the year for both teams. Good Luck!

[EHS1998]

Agreed. It's great for the program. Good for them!

[The Schwab]

Another underestimated 9-man team would be Shiloh Christian out in Region 4. They have never had a season where they've won more than 3 games...this year they are 5-3 and on the verge of making the postseason. Pretty good since they only have about 15 kids out this year.

I would say both of the teams playing in Bismarck this friday night (Shiloh Christian and Hettinger/Scranton) could both be considered underestimated. One of these teams will be making the playoffs this year and neither were givin much chance at the begining of the year (The injury to Hardy from Beach opened up that last playoff spot.)

... and will get blown-out in round 1.

Not sure if that was really called for or not. Kind of a low blow if you ask me

[lovwatchingsports]

Another underestimated 9-man team would be Shiloh Christian out in Region 4. They have never had a season where they've won more than 3 games...this year they are 5-3 and on the verge of making the postseason. Pretty good since they only have about 15 kids out this year.

I would say both of the teams playing in Bismarck this friday night (Shiloh Christian and Hettinger/Scranton) could both be considered underestimated. One of these teams will be making the playoffs this year and neither were givin much chance at the begining of the year (The injury to Hardy from Beach opened up that last playoff spot.)

... and will get blown-out in round 1.

Not sure if that was really called for or not. Kind of a low blow if you ask me

some people need to run other teams down to make them feel better about their team or region or themselves i guess.

[EHS1998]

I dont think (or at least I hope they arent) people are trying to run others down, but I can see some teams who arent going to make the playoffs in one region be frustrated that teams who they are clearly better than are just because they play in a less competitive Region. Who wouldnt that frustrate? Now that doesnt mean we need to take away from them, but I also dont think you can ignore the obvious.

[lovwatchingsports]

I dont think (or at least I hope they arent) people are trying to run others down, but I can see some teams who arent going to make the playoffs in one region be frustrated that teams who they are clearly better than are just because they play in a less competitive Region. Who wouldnt that frustrate? Now that doesnt mean we need to take away from them, but I also dont think you can ignore the obvious.

Maybe, but nobody in region 1 has played anybody in region 4 and won't. so we really do not know, as was stated before they got a break by beach losing a kid and maybe they got better ever think of that? Let them have their day without running them into the ground. Yes you can state that they didn't do well in the past without the rest.

[EHS1998]

I am not running them into the ground. I congratulate them on their success and wish them the best of luck tomorrow night. Stop trying to victimize them.

[The Schwab]

I understand EHS that you have probably seen Shiloh play more than I have the past few years, but from what I have gathered about them this year is that they are dramatically improved and their coach has that program going in the right direction. I am not arguing the fact that Region 1 is very good top to bottom, but I believe that Shiloh would play with just about every team in that region (except for the top 3). Just my two cents, lord knows I'm more of a basketball guy anyways

[EHS1998]

I understand EHS that you have probably seen Shiloh play more than I have the past few years, but from what I have gathered about them this year is that they are dramatically improved and their coach has that program going in the right direction. I am not arguing the fact that Region 1 is very good top to bottom, but I believe that Shiloh would play with just about every team in that region (except for the top 3). Just my two cents, lord knows I'm more of a basketball guy anyways

Schwab - Always great to hear from you. I was basing my statement on the teams I have seen play in Region 1 this year and what I knew of Shiloh returning. If Shiloh could play with them now, great. I love seeing programs move in the right direction. Being a Bismarck based private school should have significant inherent advantages that hopefully they can leverage going forward.

[nordstde]

Maybe the pollsters can find a way to scribble Divide County into the Top 5 after tonight. It really doesn't matter though, the polls are a joke. And they are used to being overlooked almost every year. Divide County is the defenition of UNDERESTIMATED this year.